Pedo imagery in music videos

originally posted by: DrumsRfun
Mediocre...thats pretty nice of you.

Busted.

I thought they were painful and she should be arrested, not for pedophilia, but for producing unwatchable dreck.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Woodcarver
All part of normalizing relationships between adult men and young women.

Hmmm. Maybe you are right since the first thing that popped into your head was 'pedophilia'.

Me, I just saw a mediocre bunch of videos that did not appeal to me, but then again, I do not ideate about having sex with children.

Are you implying that i do?

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

I felt I had to add the bracketed comment because the OP has taken some pretty mundane things and twisted them into some secret pedo thing. I didn't want there to be any mistake from the OP that would imply I'm a pedo coz I liked the way a child danced.

TBH, this whole pedo thing lately has just been a massive facepalm. Pizza means something else?! I'm sure someone could find similar things referencing milk, cookies, beer, BBQ, or a whole list of things.

Ive tried staying away from them because there's so many straws being grasped and so much being twisted it's beyond a joke, but this thread is one of the most stretches, imo.

a reply to: Woodcarver

No, it didn't. I just saw 2 people dancing together.

If you saw something else, that's on you.

originally posted by: Woodcarver
Are you implying that i do?

I am indeed, you obviously do.

I mean who else watches a video with an adult dressed as a child and the first thing they think about is pedophilia? No one else in this thread.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I thought he implied we all were a couple of pages ago for not agreeing with him.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

I felt I had to add the bracketed comment because the OP has taken some pretty mundane things and twisted them into some secret pedo thing. I didn't want there to be any mistake from the OP that would imply I'm a pedo coz I liked the way a child danced.

TBH, this whole pedo thing lately has just been a massive facepalm. Pizza means something else?! I'm sure someone could find similar things referencing milk, cookies, beer, BBQ, or a whole list of things.

Ive tried staying away from them because there's so many straws being grasped and so much being twisted it's beyond a joke, but this thread is one of the most stretches, imo.

I will admit that this could be a stretch. And pizzagate is all circumstantial and most of it is grasping.



Is there anything in music videos, advertising, or anywhere in the media, that you do find suspicious in this same manner?

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I thought he implied we all were a couple of pages ago for not agreeing with him.

That's the trend in all these "pedogate" (renamed it lol) threads. If you don't agree then you must be "one of them".

a reply to: Woodcarver

No. because I don't watch music videos hoping to see paedophilia, unlike some. I watch them because I like the music and, sometimes, the videos.

a reply to: Woodcarver

And if youre not a female (maybe you are)member....how would YOU know what he is portraying to them?????? Your opinionating again. And in fact almost everyone replying to this...does not agree.

Britney Spears and Hannah Montana were perhaps visually stimulating. But nowhere in any of their imagery were they implying and presenting the act, definition or suggestion of pedophilia.

Youre missing the point here. In music and video producing, and the sexual acts of what youre suggesting...are 2 different things...even by definition.

Respectfully? The fact that you DO see it like that, and believe they represent that...is troubling to me.

But the best course of action on this...is to yield to the female membership here at ATS. They will set the record straight everytime. You can bet on that.

Your assumptions...and youre entitled...are still troubling to me. But it doesnt matter what I think...I dont have that issue.

Best, MS

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Woodcarver

No. because I don't watch music videos hoping to see paedophilia, unlike some. I watch them because I like the music and, sometimes, the videos.

you guys are now both implying that im a pedo for calling out things i think are questionable? This thread pretty much instantly turned into an attack on me for speaking up. Perhaps that is why no one speaks up about this #?

Heyyyyy.

I watched about 20 seconds of that video...not sure about the pedo angle but it was pretty crap, both the music and the video.

I think I get the OP's point, I mean...who is this aimed at and who will it appeal to?

What I find most disturbing about this thread is the attack on the OP and the overt insinuations made.

