Holy Nightmare - Hillary Might Be Our Next President. A 3-state Recount is Possible.

November 22, 2016

"Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private."

Full Story: www.msn.com... tanntp

How many of these 3 states (Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania) would Hillary Clinton need to win, in order to take the Presidency from Donald Trump? If there's a chance, why doesn't she simply ask for the recount? Hillary certainly has the money to pay for it.

I would have ignored this if it were not for the allegation of hacking.

Just when you thought the Russian narrative had passed.

Wouldn't it be ironic if they recounted the votes and found out that actually more people voted for Trump than previously thought?

a reply to: carewemust

Never ends does it.

A re-count wouldn't be as bad as a re-vote, would it ? unless some have changed their mind since.

She has already concede. ....it's done .

originally posted by: Meldionne1
She has already concede. ....it's done .

I hope you're right! But as we know, government attorneys make the regulations so thick, that there might be a clause in there which allows a loser bypass the rule on "conceding and forfeiting", or whatever it's called.

originally posted by: Meldionne1
She has already concede. ....it's done .

Yeah that's not an actual thing. Though I doubt at this point she would ask for a recount unless these folks come up with something super compelling.

originally posted by: scubagravy
a reply to: carewemust

Never ends does it.

A re-count wouldn't be as bad as a re-vote, would it ? unless some have changed their mind since.

If the right officials were offered a few million dollars, they could manipulate the recount results. That would be right down the Clinton Foundation's ally.

originally posted by: carewemust
November 22, 2016

"Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private."

Full Story: www.msn.com... tanntp

How many of these 3 states (Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania) would Hillary Clinton need to win, in order to take the Presidency from Donald Trump? If there's a chance, why doesn't she simply ask for the recount? Hillary certainly has the money to pay for it.

It's a long shot. No proof of actual hacking as far as I read, just potential abnormal voting patterns? www.zerohedge.com...

a reply to: carewemust

all total between the is 46
Michigan 16
Pennsylvania 20
Wisconsin 10
she has 232, trump 290
if she got them that would be 276, tromp 244
ohh nooz please god don't let that happen.

The solution is simple.....Just give Kevin Rudd from Australia the potus, he is not wanted on either side so what better candidate could there be....he has experience in coups, knows how to tow the party line....

Now that i have got that sarcastic tone off my chest.....

Sure lets have a recount ....why not....the entire election has been nothing but professional so why not throw more mud into the mix......

(need a shaking head emoticon)

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: carewemust

all total between the is 46
Michigan 16
Pennsylvania 20
Wisconsin 10
she has 232, trump 290
if she got them that would be 276, tromp 254
ohh nooz please god don't let that happen.

Thank-you! I was wondering why they are targeting those 3 states. Now, we need to see if each of these states have their own re-count rules, or is up to Obama to decide YEA or NEA. (We know what he'd say..right?)

a reply to: ColdWisdom

Wouldn't it be ironic if they recounted and found that the election had been rigged for Trump, that the polls (including Trump's own internal polling) and the predictions derived from them were accurate (or closer to accurate)?

originally posted by: Arcturian8

originally posted by: carewemust
November 22, 2016

"Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private."

Full Story: www.msn.com... tanntp

How many of these 3 states (Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania) would Hillary Clinton need to win, in order to take the Presidency from Donald Trump? If there's a chance, why doesn't she simply ask for the recount? Hillary certainly has the money to pay for it.

It's a long shot. No proof of actual hacking as far as I read, just potential abnormal voting patterns? www.zerohedge.com...

As another poster said, ANYTHING is possible this election cycle. We might have a 2017 U.S. Civil War after all.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: ColdWisdom

Wouldn't it be ironic if they recounted and found that the election had been rigged for Trump, that the polls (including Trump's own internal polling) and the predictions derived from them were accurate (or closer to accurate)?

Yes it would be ironic....not for the majority of you voters however, perhaps for the rest of us around the world watching this unfold......not so much

It must be comforting knowing that no matter what the average voter does or says they are not even considered in the big scheme of things ....

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: ColdWisdom

Wouldn't it be ironic if they recounted and found that the election had been rigged for Trump, that the polls (including Trump's own internal polling) and the predictions derived from them were accurate (or closer to accurate)?

Donald Trump made a curious statement today when he said that HE KNEW that he didn't need to campaign on the West Coast or in New York. That implies that there was no doubt of his victory, doesn't it?

I hope Donald Trump's people are aware of this potential SNARE (Trap?) and are thinking like master Chess Players.

originally posted by: carewemust
I hope Donald Trump's people are aware of this potential SNARE (Trap?) and are thinking like master Chess Players.

Well sister he is currently in a game of chess online with putin so of course he getting the right advice

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: carewemust

all total between the is 46
Michigan 16
Pennsylvania 20
Wisconsin 10
she has 232, trump 290
if she got them that would be 276, tromp 254
ohh nooz please god don't let that happen.

If indeed it happens me thinketh Trump gets Wisconsin
Clinton 266
Trump 264
Very fair and very believable. *Walks away whistling*

From the New Yorker (appears to be original source):

The Clinton camp is running out of time to challenge the election. According to one of the activists, the deadline in Wisconsin to file for a recount is Friday; in Pennsylvania, it’s Monday; and Michigan is next Wednesday. Whether Clinton will call for a recount remains unclear. The academics so far have only a circumstantial case that would require not just a recount but a forensic audit of voting machines. Also complicating matters, a senior Clinton adviser said, is that the White House, focused on a smooth transfer of power, does not want Clinton to challenge the election result.

Yeah I can't see it happening. Had they come out with this the week of the election — maybe — but probably not.

How individual states manage their divisions of elections should be of national security. Leaving netsec up to individual states when it comes to national elections? Hell, some states are freaking broke as a joke. How hard do you think it would be for a foreign MILITARY to hack into one of these places?

It would be a hell of a lot easier than hacking into a DoD computer, and we know the Chinese and Russians can hack into our federal government computers. Individual states? Some running huge deficits and are in budget shortfalls?

If your state is a broke as a joke and costs us an election due to crappy computer security...

SMH