Reddit Pizzagate shut down

a reply to: JohnnyElohim

They try to explain it here, emphasis on "try".

I don't know if it is true but if there are only 6 degrees of separation between any two people anything above 3 starts to sound iffy.

a reply to: Trillium

Would you care to explain to the class what this "data dump" of names is supposed to be? Where did the data came from? How was it obtained? I'm flattered that you think I'm important enough to be a person of interest in any of these smear campaigns, but I'm afraid I'm just another pleb.

originally posted by: JohnnyElohim
a reply to: Trillium

Would you care to explain to the class what this "data dump" of names is supposed to be? Where did the data came from? How was it obtained? I'm flattered that you think I'm important enough to be a person of interest in any of these smear campaigns, but I'm afraid I'm just another pleb.

Since your so slow in picking thing up have a read

Update

a reply to: JohnnyElohim

And your topic was?

With regards to this new normal of fascism I can see many possible angles to debate this reddit decision, and given your history in this thread I'll make a simple point:

A fricken snopes piece aint no debunk, goddammit!

Despite the MP’s explosive intervention, Hale refused to hand over the papers which appeared to show that Leon Brittan, Margaret Thatcher’s Home Secretary, was fully aware of a pedophile network that included top politicians.
The editor’s resistance was futile; the following morning, police officers from the counter-terror and intelligence unit known as Special Branch burst into the newspaper office, seized the material and threatened to have Hale arrested if he ever reported what had been found..

How Thatcher’s Government Covered Up a VIP Pedophile Ring

This is far from outlandish and obviously a sensitive matter when anti-terror units provide terror in the name of sociopaths.
Not the best background for the actual decision to ban an open source investigation, this surely looks fishy. Many people don't trust their gubbermints anymore and they're spot on in doing so, wouldn't you agree?

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: JohnnyElohim

They try to explain it here, emphasis on "try".

I don't know if it is true but if there are only 6 degrees of separation between any two people anything above 3 starts to sound iffy.

Tenuous would be a kind word for it. Comet is a hub for hipsters, musicians, artists, and to some degree the power elite who want to be associated with these communities. The notion that someone who dated someone who knew someone somehow ties back to someone who still hasn't been tied to pedophilia can be construed as proof of anything is very John Nash in "A Beautiful Mind."

Many of the accusations surrounding the Clintons employed similar methods. For example the body count, which was really a list of everyone the Clintons had ever met who had died under any circumstance. The claims that she laughed about getting someone off the hook for a heinous crime (she laughed cynically and sadly at the failures of polygraph tests). People then throw them all out to see which will stick and assert that "where there is smoke, there is fire." The problem with accepting that standard is that it invites people to concoct as many accusations as they can because people will say "well, at least one of these things must be true!"

a reply to: JohnnyElohim


So its of absolutely no coincidence that just before they were about to give evidence against the Clintons they were offed.?

Since when does a pizza place website need a download page to your computer

Twitter 1

Twitter 2

a reply to: JohnnyElohim

What are you doing here i just don't understand. I get it that you don't think that this is all real. But why just not tell it once and move on to other post that interest you. You are all over these threads that are about pizza gate and these pedos. It really make me wonder who you are and what your agenda is??

I mean you are telling everybody that writes a post about this how stupid and without evidence they are, but you your self don't have nothing either and aint contributing nothing good to the caus at all. Just move on and let people digg in peace instead of having to explain every little detail to you like you don't know nothing. But you do know, and i get a feeling you know more then a lot of do. Somehow......
Now go read some other # and leave good moral people to try to fight this evil. You just need to go to google maps and look at the W DC overhead and you will get why people are doing this. And this is absolutely for real i have no doubt about. Just let good moral people work in peace why do you spend so much energy on something you don't even believe in??? I just don't understand. I have been reading this thread throw today and something is very very wrong with you. I mean you just can't quit. I ask also the mods to take a look at you, i really don't understand what you are doing and tryn to say. We get it. You don't believe in this all, so move on, thats it.

a reply to: Trillium

Good for her, and good for Twitter's support team for working with her to remove accounts that were actually being used to traffic child pornography. This of course does nothing to buttress or justify the travesty that is #PizzaGate and hardly puts Twitter in a bad light. They were right to police the publishing of a vigilante enemies list. If she had evidence of people abusing the platform, she should've worked with Twitter in the first place so they could address it.

Asking for sources and coherent argumentation does not make one "slow", it makes one discerning. You should try it sometime.

a reply to: anonentity

I've never seen a convincing substantiation of this hogwash, but it's certainly a good way to identify a right-wing radical with serious cognitive issues.

How do you explain these two

Twitter 3

Twitter 4

need more got the next four day off LOL and cold beer

What about this little jem LOL

Twitter 5

a reply to: Trillium

There is absolutely nothing to suggest any of that is real. Some of the technical language used is utterly illegitimate. Ip table to Haiti? Jesus, they sound like the writers on CSI. If there's anything to suggest the image with the disturbing language is not a forgery I would find that very compelling. Have you got such?

