Oops! Jill Stein Cannot File Direct Request for Recount in Pennsylvania, Must Take It to Court

The PA judge in the Federal case, is the same one that said this last month:

A federal judge on Monday rejected an attempt by the Pennsylvania Democratic Party to restrict the behavior of supporters of Donald Trump at polling places in Tuesday's election.

U.S. District Judge Paul S. Diamond, in a ruling issued a few hours after a hearing in Philadelphia, was critical of the last-minute nature of the lawsuit, filed last week.

He said the Democratic Party "contrived to transform this litigation into a mad scramble" with the late filing and by not producing any evidence of the claim that the Republican presidential candidate and his supporters are "illegally conspiring to suppress minority voting."

So, hopefully he uses the same common sense in the recount case.


Judge rejects Democratic call to restrain Trump supporters at polling places

Bwhahahaha. Stein just spent 3.5 million in Wisconsin for the recount to award Trump nearly 70,000 more votes.

That's the end of it for Pennsylvania. The Federal judge's hearing is Friday -- 3 days before the deadline to certify the election. A statewide recount of all the ballots is basically physically impossible in that short a time.

Update on Michigan: later this morning, Michigan might stop the recount. Last night, the state supreme court ruled that Jill Stein does not have standing as an "aggrieved" candidate, essentially because she has no chance of winning, and even she admits this. The federal judge had ordered the recount to begin immediately (so it could be finished before the deadline), but reportedly that order did not address Stein's standing to request a recount. The election board will decide if they're going to stop the recount. I hope they do. I think most people see this farce for what it is: a last-ditch effort to flip the state for Hillary.

For anybody that think that Stein is not doing this for Hilary this is the prof, she was a proxy from the beginning, I knew that from day one.

Michigan by the time the recount was ordered, they already had the votes counted and certified and send to Washington, is clear the judge said that even with the recount it would not change the decision of the winner.

It was not doubt that the electoral votes of Michigan were already for voting, unless the discrepancies on the recount where too big.

Now way in hell the way things has played out in the other two states.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
Bwhahahaha. Stein just spent 3.5 million in Wisconsin for the recount to award Trump nearly 70,000 more votes.

EDIT: See posts below this one. This is incorrect. Trump is up by about 70,000 votes, overall after the partial recounts. That's where the confusion is coming in. He was not awarded 70,000 MORE votes.

The real fake news, mainstream media, was the architect of their own demise, and of Clinton's demise too. They were so wrong about the polling, because in their arrogance they lost touch with the average American voter. And the average American voter is getting smarter. Not telegraphing their moves. The runaway legacy media in an effort to outdo their competition kept ramping up the chances of a Clinton win, which emboldened the riggers to lower and lower the margins, helping to conceal their dirty work.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

The count was never off by 70,000 in any of these states.
I'm not sure what you are talking about?

a reply to: TrueAmerican

It's not off by 70,000 votes. So far, Trump had gained about 100 votes, and Hillary has lost about 30. I don't know where that 70,000 number keeps coming from, but Wisconsin's recount has turned up nothing unusual, just the sort of trivial, random changes you expect to see from an honest recount.

a reply to: TrueAmerican
What? Please show your links...I have never heard this.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
Bwhahahaha. Stein just spent 3.5 million in Wisconsin for the recount to award Trump nearly 70,000 more votes.

Not sure where you heard that.
This is the recount status as of yesterday - from another thread:

originally posted by: BlueAjah
Wisconsin Day 6 Results

2324 counties are recounted out of 3636

Excluding Milwaukee:

Trump +140
Clinton +144

Net Clinton +4

I wonder if someone someplace mistakenly included Milwaukee.
They are still counting absentee ballots, but reported partial totals.
The official WI recount site clearly says that Milwaukee reported recount totals are not yet complete.

a reply to: BlueAjah

Yes, agreed. I edited my post above to reflect this. Silly me for not using my brain, and going with some arbitrary comment. Sorry, no coffee yet this morning!

Bad move Jill!

'Crazy' decision: Chester County to recount presidential ballots by hand

The Chester County Board of Elections has ordered a hand recount in the presidential race, a process expected continue through the weekend, according to the Daily Local News. But election officials do not expect a different outcome.

“This is crazy,” county Commissioner Michele Kichline told the newspaper.

The board voted unanimously Thursday to recount the ballots in 143 of Chester County's 228 precincts after Green Party candidate Jill Stein and some Democrats demanded a recount, the newspaper reported. Under the state Election Code, the county must conduct a presidential recount if at least three people in a precinct request one — even if there are not any allegations of tampering or a mistake.

Unofficial county results showed Democrat Hillary Clinton, with 141,694 votes, leading Republican Donald Trump, who received 116,147 votes. Stein received 2,253 votes.

A bit more on the Chester County PA recount.

It appears that some voters submitted affidavits requesting the recount, taking advantage of the fact that the certification in this county was delayed due to a recount in another race.
Some other counties denied recounts because they had already certified results, and it was past the 5 day deadline to request recounts.

I think this is likely a last ditch attempt by Stein to fish for something in support of her federal hearing requesting a recount of the entire state, which takes place today.

While requests from Green Party supporters for recounts in counties across Pennsylvania have been rebuffed, Chester County officials say they have no choice but to approve a request for a recount in hundreds of precincts across their county.

