Trump Says Any Conflicts Of Interest Were Priced Into Your Vote

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: jimmyx

Please tell us why then?

the fact that you ask this question, means, (1) that you do not understand the concept...and/or...(2) you have no desire, nor the curiosity to educate yourself on that concept.....thus, my explanation would be meaningless to you, as well as a waste of time for me.

Maybe Trump is just going to keep on winning in everything he does. Has there ever been a bigger winner?

Actually yes. Out of the last 44 Presidents, 42 of them were elected by a greater margin of the popular vote.
He ranks 43 out 45 (including himself) for the popular vote margin coming into office.
Rutherford Hayes (one of only two in history) 1876 was the last President to lose the popular vote by a larger margin than Trump and still win the electoral college.
And just last week he ceded a RICO lawsuit and agreed to pay 25 Million plus dollars to American Citizens he defrauded.
On top of multiple bankruptcies.

Still better than a former SoS who actively skirts the law having a private email server WHILE in office and a husband who holds the honor of being one of only 2 Presidents ever to be impeached. And yes I feel fine bringing up Bill because everyone seems to feel fine bringing up Trump's family. The fact people actually WANTED this family to hold the highest position in our government AGAIN is beyond me.

a reply to: matafuchs

then you are fine with him and his family making billions while he is president, as you have said in your previous post....and you think there is no conflict of interest with that....ok, got it.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Trump's pick for SoS faced charges of releasing classified information.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Hillary having a private e-mail server while SoS WAS NOT against the law, because there was no law

originally posted by: jimmyx
a reply to: matafuchs

then you are fine with him and his family making billions while he is president, as you have said in your previous post....and you think there is no conflict of interest with that....ok, got it.

Do you think past presidents didn't make millions while in office?
What about all the decisions they made while in office that they can benefit from after?

This argument is ridiculous. Of course Trump will make money while in office. So did Obama. Bush. Clinton. And so on.

originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Trump's pick for SoS faced charges of releasing classified information.

LOL...His DHS pick revealed DHS plans before he has even been appointed.

Wondering..is there a thread around here on that?

AP photographer reveals Kobach's hard-line plans for DHS
www.politico.com...

They are already leaking national secrets!

a reply to: stolencar18

Other Presidents didn't do it so underhandedly. Trump is taking a $1 salary specifically to give the appearance he's not financially benefiting. Meanwhile he will surely make millions. And it will be yuuuge compared to Obama. Trump is worth Billions remember? Obama went from 2 million net worth to 7 million. Trump's networth is not only unknown, it's EXTREMELY questionable.

— Forbes pegged his net worth at $4.5 billion back in September, while Fortune estimated his worth at $3.92 billion as of this May — it’s way less than Trump himself claims he’s worth. Trump says he’s worth “in excess of $10 billion” and blames the “terrible”, “dishonest” media for underestimating his assets.

Considering the fact his networth estimate is 5 billion dollars less than his own estimate, it's safe to say the money Obama earned will be a rounding error compared to Trumps mess. He's the type of person that can spend 6 million in a day.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: jimmyx

Please tell us why then?

the fact that you ask this question, means, (1) that you do not understand the concept...and/or...(2) you have no desire, nor the curiosity to educate yourself on that concept.....thus, my explanation would be meaningless to you, as well as a waste of time for me.

Maybe Trump is just going to keep on winning in everything he does. Has there ever been a bigger winner?

Actually yes. Out of the last 44 Presidents, 42 of them were elected by a greater margin of the popular vote.
He ranks 43 out 45 (including himself) for the popular vote margin coming into office.
Rutherford Hayes (one of only two in history) 1876 was the last President to lose the popular vote by a larger margin than Trump and still win the electoral college.
And just last week he ceded a RICO lawsuit and agreed to pay 25 Million plus dollars to American Citizens he defrauded.
On top of multiple bankruptcies.

Still better than a former SoS who actively skirts the law having a private email server

Wow...You certainly went from "It's not against the law" for all of Trumps severe conflicts of interest to "skirts the law" to Clintons Email server awfully damn fast. Have any partisan whiplash from that maneuver?

Your entire premise is based on your own hatred of Trump, and it is subjectively baseless. Just because Trump is now president elect, doesn't automatically mean he is somehow creating a big black hole of conflicts of interest. A conflict of interest is when someone DOES SOMETHING that creates a conflict after the fact. So, any of Trump's businesses have to not in any way be intermixed or manipulated to give him any advantage when he or his administration does governmental work.

This doesn't happen before the fact, it happens later. And that is what his own advisors are there for, to make sure government business does not create a conflict of interest with Trump's pre-existing businesses.

See how that works now? If you would like a REAL WORKING EXAMPLE of a conflict of interest where someone manipulates their government position for a private business advantage look no further then.... wait for it... HILLARY CLINTON. Blatant misuse of government to gain advantage.

Trump hasn't done anything yet to be even close to mimicking Hillary. OR Barry.

WOW, talk about ridiculous home made propaganda.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

He has a point: the media should have actually vetted him, instead of turning it into a circus.

Whatever the hell happened the last 18 months was not an election. Media is more interested in creating shock with out of context quotes and meaningless minutia from 30 years ago, and less interested in providing "the facts".