What do I think? Honestly...think the OP made a thread in sincerity, but perhaps being too analytical of the content. There definitely is a problem with regard to what' being put out there for young audiences...someone mentioned Ariana Grande - and Miley Cyrus - Cyrus recently let fans grope her while she perfomed on stage.

I wasn't going to bother responsing...but I logged in after a bit specifically to do so. Seems a few members here reckons it's ok to gang up on an individual...y'all claim he has some issue and needs to 'get out more' yet here you all are, making various insinuations...well it's a double edged sword and works both ways.

Here's how it works for me - you all are right, there is no overt pedofilia in this video, or other popular music videos...it's more covert than that. Do I think OP has issues, and agree with your unfounded insinuations? No...I don't think anyone with pedo tendencies would start a thread like this.

I'll tell you what seems like a 'decoy' to me...the people leaping in to make these bull# insinuations. To me that's a sign that there's something to hide...I mean, if I were a junkie and a group of people were having a discussion where they were denouncing drugs and all that use them, I'd be like...uh, yeah! I hate junkies..."why you talking about drugs, eh? you must like drugs...perhaps you have issues, junkie!"

A great way to put people off the scent, they'll be all like "gee, that guy really hates drugs...he can't possibly be a junkie" then I go home and take some ket.

Yeah...I don't believe the people attacking OP are pedo's either, just wanted to point out that their logic can be easily twisted and turned on them.

Y'all have issues because you continue to berate the OP when you don't have to. Agree or disagree...who cares. But a certain group of you remain.

You're either trolling the OP, bullying the OP - or, dare I say it? Yes, because you all said it - his thread has made you uncomfortable, you want this swept under the carpet for whatever reason...let's leave it at that.

OP - I agree on some points, there's definitely something sinister. You can't compare someone dressing as a child and being provocative to someone dressing as darth vader or a bird...those comments are absurd.

Nobody destroys planets, that's the stuff of science fiction and completely retarded in this context. Darth vader is a fictional character...unfortunately pedophilia Is real and should be taken seriously.

I reckon you should bail, OP - the people you are arguing with might be the ones trying to hide something here...and when it truly boils down to it I'm sure if that's the case their convictions will be stronger than yours. You cannot win, this thread has been derailed regardless of whether or not you're right.

Maybe it was intentional, maybe not. But best put aside.

a reply to: Woodcarver

You whole op is this....

"She's implying paedophilia because she's dressed like a child!"

That's it. There's nothing more to it than that. You literally took a jump from a woman dressed as a child to paedophilia because "reasons".

a reply to: samerulesapply

Ah ha!!!!! The old double reverse psychology approach.

Or maybe I just find it disturbing that this entire pedophilia accusation outbreak is spiraling into some giant witch hunt because the Scooby Club is 'connecting the dots' and not realizing that those dots on the other end are people's lives that they are pulling into their Holmesian 'investigations' and poorly thought out Original Posts, like the one leading off this thread, are part of the problem and nothing to do with a solution.

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: DrumsRfun
a reply to: Woodcarver

I could post Lyrics to Elvis,Black Sabbath,Jimi Hendrix,Motley Crue,Chuck Berry,Johnny Cash etc etc...it means nothing.
I can post lyrics too...big deal.

None of them are dressed like little girls.

So it's paedophilia because she's dressed as a child?

What about the musuc videos with guns? Does that mean they're promoting Hoplophilia?

Pedo imagery. You guys are giving yourselves up.

Giving ourselves up? care to explain that?.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Woodcarver

And if youre not a female (maybe you are)member....how would YOU know what he is portraying to them?????? Your opinionating again. And in fact almost everyone replying to this...does not agree.

Britney Spears and Hannah Montana were perhaps visually stimulating. But nowhere in any of their imagery were they implying and presenting the act, definition or suggestion of pedophilia.

Youre missing the point here. In music and video producing, and the sexual acts of what youre suggesting...are 2 different things...even by definition.

Respectfully? The fact that you DO see it like that, and believe they represent that...is troubling to me.

