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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: TzarChasm
Not trolling just pointing out science doesn't make claims about God and a theist can use it the same way an atheist would to make claims.
The truth of the matter is if you have asked for proof from a theist from a god claim (that isn't purely design based) your accepting a metaphysical debate and you can very well loose( by some one like William Lane Craig who is a master at catching your logical mistakes, especially if you get flustered by what I consider nonsense). Metaphysics is a gentleman's debate. There are no clear winners just falacy. Science doesn't always hold up because of the nature of metaphysics. That doesn't make science superior from a mental or social standpoint.
Morality ultimately comes from either authority or the social contract.
I pick the social contract.
originally posted by: coomba98
Seems some people need a rehash on this thead and the definitions of words such as:
Theist
Atheist
Gnostic
Agnostic
People should understand the true meaning of these words.
Coomba98
originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: TzarChasm
I'm not sure it's weird, I think it is the mind set of many who post here, that there is simply "one God". Thats a shame, it would be like eating a single meal over and over, or listenting to one song, never experiencing new tastes or sounds
originally posted by: Aedaeum
a reply to: TzarChasm
There is only one Father, whom has been perverted throughout history. I presume the one currently known as "Satan" or "Lucifer" tried to instantiate himself and his demons as Gods at some point, which is where the pantheon comes from. That information is lost in antiquity though.