America bought him. Both parties supporters bought him. Like it or not. Because everyone gave viewers to the garbage media, instead of demanding they do their damned jobs.

originally posted by: jimmyx
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Hillary having a private e-mail server while SoS WAS NOT against the law, because there was no law

I did not say it was against the law....I said she skirted it....which she did by never using a state.gov email address in order to have official emails retained by federal servers for the preservation of documentation put forth by NARA.

Sure HRC knew about this rule and she used it to her advantage.....there was no precedence for it because it had not been done in this manner before.

Again....this all goes back to the same argument I had about people whining about Trump using laws currently in place to avoid issues.....these laws were MADE by current politicians in order to do exactly what they want, until the roles are reversed as they are now and then they want to complain.

Let's wait and see just how many of these laws get changed....my guess....a big fat 0. They will complain about it and raise fights over it, but when it comes down to it, they don't want to have to close any of the loopholes they or their funding entities use that they initially signed off on.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: jimmyx

Please tell us why then?

the fact that you ask this question, means, (1) that you do not understand the concept...and/or...(2) you have no desire, nor the curiosity to educate yourself on that concept.....thus, my explanation would be meaningless to you, as well as a waste of time for me.

Maybe Trump is just going to keep on winning in everything he does. Has there ever been a bigger winner?

Actually yes. Out of the last 44 Presidents, 42 of them were elected by a greater margin of the popular vote.
He ranks 43 out 45 (including himself) for the popular vote margin coming into office.
Rutherford Hayes (one of only two in history) 1876 was the last President to lose the popular vote by a larger margin than Trump and still win the electoral college.
And just last week he ceded a RICO lawsuit and agreed to pay 25 Million plus dollars to American Citizens he defrauded.
On top of multiple bankruptcies.

Still better than a former SoS who actively skirts the law having a private email server

Wow...You certainly went from "It's not against the law" for all of Trumps severe conflicts of interest to "skirts the law" to Clintons Email server awfully damn fast. Have any partisan whiplash from that maneuver?

No whiplash at all. Clinton was IN OFFICE at the time she was skirting the law. Trump is still just a private citizen who has broken no laws as far as the OP topic.

The comprehension breakdown on this point alone makes it hard to debate the topic.

originally posted by: NuncaPiensas
a reply to: Aazadan

Yippee for you. Waiting for your participation trophy?

I got one, it was an "I Love Voting" sticker. Right after the election I went to the local cemetery and put my sticker on one of the tombstones, which I'm pretty sure is illegal to do... but I got a laugh out of it.

originally posted by: Indigo5
Actually yes. Out of the last 44 Presidents, 42 of them were elected by a greater margin of the popular vote.
He ranks 43 out 45 (including himself) for the popular vote margin coming into office.
Rutherford Hayes (one of only two in history) 1876 was the last President to lose the popular vote by a larger margin than Trump and still win the electoral college.
And just last week he ceded a RICO lawsuit and agreed to pay 25 Million plus dollars to American Citizens he defrauded.
On top of multiple bankruptcies.

Don't forget his business "success". His fortune, under the control of his own businesses has actually shrunk over the decades once you take inflation into account. In fact, if the only thing he did was invest his money in 6 month CD's and constantly roll them over he would have nearly 3x the wealth he has now.

He's pretty much incompetent.

originally posted by: UKTruth
As did the last administration. One wonders how so many in Govt have become so rich. Obama is splashing out millions on 3 homes. Where did he get the money for that?
At least Trump does not need any more money. You've finally got a chance that a President wont be just in it for themselves.

Until the later part of his campaign in 2008 Obama wasn't even a millionaire. Since then though his book sales earned him a couple million dollars which have been invested for nearly a decade now, compounding interest. In addition to that, he has 8 years of a $400k salary which is $3.2 million that he didn't have to spend while in office. All told that comes out to about $10 million. Throw in the fact that he gets his presidential stipend for the rest of his life, and I can see him easily spending a few million on homes.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Trump's tweet

Prior to the election it was well known that I have interests in properties all over the world.Only the crooked media makes this a big deal!

The "crooked media".... the Nazi "Lugenpresse".... the Nazi "lying press" .....

IOW, "Everybody knew what I was doing all over the world. What I do is no big deal. Only the lugenpresse made it a big deal." The Lugenpresse.

No, Trumpa, we did not know the extant of your worldwide business interests. Maybe people in your circle knew, but the little people, the have-nots, were made fully aware by the media. The lugenpresse as you call them.

John Wonderlich, executive director of the pro-transparency group The Sunlight Foundation. “He’s going to learn soon that campaigning is very different from leading a country built on integrity and the rule of law.”

And, Trumpa, you are the one who craps all over American integrity and the rule of law. You have no integrity and you make up your own "law and order". You are nothing but the useful idiot of the billionaires who want to make their own rules for America.

With apologies to Lewis Carroll:
“When I use a word,” Humpty Trumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Trumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.”

a reply to: desert

No, Trumpa, we did not know the extant of your worldwide business interests. Maybe people in your circle knew, but the little people, the have-nots, were made fully aware by the media. The lugenpresse as you call them.

This is sarcasm...right?

so, trump will be appointing people that will be regulating his business interests....and somehow that won't be a conflict of interest?.....