The South is Burning, Who Cares?

a reply to: JakeR777
Please still go!!!
I'm going to copy my entry from another thread...

originally posted by: Martin75
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We are thankful for a new day in the Smokies. The wildfires are out, and Gatlinburg & Pigeon Forge were spared. While surrounding neighborhoods suffered significant damage, our prayers were answered, and the rain has extinguished the fires. Fires consumed about 15,000 acres locally, accounting for about 4% of our total land area.

Our mountains will quickly recover, but many of our area’s residents lost their homes and livelihoods. We have many guests asking how they can help. We need your support more than ever. Show the Smokies how much you care this fall. Make a donation to help our residents in need and get 50% OFF our nightly rates excluding holidays.

Pigeon Forge is currently open for business and Gatlinburg hopes to be accessible and operational by the end of this week. Our area needs your support! Our mountains are still beautiful!

Some Suggested Local Charities where contributions are needed:
Pathways Church Sevierville - 100% of money goes directly to displaced families. Choose "give without setting up an account" then choose "Sevierville Campus" and a special fund for the fire relief will appear. Church has connections with principals of schools whose students have lost their homes.

Sevier County Food Ministries

Pets Without Parents - Caring for displaced pets until owners can bring them home.

Smoky Mountain Area Rescue Ministry

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originally posted by: schuyler
It's not that nobody cares. It's just that our hoses don't reach that far. Where was the South when California burned? How about Eastern Washington last year? Oh, you didn't hear about that, right?

I heard all about it while it was happening actually. There were fires all over the West Coast and their bordering states. This has been going on for 3 weeks and I just heard about it yesterday.

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Fair enough.

I was driving a semi OTR at the time. I knew New Orleans and Biloxi both. Biloxi was a thriving metropolis built on a middle class; New Orleans was a ghetto masquerading as a city with no middle class. The French Quarter and tourist spots were shining little orbs of extravagance owned and operated by wealthy folk surrounded by miles upon miles of pure poverty. Any middle-class structure needed to keep tourism alive was imported from suburbs far removed from New Orleans.

And we see which was stronger. Biloxi is back bigger and better than before. New Orleans is still trying to rebuild.

Successful, strong people are not what the media wants to portray. They want to show helplessness and despair, not hope and self-reliance. The latter empowers only people, but the former empowers big government, oligarchy, and royalty.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Fair enough.

I was driving a semi OTR at the time. I knew New Orleans and Biloxi both. Biloxi was a thriving metropolis built on a middle class; New Orleans was a ghetto masquerading as a city with no middle class. The French Quarter and tourist spots were shining little orbs of extravagance owned and operated by wealthy folk surrounded by miles upon miles of pure poverty. Any middle-class structure needed to keep tourism alive was imported from suburbs far removed from New Orleans.

And we see which was stronger. Biloxi is back bigger and better than before. New Orleans is still trying to rebuild.

Successful, strong people are not what the media wants to portray. They want to show helplessness and despair, not hope and self-reliance. The latter empowers only people, but the former empowers big government, oligarchy, and royalty.

TheRedneck

So true... Crime skyrocketed up here in NW Louisiana when we were nice enough to take in New Orleans refugees.

a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

I did see a vid o skynews yesterday which looked pretty bad. I'm in England, so we don't get wildfires, however what if this is arson? Someone or group started it? What if it's a group coming from Mexico who are angry about access to the USA or angry about 'Trump' even? What if it's some type of terror attack? Meant to clear or kill people off from the area?

If it is just the heat causing it, then i hope the rain comes... well, for whatever reason, I hope the rains come.

Seriously, this has been on the national news every night, even the local news in Dallas. Why do people claim the media isn't covering this?

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: schuyler
It's not that nobody cares. It's just that our hoses don't reach that far. Where was the South when California burned? How about Eastern Washington last year? Oh, you didn't hear about that, right?

I heard all about it while it was happening actually. There were fires all over the West Coast and their bordering states. This has been going on for 3 weeks and I just heard about it yesterday.

