The Constitution lets the electoral college choose the winner. They should choose Clinton.

a reply to: ketsuko

I wouldn't wait up for an answer from the OP on that one!!

At least not a direct answer anyway. You'll likely get some oblique deflection along the lines of...

'that's not the point...', or...

'you don't understand...'

It would appear that 'Elvis' (OP) has...'left the building' under the guise of sleep (that, or the buzz was wearing off).

In any case, I think I'll take my leave until 'Elvis' triumphant resurrection...after which time the floggings shall continue.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Yes well the electoral college is what picked your current president, plus in the primaries between Obama and Hillary, she won the popular vote but he got more of the delegates therefore he win the nomination.

Not to mention take out all the illegals that voted she'd lose that lead in the popular vote.

Democratic votes are like 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting for what to eat for dinner.


It appears that the "wolves" are pouting and sulking.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

If you believe that then you do not understand their purpose...

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
The Constitution lets the electoral college choose the winner. They should choose Clinton.
Source: www.washingtonpost.com

Many think we should abolish the electoral college. I’m not convinced that we should. Properly understood, the electors can serve an important function. What if the people elect a Manchurian candidate? Or a child rapist? What if evidence of massive fraud pervades a close election?It is a useful thing to have a body confirm the results of a democratic election — so long as that body exercises its power reflectively and conservatively. Rarely — if ever — should it veto the people’s choice. And if it does, it needs a very good reason.

Hillary Clinton has so far won the popular vote by over 2.1 million votes and counting. For the electors to choose Trump would be to veto the power of the people.

She may be qualified, but she's also a corrupt war monger.

Qualifications for a powerful job cease to matter if the person is corrupt or wants war for empire. In that case, "ability to get things done" may actually be a bad thing, if it means a politician can use such skills to push bad policies..

It would take a few weeks to sober Hillary up, she's probably still hittin the bottle, and I don't blame her.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR

If we were to drop the EC and go by popular vote then I would be the first to advocate holding another election. It would be unfair to all the disenfranchised voters who didn't vote simply because they feel due to the EC that their vote doesn't matter.

This is just my opinion, however I suspect that there is a huge number of conservative voters in California and New York that are simply too disenfranchised due to the EC to bother voting. The thinking I suspect is as follows; "Why should I bother voting RED when my state always votes BLUE ?" , "So why bother voting at all ?" , "I'm out numbered"

Here's the kicker...

Tell the people that we are doing away with the EC and then you might regret doing away with it when all those disenfranchised RED voters finally feel like their vote matters and they get up off their asses to cast their ballots. Your candidate may end up losing the popular vote as well in such a scenario.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: spiritualzombie

You know what the only genuinely good thing about Trumps presidency is going to be?

Unlike the last eight years, his administration will be OVERTLY right wing and disgusting, as opposed to being covertly right wing and hateful. Where his policies will destroy the lives of the working poor in all probability, and make it far too easy to earn money without doing any actual work (top one percent style), no one will be able to say they are surprised. When he takes away the money that prevents children and parents starving in the cars they are forced to live in, it will not be a surprise. When the richest soar ever higher, and those who make their money for them are paid ever less, it will not be a shock to anyone. That is what sensible and historically aware people expect will happen.

You know what you voted for, and you are going to get it.

With Hillary, all you know is that her plan is known to her, her public persona is not going to tell you a damn thing about it, and no matter what she says about unity, you know her only interest will be serving the same corporate bodies that Trump will pander to, except she will do it in direct opposition to the ideals of the party she is part of, where as Trump will pander to these people with everyone in full understanding of the fact, that you could expect nothing more or less from him.

Hillary is no better a choice for president than Trump is. She is just differently corrupt, differently disgusting, differently morally retarded than he is. But they are BOTH scum, unfit to lick the boots of the lowliest, homeless bum, leave alone lead a nation of the scale and importance of the United States of America. If the Electoral College want to make a choice other than the one which has been put forward already, then to make a choice which is not as harmful as Trump, they would have to shoehorn Bernie in, because replacing Trump with Clinton is like replacing a nerve gas with an acid cloud. They are both ugly things, which destroy life. They just do it differently.

My regret is that I can only give your post one star. You get it. it's all a matter of how they would destroy this country, not who will and who won't. Hillary Clinton was basically what I call a "Republican in Drag". She's a war monger. She's elitist. She's a control freak. And unlike Trump, Clinton would be much harder to take down once she stepped foot in office. Trump, due to his incompetence, childish temperament, and thin skin, will likely hang himself with his own rope, and drag many of his fandom down with.

Hillary Clinton, however, was another story. She was already well entrenched and too well connected, as well as legally and politically savvy, and getting that cow out would be a nightmare, as it is with any incumbent. This election seems to also have successfully knocked her out of the political arena for good. so we got that going.

We have to penalize Hillary for the millions of non-citizens and dead people who voted for her. Trump won the popular American vote and the electoral college, Hillary won the cheat vote. Around 6.4% non-citizens voted for president in 2008, we should compensate for the difference in voter turnout in 2016 and the relaxing of voter laws in democrat areas, so out of 30 million illegals about 2.5 million voted; effectively nullifying Hillary's popular vote lead.

The EC was set up to ensure that a corrupt, evil liar would never become president. Had the DNC anticipated the massive voter turnout, and cheated more, the EC would be required to not vote for Hillary.

That is why the EC was set up.

a reply to: Gothmog

Wrong.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

You won't get much support for that ideology on this web site unfortunately. It's too high up there.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Saw this video today. I don't know who this dude is but it seems like you need to watch it. I hope it doesn't fall on deaf ears but sadly I suspect it might. It's just another person's explanation of why Trump won.

WARNING: Language.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Gothmog

Wrong.

Source ?

a reply to: Sillyolme

Did they indeed?

According to who?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: spiritualzombie

You won't get much support for that ideology on this web site unfortunately. It's too high up there.

Delusional thinking isn't held in to high regard.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Ohanka

I agree NY and CA do not represent all of America. All Americans represent all of America... And when you apply equal vote to all Americans, Hillary is the winner. The Electors when exercising that choice should recognize and vote in alignment with the American people's choice.

Not even close.

If you add together *ALL* of the popular votes for *ALL* 49 states except CA, Trump is the winner.

Why can't you just let this go...it's getting kind of sad.

So, I'll bring a little levity back into it....