Maybe you like YouTube better

Twitter to a YouTube vid

a reply to: Trillium

Almost all of this is a retread of what has already been discussed, and it's all extraordinarily dubious. I am not inclined to play whack-a-mole with your Twitter links. If you're capable of stringing together a coherent picture and explaining why "evidence" should be taken seriously, I'm all ears.

originally posted by: Kali74
Dumbest. Conspiracy. Ever.

This is a very good point, star for you.

Not that I'd agree, that place is reserved for the official 9/11 conspiracy theory. Or JFK for that matter.

No it's an excellent argument not to shut down any open source 'amateur' research. If they're dumb enough to completely de-legitimize all similar investigations coming (including a wide sector of alternative news sites), so be it - hand them a spade to dig their own graves!
Which is why any decent cabal (owning the MSM) would rather moderate this whole train of thoughts to the point of endstation redicule. That's the efficient way to capitalize this event if it really would be just fools meddling with thin air, wouldn't it?

a reply to: Trillium

I don't do Youtube links unless the reason I should watch them is very well explained. This is the end of my response to your link barrage. Compose an argument or be ignored.

a reply to: Bojay

I think I've expressed that quite clearly.

I believe that #PizzaGate is a deliberate hoax begun by fascist radicals from r/The_Donald on Reddit and I am tired of watching trolls, liars, racists, and idiots make a mess of the world that I love.

We shall fight on the beaches.

a reply to: Trillium

Those are not proof of anything. your Twitter 3 link is just a repost of what I posted above and that is just plain flimsy.

Twitter 1 and 2 are said to be fake.

Seaman, of Twitter 4, is disgruntled after having been fired for posting something from Infowars on Huffpost.

a reply to: JohnnyElohim

I think saying this is about child pornography, however, is a bit of cherry picking.

Well it kind of is, but at the same time it's nigh-on impossible for anybody without the power to exercise a search warrant to prove anything since they would be liable to prosecution for viewing illegal content if they have explicitly searched for it. Accidentally happening upon it, that's different, but say I wanted to prove that Twitter accounts have been posting such content then I'd have to look for it - that would probably be illegal. So yes, there really isn't any actual evidence unless it's in the hands of law enforcement, and if that's the case then there's no chance that we'll be hearing about it any time soon.

Their platform was being used for what can reasonably be described as a witch hunt. These are the grounds on which they closed it. I think they were right to do so.

I can understand acting because people are posting personally-identifiable information, but to shut it down in its entirety is too suspicious for my liking. It might be that they received a notice due to complaints, it could even be that it became a part of an official investigation which we're not publicly aware of.

No. What exactly do you think it proves? Perhaps you could provide a link to the video you find relevant and explain what you think it tells us.

From about 1:40 - www.youtube.com...

This is a longer version than some of the trimmed ones which might be found. What's specifically concerning is the talk of "special pizza" and soon after some waffle about a newborn baby. This is just plain creepy rather than anything substantial, but that venue is hardly the kind of place where high-profile politicians and their acquaintances should be allowing their children to sleep at. People say it's a dive and it certainly looks like one, I wouldn't even eat there judging by its aesthetics (or lack thereof).

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The story is very ambiguous. I think one can reasonably interpret from it that the Haitian government made an example of this group to demonstrate that they were serious about gaining control of the situation. What makes you think this has anything to do with organized child abuse? In what way is she connected to Comet Ping Pong?

While there may not be a direct link we are nonetheless talking about a part of Connecticut Avenue which holds several businesses which seemingly have links to Hillary Clinton, and a case of child trafficking involving somebody who is clearly rather dear to her. I guess it's an assumption if anything, unless there are underlying facts which are not in the immediate public domain. Either way, we really have to question Hillary's integrity if she's effectively exonerating somebody who has been charged with a trafficking offence. But that's not the main story here, what blew that up was the untimely death of somebody who was purportedly investigating the very subject. Who knows what really happened to Monica Petersen, but she sure did grab a lot of attention.

To be honest with you, I think we have three issues here which kind of need to be separated: one is Comet Ping Pong and whether or not there is any weird crap going on there, another is whether Hillary Clinton herself has any kind of association with the place, and then there is the matter of child trafficking.

Personally, I'm not specifically concerned about Hillary because she lost the vote. Had she have won then the rhetoric would certainly be much different, but I reckon the story would've come out regardless - surely this was just waiting to be unearthed from Wikileaks one way or the other, at some time or another. I don't believe the election itself is really a factor here, I think it has much more to do with Wikileaks releasing the information around the same time (who knows, they may have done that on purpose, but it's not important to me).

What is important to me is that this is a genuine problem - that being the mistreatment of children by people involved in satanic, ritualistic and occult practices. I don't think this can be denied any longer, regardless of whether or not either Comet Ping Pong or Hillary Clinton are involved in anything of the sort.