That's funny. I heard abut it three weeks ago.

a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

"The South is Burning, Who Cares?"

Obama Talks With Tennessee Governor About Fires

President Barack Obama has spoken with Tennessee's governor to offer support for residents gravely affected by recent wildfires in the Great Smoky Mountains.

A statement from the White House says Obama asked Republican Gov. Bill Haslam for an update on the ongoing response to the wildfires, which destroyed hundreds of buildings and killed seven.

The White House says Obama expressed his condolences for the lives lost in the fire. He also offered his sympathies to those residents who may have lost their homes or business.

Obama also committed to providing the assistance necessary to combat this fire. The White House says FEMA approved a grant earlier this week to help mobilize the resources necessary for an effective response.

abcnews.go.com...

a reply to: LSU0408

Crime skyrocketed up here in NW Louisiana when we were nice enough to take in New Orleans refugees.

I don't doubt it for an instant.

These aren't 'bad people.' They're victims. Victims of the life they have been forced to live thanks to their 'overlords.' They have learned through experience not to consider others, not to expect success, and there is no profit in hard work. That makes them extremely dependant on those who control the social infrastructure, and therefore easy to control.

Compare that with those who have learned cooperation, honesty, and diligence. Such people are impossible to control, because they are able to organize and survive... even thrive... independently. The MSM works in close conjunction with the established government (the real lesson from the 2016 elections) and the sole purpose of government in any form is to control the population.

So it's no real surprise that disasters in highly dependent areas recieved massive MSM coverage, while disasters in independent areas receive minimal coverage. Who cares what happens to those who could oppose the establishment?

TheRedneck

originally posted by: JakeR777
It sucks Gatlinburg is gone my mom was planning a vacation for us to visit there so she's really sad she hasn't been there sense she was like a senior in highschool so she really wanted to go I feel bad for all those people

I tried reading all of this thread; didn't catch it-Do they know/have an idea of how the fire started? And there have been 7 deaths?? If this is arson the perp better be charged with murder

Yeah, that was the best place ever when I was a kid. Even better than Estes Park.

I just watched a video a guy from there lost a lot, but he said its not all gone: to get that message out.

Good I'm glad it's not 100% ashes that will make it a little easier for everyone to come together and rebuild the community. It will unfortunately lose some of the historical significance to it but at the same time this will add to its history and be inspiring to see how the people come together.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Yep , agreed that idiots know no limits to their origins. It is important to note that same town of Chattanooga, that this arsonist arrested a few weeks back came from is the same town that had a crazy Islmo-nazi hater of all things free killing the military recruiters. Something may be in the water there... oh yeah it is slightly radioactive water in the Tennessee river there. Down stream from Oak Ridge will do that for you.

originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

I did see a vid o skynews yesterday which looked pretty bad. I'm in England, so we don't get wildfires, however what if this is arson? Someone or group started it? What if it's a group coming from Mexico who are angry about access to the USA or angry about 'Trump' even? What if it's some type of terror attack? Meant to clear or kill people off from the area?

If it is just the heat causing it, then i hope the rain comes... well, for whatever reason, I hope the rains come.

Can i get an AMEN?

It might be arson is all we have now.

There were some people witnessing trees hit power poles and start fires too. One of those guys in the vid's describing a tree falling next to his house also said they had a suspect but i can't prove it at the moment. I did post a link on page 5 to a guy who was arrested three weeks ago lighting fires in the Smoky's.

Actually it wasnt covered until after damage was done. People was watching the news while being engulfed in flames. Gatlinburg is a tourist area therefore most people look for CNN, Fox, etc.

There was/is barely phone service so it's critcal in mountain areas to warn people through TV before phone, as phones don't pick up (hence why police asked us to turn phones off to try and form stronger signals for national guard )

Actually, more people pass through Smokey Mountain national park than any other in America. A city of around 30000 population deal with millions at a time. On 20 mile stretch, 10+ hours of traffic. It's a fairly big deal.

