The Donald Trump - Mitt Romney Interaction Dynamic is Fascinating.

Tuesday, November 29, 2016

This dynamic between President-elect Donald Trump, and 2012 Presidential candidate Mitt Romney, is fascinating to me.

During his campaign for President, Donald Trump called Mitt Romney a "choker". He also said that Mitt Romney was ready to "take to his knees", in order to gain Donald Trump's endorsement, when Mitt was running for President in 2012.

At about this same time (March 2016), Mitt Romney held a special 15-minute televised press briefing, to clearly spell out why he felt that his fellow Republican, Presidential candidate Donald J. Trump, was a FRAUD, a FAKE, a DANGEROUS SCAM ARTIST...and other very personal insults.

Video of this press briefing: www.youtube.com...


Fast Forward to November 19, 2016:

Despite Mitt Romney's obvious disdain for Mr. Trump as a human being, he is now invited to interview for the important U.S. Secretary of State positon, by newly minted President-elect, Donald J. Trump.

A week after that interview, people within Trump's inner circle of his Presidential transition team (Kelly Anne Conway & Newt Gingrich) did something totally unprecedented. They hit the TV news circuits, on Thanksgiving weekend, to say that a large number of Trump supporters feel that Mitt Romney would be a horrible Secretary of State, due to his lack of loyalty, personal insults of Trump, and a big difference of opinion with Donald Trump, on foreign policy matters.

Now here we are, 3 days later, and Donald Trump is having Dinner with Mitt Romney at a restaurant in Trump Tower, New York City.
Story: www.cnn.com... (Doesn't Mitt look "annoyed" ?)

After the dinner tonight, Mitt Romney comes outside and declares that, "America's Best Days are Ahead of Us!"
Story: www.msn.com...


ATS COLLEAGUES:

Do you think that Donald Trump and Mitt Romney have "buried the hatchet" and are preparing for a serious, on the same page, working relationship, with Mitt Romney as Secretary of State?

Or, is Donald Trump perhaps stringing Mitt Romney along, getting his hopes up, before offering him a janitorial job..or none at all, in retaliation for that 15 minutes of nationally televised insults from Mitt Romney on March 3rd?

Any other theories???

-CareWeMust

edit on 11/30/2016 by carewemust because: format adjustment

a reply to: carewemust

For the life of me I can not see what position Romney could effectively do in Trumps cabinet....especially SoS.

What I find most strange is that Trump would show any respect to someone who insulted him like that, Trump doesn't seem like the type of guy who lets go of grudges easily. I knew he was never going to do things like prosecute Hillary, anyone who understands the system knew that would never happen. But I didn't expect him to start befriending people who acted so aggressively against him in the past, something strange going on here for sure.

It sounds like these 2 men are putting personal differences aside and now acting like adults and even leaders!!!

Sadly I reckon this will piss off the Trump haters worse than if he had of publicly drawn and quartered Romney

a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

Why would it piss me off?

Romney is fairly sane. We should be so blessed to have more sane individuals in Trump's clown car of an administration.

But I thought Trump was supposed to be terrifyingly thin skinned?

If the Secretary of State job is so important, how did Hillary Clinton qualify? Because she was a First Lady, back in the last century?

Trump is in control.

I also think he is much more shrewd than people realize.

He wants the Republican establishment to give him what he wants. He does this on his terms by bringing them in the fold.

In business, the best deal makers are the ones who can forget when necessary how they feel about the other side, as long as there is a path to getting what you want.

I believe a big part of why Trump acts like an ass is because it works for him, and fundamentally is a useful way of identifying other great deal makers. People who stay offended aren't great deal partners.

Trump wants to be liked. His thin skin and ego demand that he do whatever he can in order to gain favor of those around him. He says what people want to hear, and gives people what they want to see. He's a populist, plain and simple.

Trump has never been taken seriously or with much respect by other billionaires. Hell, his fellow rich elites voted to keep him out of Bohemian Grove. That had to sting. He had to apply in order be rejected, so saying he's not a part of it isn't some kind of counter argument. Trump wanted in, but wasn't allowed in. Becoming POTUS is his revenge. If you can't gain their respect or make more money ... become POTUS and gain power.

The ribbing he got at the White House correspondent's dinner has been widely cited as the tipping point for Trump. After being burned in front of so many wealthy and powerful people, his damaged pride and ego demanded that he run for office to show everyone he was worthy of their respect.