The recount will come at a cost of about $15,000, and will cover 143 of the county’s 228 precincts.

While county commissioners and elections board members say they don’t expect it will change the outcome of the election, they say under the law they have no choice.

The county’s elections results were not certified because of a court battle over a state house race, and the law says if three voters from a precinct request a recount before certification, the request must be granted.

More than 190,000 ballots will be counted by hand, the county says no ballots will be challenged during the recount.

Chester County To Recount Votes In Several Precincts

This is a link to the official 31 page response by US Justice Paul S. Diamond, J. regarding the PA Stein Federal recount request.

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a reply to: BlueAjah

Neat....

VII. Conclusion

Dr. Stein has repeatedly stated that she has sought a Pennsylvania recount to ensure that
every vote counts. Granting her later than last minute request for relief, however, could well
ensure that no Pennsylvania vote counts. Such a result would be both outrageous and completely
unnecessary; as I have found, suspicion of a “hacked” Pennsylvania election borders on the irrational.

Finally, Plaintiffs’ claims for relief suffer from several flaws, each fatal to their Motion. For all these reasons, I will deny that Motion.

a reply to: BlueAjah

Result of the Chester County PA recount of 143 of the county’s 228 precincts by hand:

The recount, if accepted and ordered by a judge, will run along the same lines as the county’s presidential vote recount did over the past weekend. That operation, ordered for 143 precincts in the county by the Board of Elections on Thursday, ended Saturday with none of the candidates gaining or losing any vote to any significant degree, a county spokeswoman said Monday.
The recount had been demanded by the campaign of Green Party candidate Jill Smith.

The certified results of the presidential recount showed Democrat Hillary Clinton with 141,682 votes, or 51.9 percent of the county total. Eventual winner Republican Donald T. Trump, the new president-elect, came in second with 116,114 votes, or 42 percent. Stein captured only 2,246 votes, or less than 1 percent, while Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson came in third with 2,930 votes.

Those results show Clinton losing 12 votes, Trump losing 33, and Stein losing six votes.

The decision to order the recounts came after Stein’s supporters, and some disaffected Democrats, had gotten enough signatures to demand the recount in 143 of the county’s 228 precincts. Commissioner Michelle Kichline, a member of the board, called the effort to recount the votes “crazy” because it was not likely to affect Stein’s place in the race. She complained that it would be a significant use of taxpayer dollars, paying for the election workers to count each of the 190,000 or so ballots by hand.

According to the county spokeswoman, the recounts lasted from Thursday afternoon to Saturday afternoon, spanning 30 hours over three days. There were a total of 20 counters the first day, 11 the second, and 80 on Saturday. Sixty party observers attended the recount in the cafeteria of the county’s Government Services Center in West Goshen.

ETA: source

Pennsylvania's Department of State certifies presidential election results

Updated: 4:45 PM EST Dec 12, 2016

HARRISBURG —

The Department of State today certified the results of the November 8 election in Pennsylvania for president and vice president of the United States. Shortly thereafter, as required by the U.S. Code, Gov. Tom Wolf signed the Certificate of Ascertainment for the slate of electors for Donald J. Trump as president and Michael R. Pence as vice president of the United States. The certificate was forwarded to the Archivist of the United States.

The Department’s action followed the presidential vote certification by each of Pennsylvania’s 67 counties. Results for other races on the November ballot will be certified after all counties have completed the process.

The Certificate of Ascertainment included the following vote totals:
- Electors for Republican Party candidates Donald J. Trump and Michael R. Pence – 2,970,733
- Electors for Democratic Party candidates Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine – 2,926,441
- Electors for Libertarian Party candidates Gary E. Johnson and William Weld – 146,715
- Electors for Green Party candidates Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka – 49,941
- Electors for Constitution Party candidates Darrell L. Castle and Scott N. Bradley – 21,572

That's a wrap on PA!

originally posted by: BlueAjah
Pennsylvania's Department of State certifies presidential election results

Updated: 4:45 PM EST Dec 12, 2016

HARRISBURG —

The Department of State today certified the results of the November 8 election in Pennsylvania for president and vice president of the United States. Shortly thereafter, as required by the U.S. Code, Gov. Tom Wolf signed the Certificate of Ascertainment for the slate of electors for Donald J. Trump as president and Michael R. Pence as vice president of the United States. The certificate was forwarded to the Archivist of the United States.

The Department’s action followed the presidential vote certification by each of Pennsylvania’s 67 counties. Results for other races on the November ballot will be certified after all counties have completed the process.

The Certificate of Ascertainment included the following vote totals:
- Electors for Republican Party candidates Donald J. Trump and Michael R. Pence – 2,970,733
- Electors for Democratic Party candidates Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine – 2,926,441
- Electors for Libertarian Party candidates Gary E. Johnson and William Weld – 146,715
- Electors for Green Party candidates Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka – 49,941
- Electors for Constitution Party candidates Darrell L. Castle and Scott N. Bradley – 21,572

That's a wrap on PA!

Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are now certified and Jill Stein has wasted everyone's time and stolen money from fools. It's now on to the electoral college where Clinton is trying to find 37 faithless electors to throw the decision to the House.