There ARE endangered species, such as wolves, elk, buffalo to name bigger ones..to small insects to types of salamanders. For years park rangers have slowly brought these endangered species back into mountains to help accelerate their production.

People are hiking, camping, deep in the most known trail that stretches along the East Coast, The Appalachian trail who were literally stuck in the events with no way to get to safety as up to 90 mph winds swept fire in everywhich direction.

Gatlinburg has been featured in such songs as "A boy named Sue" by Jonny Cash. It's home to little girl in Modern Family and some of favorite destinations for many celebrities such as Ludacris and others.

There are stores that have been untouched for over 100 years. One only cities left that detail and show our history as Americans.

Revolutionaries at large, one first to end prohibition and enable our right to produce and manufacturer whiskey/moonshine. Years of fighting the system over stupid laws. Years of loosing land and being wrongfully imprisoned by libral radical influences.

One of the prettiest, cleanest, almost heavenly place in America and this isn't just my opinion but the annual 15 million who come here every year.

Sadly, it's unconcerned libral cry babies who rather discuss a week long loss than multiple crimes committed by their campaign who don't care, as it was probably one who got a permit and was told not to start a fire and did it anyway.

Luckily we don't need a useless ass FBI to sweep us under the rug like pizzagate or other concerns of people, but our own TBI, who will bring us justice and bring that dumbass selfish yank back to learn proper fire safety and imprisonment.


I am a residential and is deeply pissed not only some of most ignorant comments here but others such as "Lol @ homes lossed. what you get trump supporters". Yknow, cry and bitch and call us racist, call us bigots, call us trash, and call for Civil War? How would you fare without knowledge of weapons you try to ban? What about your loss of touch to survival or living off the land? South has always strived to be low funded, self sufficient machine. We don't have influx of gangs, but patriotism. We tea party and try to keep America what it was born to be. Republic of United States.

Volunteer State is a name that wasn't given easy. Our national guard is some strongest warriors on the planet who without second thought give help to not only Tennesseans but other statesmen and for our nation. From helping divide the confederate armies to helping our brother's in Texas. We have manners and try to preserve chivalry. We strive to be "good ole boys" who share not a city, but a community. It's about time people get a wake up call.

From MY personal experiences... south being so racist there's VERY LOW hate crimes and hardly any big crimes at all. No lives lost to cry baby loss..or football game. Yet in north and in west it's white people crimes. Getting mugged for color, or wearing a color. I trust a black Tennessean before a new Yorker or so co black and they feel the same. You stop your racism, ours ended.

originally posted by: Shr00mz

From MY personal experiences... south being so racist there's VERY LOW hate crimes and hardly any big crimes at all. No lives lost to cry baby loss..or football game. Yet in north and in west it's white people crimes. Getting mugged for color, or wearing a color. I trust a black Tennessean before a new Yorker or so co black and they feel the same. You stop your racism, ours ended.

I agree with this statement 100%. I could not say it better. People here in TN actually care about their neighbors. We see character 1st around here. A whole lot less haters than the media would ever allow people to imagine 'cause it doesn't fit the narrative and MOST people know it.

I am thankful and sad about this. I have a friend who lost his home in this but not his life. I have family that were on the safe side of the Mtn ridge who were visiting other family who were in town for thanksgiving and just did make it out safe just before the flare up.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Shr00mz

From MY personal experiences... south being so racist there's VERY LOW hate crimes and hardly any big crimes at all. No lives lost to cry baby loss..or football game. Yet in north and in west it's white people crimes. Getting mugged for color, or wearing a color. I trust a black Tennessean before a new Yorker or so co black and they feel the same. You stop your racism, ours ended.

I agree with this statement 100%. I could not say it better. People here in TN actually care about their neighbors. We see character 1st around here. A whole lot less haters than the media would ever allow people to imagine 'cause it doesn't fit the narrative and MOST people know it.

I am thankful and sad about this. I have a friend who lost his home in this but not his life. I have family that were on the safe side of the Mtn ridge who were visiting other family who were in town for thanksgiving and just did make it out safe just before the flare up.