I'm not really sure what his early years were like, as it seems he's constantly seeking approval from everyone. Generally that would indicate some kind of trauma or abandonment in early childhood. He's spent his entire life being as flashy and flamboyant about being "rich" as possible, sometimes to excess and bordering on gaudy and tacky. That screams overcompensation.

So, Trump wants the GOP and established Republicans to like him. He wants to get his way, and having Romney on his team he might get these Republicans to the table. It's really not that brilliant or surprising. Trump changes his mind and opinions daily, depending on what he thinks people want. I'm certainly not surprised by this at all.

a reply to: carewemust

Not long ago I captained the Mitt needs a magic underwear wedgie Facebook group but now I want him as my SoS. I think Romneys presentation is tops and with President Trump writing the script that's Oscar time.

Psychologically I get Trump better than most were a lot alike. He talked some trash on Mitt had some laughs now it's game time. I imagine they got Stronger Together through it all and here we are.

originally posted by: Kettu
I'm not really sure what his early years were like, as it seems he's constantly seeking approval from everyone. Generally that would indicate some kind of trauma or abandonment in early childhood. He's spent his entire life being as flashy and flamboyant about being "rich" as possible, sometimes to excess and bordering on gaudy and tacky. That screams overcompensation.

His early years were he was a wild child then his dad sent him to military school. At military school, he was an athlete and the most popular kid there, and was infamous for sneaking in and bedding the hottest girls in the area. I'm thinking that Trump is a rebel that had some kind of respect for our servicemen and country beaten into him there. Most rebels never get that. Also he's obviously a genius.

a reply to: AlphaIron

That makes a lot of sense, AlphaIron. Wealthy entrepreneurs are inherently thick-skinned and share a sort of kinship amongst each other. Due to being successful in the mob-infested New York City construction environment, Donald Trump is as tough as nails. Mitt Romney isn't a brash, but he's tough in his own way. Each knows that the other attained success in a way that most Americans only dream of..instead of knuckling down and doing it. A mutual respect of each other's success in the business world is what will bind Trump and Romney. I too hope that Donald names Romney as S.O.S.. So does the Mainstream Liberal Media. That's the ONLY thing that gives me pause.

a reply to: RedDragon

*squints* Can't tell if serious or sarcastic...

Why does that whole thing you wrote read like something a teenager would make up to sound cool to his friends?

Unfortunately, Trump isn't the Dos Equis guy, as that guy isn't real and just a character in a commercial.

a reply to: Kettu

Kettu, I don't know why you feel that Donald Trump bends over backwards to be "liked". If that was his nature, 90% of the controversy surrounding his Presidential campaign would never have occurred.

I don't think there are more than a handful of ultra-wealthy entrepreneurs who put being liked at the top of their agenda in life. Maybe actors and actresses.

originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

Why would it piss me off?

Because your Trump hate is irrational leading me believe you are as well.

Just so were clear my post wasnt aimed at you or anyone else in particular but your 2nd post in this thread still shows alot of butthurt coming out.

You dont know Trump personally and you are making assumptions on what has been projected via the MSM.

Maybe give him at least in month in office and see how he goes

a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

I'm sure if he and I sat down to eat a meal or play cards we'd probably get along. I'm sure he's personable and might even be fairly entertaining to sit down in private with.

I know for a fact, however, that I couldn't work for him or spend extended periods of time with him. I've been around long enough and known enough people (and worked for enough people) to see the tell tale signs of his personality.

a reply to: carewemust

Do not fret this Train is a few klicks ahead of Gloria Burger and the C street band.

a reply to: carewemust

It just proves you can't trust any politician! They're all sell-outs and self-absorbing people. If anyone offers them money or a job that increases their influence and power, they quickly become lap dogs. Their personal convictions are for sale to the highest bidder. Mitt Romney is the poster child.

I would guess that if he offers Romney a job...it's just to appease the republican side...though I wouldnt support that move.

I always thought that Romney was a god damn lizard. David Icke style.

originally posted by: Kettu
Trump wants to be liked. His thin skin and ego demand that he do whatever he can in order to gain favor of those around him. He says what people want to hear, and gives people what they want to see. He's a populist, plain and simple.

hahahahahahaha.
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wow. Thanks for the early morning laugh.
Seriously??
Since when does Trump care what people think?
Since when does he say what people want to hear?
He says whatever he feels like saying to anyone.
He says what he wants to say and what he believes in.
He does what he wants to do.

That's one of the things I like about him.
He is not like the snake-oil-salesmen politicians who ponder for days what they are going to say or how they are going to respond so that it fits some kind of agenda.