India Permits Free Energy Technology Despite Threats From UK, US, Saudi Arabia

originally posted by: onehuman
They are willing to go ahead and defy the rest of the super powers basically.

What does this mean? Are you saying governments around the world deny and disallow the use of clean, free-energy sources (if they exist)?

I find that hard to believe. Is that a policy mandated in some UN convention? I'm keen to read where the use of supposed clean, free energy is not allowed by the world powers.

When you're young and/or naive you want to believe anything is possible. Maybe some people have to believe anything is possible? Anyway, that's not how the world is. Whether you come to this realization or not, it won't change the reality there're limits. The universe doesn't care what we think. It's to our benefit if we submit to this reality. Because when we acknowledge the limitations we can start to create more practical strategies and expectations.

Keep your feet on the ground. Try to.

And always push the limits. It's true they'll always be there, but we can sometimes push them further or change which ones matter to us.

I do not understand why this is a problem. India as a nation can do what it chooses to do in such matters as this. Historically, exploring one thing sometimes leads to other unexpected phenomena. Why would India turn off those possibilities based on narrow minded dogmatists?

a reply to: luthier

please translate that to english

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Your namesake suits you.

Very ignorant indeed.

Just because we haven't yet thought of a way doesn't mean it can't be done.
I dislike how when people hear or refer to free energy as literally making something out of thin air; creation.
Never ever have I seen a "free energy" device claiming they are creating energy from nothing.
They have however always tried to harness something else, like kinetic energy from magnetic propulsion.

Zero point energy is quite real and I can say this with 100% certainty. As certain I could say Star Trek style teleporters were real in the 90's. Look how far we have come in regards to that field.

When they, as the collective scientific body working in the field, refer to "free energy", they are referring to required energy input vs output gain. Being that the energy output is virtually free. So cheap to produce an output in magnitudes greater than the input, that to sell it, would virtually be free. To put a cost to it, today's nuclear power price is cents per kWh.
These theorized free energy devices would be MWh's per cent.
See the distinction there? The order of magnitude.

Now in regards to your comment of us always needing oil. Again... So very ignorant.

With supreme abundance of power and the freedom to use it to explore other means of science like teleportation... We might just be able to create devices like replicators.
We would never need to destroy our environment for us to continue our society.

The sky or universe is the limit to our potential when we no longer need to worry about sources of energy or anything relating to day to day living.
We would beholden to no man or corporation.

That is exactly what "they" don't want.
For us to be able to fend for ourselves without the need to rely on them.
That's their power, the power over our lives. The ability to control and dominate.
Freedom is the abhorrent thought to them.

There are multiple ways to produce free energy many of which have nothing to do with zero point energy or universal basic elemental construct.

If you can produce an adiabatic process or very close to it, it can be used as a free energy producing device.

Such talks will get you killed, your family killed. Or worse locked in a padded cell on a morphine drip for no reason at all.

The super powers have killed before behind such talk, let alone a working concept.

If you've done months worth of patent research you'd see that there are many free energy devices with incomplete schematics and or diagrams. You'd have to wonder why many of these have not been developed into working concepts. Then you find the patent holder has died mysteriously, or considered legally insane.

originally posted by: corblimeyguvnor
a reply to: onehuman

Reading you OP i wasn't bothered about the technology, was more interested in the "threats", funny though, can't see anything referencing the threats other than in the title.

Any idea who in the UK threatened India?

Thanks

I can answer that. The threats are in his imaginative mind, as in all the free energy believers.

None of them seem to understand that there would be trillions to be made, even if they only had to sell one device per person for their lifetime. Why? Most people can't or don't want to build anything. So, if these devices worked or had a chance in hell of ever working , the inventors would have every single tech and energy company beating down their door. Not to kill them, but to offer them millions or more.

Even if these machines worked, people would want to buy safe, insured, nice looking pre made units...and the big energy companies would jump on that.

And let's not forget that free energy devices in no way end the gas and petroleum needs of the world. Plastics manufacture and a host of industrial applications would still require petroleum based products.

Head. Use it.

originally posted by: AlongCamePaul
There are multiple ways to produce free energy many of which have nothing to do with zero point energy or universal basic elemental construct.

If you can produce an adiabatic process or very close to it, it can be used as a free energy producing device.

Such talks will get you killed, your family killed. Or worse locked in a padded cell on a morphine drip for no reason at all.

The super powers have killed before behind such talk, let alone a working concept.

If you've done months worth of patent research you'd see that there are many free energy devices with incomplete schematics and or diagrams. You'd have to wonder why many of these have not been developed into working concepts. Then you find the patent holder has died mysteriously, or considered legally insane.

Why would the superpowers you mention not be more interested in paying you off and selling the devices globally for untold wealth?

An example. Until the discovery of blue light emitting diodes, white led light was impossible, since you need red, green and blue. The man who first created a blue led did so in his spare time at his company, creating a billion or trillion dollar industry of white led bulbs. He just won a belated Nobel prize for his efforts.

Was he killed? Nope. Was he threatened? Nope.

The man changed the world and made low power bulbs and cheap light sources possible.

Still alive

a reply to: Sovaka


No one said zero point field/energy isn't real. But considering it occurs at Planck sizes (could be wrong about this...)we are nowhere near technologically capable of tapping into it.

harnessing free energy is the cash grabber.

the battery is where money comes in to play. once everyone has all the components necessary to achieve self-reliance, then energy becomes free. it's hard to nickel and dime everyone if their energy needs are already met?

the telegraph from long ago used an earth battery. a piece of copper and a piece of zinc stuck into the dirt, really expensive back then too.