I am sorry and thank you for helping to speak out.

It's a shame to view not just Tennessee, but South as whole as some abomination to this country when all we do is try.

Joke and say poorly educated, yet likes of people like Dolly Parton spends millions to send monthly children's books to not just kids in need but any kid. Who is first to step forward and demand equal opportunity college and even went as far as providing two free years. By a Republican, mind you.

Bash south for being so republican it's disgusting. Republican party has been devided. Republicans not just here, but everywhere are changing its party from the inside out. Who see likes of Regan (Bush Sr), Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Clinton cycle being same cycle. Why in south we've pushed for tea parties, to end taxation without representation, who voted for Ron Paul, Donald Trump, Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, and would have listened to Democratic elects like Bernie Sanders. Problem is that one side is trying to better themselves and rest of nation and other half is scared to loose their greedy pockets. Force our state's taxes to rise to help bailout other states.

Do you want change? Or do you want what we are supposed to be. A nation of people who control it's government, who have hospitality, who truely live their life by three simple principles. Faith. Hope. Charity.

As one side, our old republican formers cursed us with this bigotry, rascim, and fascism. Now the ball is in the other court and it's ugly. Very ugly indeed.

I hope not to offend those who are northern or western, libral or non, but by majority you are putting us in corners. I've been to both regions.. those who call me homophobic redneck, called me a queer or fag when held door open for them.. made fun of my Irish heritaged 'southern accent' when we was forced into these mountains and forced to be some poorest in nation. When we made something of it you tried to conquer it. Still to this day we dont get special treatment for what my ancestors went through, nor care too. Slaving to build union train tracks, forced to live poorly by north who seen us equal to likes of blacks and Indians who were also called "white 'n-word's". Signs posted "no blacks no irish".

just really time people look into south, shut up, and learn a thing or two before we're all dead. We all see what Hollywood and their progressive views have gotten us. Increased child pregnacy, raunchy social staus appeal for women, and influx of rudeness, racism, socialism, ban free ourselves basic principle of self preservation and means of defending it, mind numbing bias TV, forced to loose a $10 hour job to $5 illegal... Now it's time to hear us.

#2017 is near

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Shr00mz

From MY personal experiences... south being so racist there's VERY LOW hate crimes and hardly any big crimes at all. No lives lost to cry baby loss..or football game. Yet in north and in west it's white people crimes. Getting mugged for color, or wearing a color. I trust a black Tennessean before a new Yorker or so co black and they feel the same. You stop your racism, ours ended.

I agree with this statement 100%. I could not say it better. People here in TN actually care about their neighbors. We see character 1st around here. A whole lot less haters than the media would ever allow people to imagine 'cause it doesn't fit the narrative and MOST people know it.

I am thankful and sad about this. I have a friend who lost his home in this but not his life. I have family that were on the safe side of the Mtn ridge who were visiting other family who were in town for thanksgiving and just did make it out safe just before the flare up.

I am sorry and thank you for helping to speak out.

It's a shame to view not just Tennessee, but South as whole as some abomination to this country when all we do is try.

Joke and say poorly educated, yet likes of people like Dolly Parton spends millions to send monthly children's books to not just kids in need but any kid. Who is first to step forward and demand equal opportunity college and even went as far as providing two free years. By a Republican, mind you.

Bash south for being so republican it's disgusting. Republican party has been devided. Republicans not just here, but everywhere are changing its party from the inside out. Who see likes of Regan (Bush Sr), Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Clinton cycle being same cycle. Why in south we've pushed for tea parties, to end taxation without representation, who voted for Ron Paul, Donald Trump, Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, and would have listened to Democratic elects like Bernie Sanders. Problem is that one side is trying to better themselves and rest of nation and other half is scared to loose their greedy pockets. Force our state's taxes to rise to help bailout other states.

Do you want change? Or do you want what we are supposed to be. A nation of people who control it's government, who have hospitality, who truely live their life by three simple principles. Faith. Hope. Charity.