But the best course of action on this...is to yield to the female membership here at ATS. They will set the record straight everytime. You can bet on that.

Your assumptions...and youre entitled...are still troubling to me. But it doesnt matter what I think...I dont have that issue.

Best, MS

I am perfectly willing to accept that many do not see exactly what i see, i have been embroiled in the pizzagate and twittergate world for several days. Perhaps my judgments are sensitive. However when the clown crew stepped in, i took it a bit personal. To me, this is a bit personal and i don't like what i see in the media. I know very well that there are plenty of monsters in this world. As we all do.

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: DrumsRfun
a reply to: Woodcarver

I could post Lyrics to Elvis,Black Sabbath,Jimi Hendrix,Motley Crue,Chuck Berry,Johnny Cash etc etc...it means nothing.
I can post lyrics too...big deal.

None of them are dressed like little girls.

So it's paedophilia because she's dressed as a child?

What about the musuc videos with guns? Does that mean they're promoting Hoplophilia?

Pedo imagery. You guys are giving yourselves up.

Giving ourselves up? care to explain that?.

I was implying that you were purposefully misquoting me.

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Woodcarver

And if youre not a female (maybe you are)member....how would YOU know what he is portraying to them?????? Your opinionating again. And in fact almost everyone replying to this...does not agree.

Britney Spears and Hannah Montana were perhaps visually stimulating. But nowhere in any of their imagery were they implying and presenting the act, definition or suggestion of pedophilia.

Youre missing the point here. In music and video producing, and the sexual acts of what youre suggesting...are 2 different things...even by definition.

Respectfully? The fact that you DO see it like that, and believe they represent that...is troubling to me.

But the best course of action on this...is to yield to the female membership here at ATS. They will set the record straight everytime. You can bet on that.

Your assumptions...and youre entitled...are still troubling to me. But it doesnt matter what I think...I dont have that issue.

Best, MS

I am perfectly willing to accept that many do not see exactly what i see, i have been embroiled in the pizzagate and twittergate world for several days. Perhaps my judgments are sensitive. However when the clown crew stepped in, i took it a bit personal. To me, this is a bit personal and i don't like what i see in the media. I know very well that there are plenty of monsters in this world. As we all do.

And THERE it is!

You went looking for something, therefore that's what you will see.

Look at the Duracell bunny. If you think of it you think of batteries and a toy. Now, if I mention sexual acts on stuffed toys, you can interpret that with the insertion of batteries and said bunny.

Seek and you shall see. Even if it's wrong.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yeah, perhaps.

I dunno, I'm just wondering why a specific group of people decided to stay here in this thread and attack the OP.

If someone see's a problem with something and reckons there's a sinister pedo connection then fair enough. I'm free to think either that person's a bit paranoid or maybe even mental. I'm also free to move on, if my firth thought was to pitch camp here with the sole purpose of trying to insinuate the OP is a pedophile then what exactly are my motives?

What's the saying again - the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist.

I get both sides, I can see why some folks might think the OP a bit flaky...but to claim or insinuate that he/she has pedo tendencies simply because they started this thread...particulraly in the current climate, is a little off. In fact it's down right hate and borderline abuse...seems to be a lot more accepted here on ATS than it used to be.

I can definitely see the OP's angle, maybe the video he linked was a poor example. Now the biggest question I have is this - why are people so happy to ignore the obvious and pretend it doesn't exist? Why are people buying into this line of thought...that it's not a big deal. Sorry but it is, if you can't see this stuff in the media you are the one with issues I'd say.

But to make out like people have no right to question this stuff, especially with all this pizzagate stuff. I mean, there's no smoke without fire...would I rather take it seriously and consider it a possibility than bury my head in the sand? In this case, yes...yes I would.

And the ostriches are more concerning to me than the OP. That's all.

a reply to: Woodcarver

Don't worry about it, mate - we're not all so bad-minded.