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: onehuman

Free Energy tech simply doesn't and can't exist.

There are many things that were thought to be impossible, like flight. We hear new news in the Astronomy field every month saying "That isn't supposed to be doing that" or "That shouldn't be there". Technology is moving at an ever expanding and multiplying pace, so I think many things are possible that are yet to be discovered.

Flight was never thought to be impossible, and even with tech expanding at the rate it is, all tech breakthroughs have one thing in common, they all follow the laws of physics.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: onehuman

Free Energy tech simply doesn't and can't exist.

There are many things that were thought to be impossible, like flight. We hear new news in the Astronomy field every month saying "That isn't supposed to be doing that" or "That shouldn't be there". Technology is moving at an ever expanding and multiplying pace, so I think many things are possible that are yet to be discovered.

Flight was never thought to be impossible, and even with tech expanding at the rate it is, all tech breakthroughs have one thing in common, they all follow the laws of physics.

And if they happen to break any law , then our physics laws are re written and the person responsible goes down in history. No one is killed.

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: onehuman

Free Energy tech simply doesn't and can't exist.

There are many things that were thought to be impossible, like flight. We hear new news in the Astronomy field every month saying "That isn't supposed to be doing that" or "That shouldn't be there". Technology is moving at an ever expanding and multiplying pace, so I think many things are possible that are yet to be discovered.

Flight was never thought to be impossible, and even with tech expanding at the rate it is, all tech breakthroughs have one thing in common, they all follow the laws of physics.

And if they happen to break any law , then our physics laws are re written and the person responsible goes down in history. No one is killed.

What Laws of Physics did flight break ?
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a reply to: iTruthSeeker

exactly!

The " pics or it didn`t happen" crowd would still be living in caves if it wasn`t for the rest of us.

They probably still don`t believe that gravity and air exist because they haven`t seen a picture of it.

it`s good to be skeptical, but one should never go full retard.

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: onehuman

Free Energy tech simply doesn't and can't exist.

There are many things that were thought to be impossible, like flight. We hear new news in the Astronomy field every month saying "That isn't supposed to be doing that" or "That shouldn't be there". Technology is moving at an ever expanding and multiplying pace, so I think many things are possible that are yet to be discovered.

Flight was never thought to be impossible, and even with tech expanding at the rate it is, all tech breakthroughs have one thing in common, they all follow the laws of physics.

And if they happen to break any law , then our physics laws are re written and the person responsible goes down in history. No one is killed.

Yep, that's how science works

Although Einstein might die a bit if current physics were rewritten.

originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

exactly!

The " pics or it didn`t happen" crowd would still be living in caves if it wasn`t for the rest of us.

They probably still don`t believe that gravity and air exist because they haven`t seen a picture of it.

it`s good to be skeptical, but one should never go full retard.

But we know gravity and air exist since we can blow on our hands and toss a ball in the air...really silly comparison there.

Also, "the rest of us" ? Exactly do we have you to thank for? Quantum theories? Any medical breakthroughs you contributed to? Maybe you rewrote some of Keplers laws and contributed to space exploration? How's your work on the next generation of batteries coming along?

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: onehuman

Free Energy tech simply doesn't and can't exist.

There are many things that were thought to be impossible, like flight. We hear new news in the Astronomy field every month saying "That isn't supposed to be doing that" or "That shouldn't be there". Technology is moving at an ever expanding and multiplying pace, so I think many things are possible that are yet to be discovered.

Flight was never thought to be impossible, and even with tech expanding at the rate it is, all tech breakthroughs have one thing in common, they all follow the laws of physics.

And if they happen to break any law , then our physics laws are re written and the person responsible goes down in history. No one is killed.

What Laws of Physics did flight break ?
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What? I'm not sure you understood what I said. Also, as has been mentioned every time this idiotic belief is parroted, flight wasn't really ever thought to be impossible. Unless you are talking about during the Middle Ages etc, before the scientific and tech revolutions started. But that would be a silly thing ...so I'm sure you are not

originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

exactly!

The " pics or it didn`t happen" crowd would still be living in caves if it wasn`t for the rest of us.

They probably still don`t believe that gravity and air exist because they haven`t seen a picture of it.

it`s good to be skeptical, but one should never go full retard.

It's also not wise to go full retard in the pursuit of realistic sci-fi.

None of the advancements mankind has made or observed break the laws that one guy made, in fact they all have been based upon them.

If there was an aether ("vacuum") that had energy available for withdrawal, some life form would be making use of that on Earth by now, and likely would have been the ancestor of all life on Earth.

Life uses quantum tunneling, afterall. And various/sundry effects that utilize nanoscale materials. Its not like nature doesn't figure out how to hack itself like we have.

It just doesn't seem likely given the trillions of mutations that have passed through the genetic filter of life here on Earth without it already occuring.

originally posted by: loveguy

the telegraph from long ago used an earth battery. a piece of copper and a piece of zinc stuck into the dirt, really expensive back then too.

And in this case, the dirt part was an electrolyte. The copper and zinc are the source of the power, and that only because they are refined metals. The energy you're getting out of the battery was put in during the refining step, when the metal oxides were reduced and the pure metal form was attained. So it's not energy from nowhere, it's energy from the smelter.