As one side, our old republican formers cursed us with this bigotry, rascim, and fascism. Now the ball is in the other court and it's ugly. Very ugly indeed.

I hope not to offend those who are northern or western, libral or non, but by majority you are putting us in corners. I've been to both regions.. those who call me homophobic redneck, called me a queer or fag when held door open for them.. made fun of my Irish heritaged 'southern accent' when we was forced into these mountains and forced to be some poorest in nation. When we made something of it you tried to conquer it. Still to this day we dont get special treatment for what my ancestors went through, nor care too. Slaving to build union train tracks, forced to live poorly by north who seen us equal to likes of blacks and Indians who were also called "white 'n-word's". Signs posted "no blacks no irish".

just really time people look into south, shut up, and learn a thing or two before we're all dead. We all see what Hollywood and their progressive views have gotten us. Increased child pregnacy, raunchy social staus appeal for women, and influx of rudeness, racism, socialism, ban free ourselves basic principle of self preservation and means of defending it, mind numbing bias TV, forced to loose a $10 hour job to $5 illegal... Now it's time to hear us.

#2017 is near

a reply to: Justoneman

Something may be in the water there... oh yeah it is slightly radioactive water in the Tennessee river there. Down stream from Oak Ridge will do that for you.

Nah, I live downstream from Chattanooga. It's not the water.

It's something around that area, though. Chattanooga is definitely.... ummmm... shall we say "special"? I think there's a question about the use of turn signals on their drivers license tests, and the correct use is "they're for decoration."

It's a constant fight to keep whatever it is from crossing the state line...

TheRedneck

Googled keywords "Tennessee Wildfire", and got 7,880,000 results for within the past month after selecting the "past month" timeframe. If you really want to get picky about it and click the News tab, there's still 74,800 results under that one specifically.

Can't figure out how people think it's being under-reported or not reported at all. There's an inundation of news and there has been since before my last post about this in a different thread days ago.

a reply to: Nyiah

m.youtube.com...
or YouTube Gatlinburg Apocalypse (next news)

Its not that it didn't get reported, was how long it took. I live in the next town down (pigeon forge) and it was raining ash like snow. It wasn't a thing until damage was done. Media shows night pictures? day after? I walked out in late morning and thought it was our first snow of the year.

News didn't pick up until after evacuation, spur to light 8 pigeon forge(where I live) was under evacuation. Trust me, I'm watching it..until my power went out and we left to my father's. No one in this town is very tickled with news that day.

When 500+ acre fire is burning it don't take but 5 minutes and move on. When high speed car chase its a "this just in.."

AGAIN. There is VERY bad phone service. Emergency Management struggles to send warnings deep into forest of Gatlinburg. Lives of these people who had NO IDEA entire mountain was on fire they was on because nothing popped on warning them.

It wasn't just world or main big news... It was our own as well. If was home taking a nap or watching TV you didn't know. PERIOD END OF STORY.

WTF cares now? It's done... they're dead and our homes are lost. You don't need to beat it to death but ANY disaster big or small needs 5 minutes of fame WHEN it occours... Not way up into the night. Hell it was literally raining when Fox News started covering, CNN after... It was done... over... who cares now?

Look at headlines... "State of emergency, Gatlinburg evacuated 14000 people.." It's all paste tense. If people's lives are in danger no matter color, state, religious practice, ANYTHING should it be on the news rather than same political nonsense that's done with anyway.

This just in.. Gatlinburg has been on fire for half the day and small town somehow detained the fire from killing massive amounts of people while waited FOUR HOURS for a response from Washington. So far 100 houses lost!

I mean at that point it was like "ahh go f-ck yourself, It's over...at least contained..rain coming in now.. don't have FEMA yet but Knoxville and Jefferson Co have volunteers on the way...so..uhhh..."

Cops here really gained my respect. Small ass police trying to be in three areas at once, rushing from Gburg to Wears valley to Greenbrire.. if you live here it was a sight to see.