Britain Has Passed the Most Extreme Surveillance Law Ever Passed in a Democracy'

The UK has just passed a massive expansion in surveillance powers, which critics have called "terrifying" and "dangerous." The new law, dubbed the "snoopers' charter,"

Britain Has Passed the Most Extreme Surveillance Law Ever Passed in a Democracy'



This is just sad. What are they so afraid of? How did this get passed into law? WAKE UP YOU UKers!!

originally posted by: AshFan

The UK has just passed a massive expansion in surveillance powers, which critics have called "terrifying" and "dangerous." The new law, dubbed the "snoopers' charter,"

Britain Has Passed the Most Extreme Surveillance Law Ever Passed in a Democracy'



This is just sad. What are they so afraid of? How did this get passed into law? WAKE UP YOU UKers!!

Yes, this is the real 1984. I read about this a few years ago, and never heard since, I thought it had gone down the toilet. I suppose it got through quietly in the hoopla after Brexit and the American election.
Still it was attempted at first by the same woman who is now Prime Minister, that's not good she is dangerous and needs to be curtailed by Parliament and the law.

This para is very significant, since it has a bearing here at ATS I'm sure,

"The law will force internet providers to record every internet customer's top-level web history in real-time for up to a year, which can be accessed by numerous government departments; force companies to decrypt data on demand -- though the government has never been that clear on exactly how it forces foreign firms to do that that; and even disclose any new security features in products before they launch."

a reply to: smurfy

They have just created their very own panopticon. You are trapped on an island and everything you do it being recorded.

originally posted by: AshFan
a reply to: smurfy

They have just created their very own panopticon. You are trapped on an island and everything you do it being recorded.

That's just it, the internet is anything but an island. (I just inserted a paragraph above that is relevant)

This was unenforceable years ago when first introduced, it was unenforceable last year when it was being discussed again and it is unenforceable now it's been passed.

All it does is demonstrate the governments technological illiteracy.

originally posted by: AshFan
a reply to: smurfy

They have just created their very own panopticon. You are trapped on an island and everything you do it being recorded.

Oh well we are doomed! So do we honestly think that every single person in the UK is now being monitored? No that's impossible. Yes your internet records may be kept by as for someone monitoring your internet use 24/7 is a bit far fetched.

It's like walking into a large supermarket and seeing hundreds of cctv cameras and assuming that every single camera is watching you when they arnt

TBH though, good luck checking my internet history all I go on it's ATS lol I don't use the internet to its full extent. GCHQ will get bored watching me

I'm not attempting to make light of this in any way, but there is one thing that is ingrained into the nature of the I.T. industry. Every time a security or safeguard protocol is invented by an I.T. engineer, another bunch of engineers start inventing ways to circumvent it or render it ineffective.

The actual rules on the use of personal information are something I am required to be familiar with in my line of work. Approval for use of personal information has to be approved by the Information Commissioner and the information can only be used for the purpose it was originally requested for. There are also limits on how long the information may be held and the circumstances that allow the information to be held.

Like I said at the beginning I am not trying to make light of this and it is good that people are paying attention.

a reply to: CulturalResilience well said. I think a lot of people believe that the information kept is accessible to anyone without reasons or purposes. For example when I was a CCTV operator for 10 years people assumed I could hand over any footage of anyone to anyone which wasn't the case

originally posted by: ThePeaceMaker
a reply to: CulturalResilience well said. I think a lot of people believe that the information kept is accessible to anyone without reasons or purposes. For example when I was a CCTV operator for 10 years people assumed I could hand over any footage of anyone to anyone which wasn't the case

Quite so, the rules and safeguards on the use of information are actually very strict and effective and to misuse them is a criminal offence.

a reply to: AshFan

Being awake has nothing to do with this. Having a PM we did not vote for however, has a great deal to do with it.

a reply to: AshFan

A new investigatory powers commissioner will also oversee the use of the powers

Lol.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: AshFan

Being awake has nothing to do with this. Having a PM we did not vote for however, has a great deal to do with it.

We didn't vote for Cameron before her either, he just happened to be leader of the Conservatives at the time, what the UK voted in was not a person but a party and it's policies, once he decided to jump ship, after brexit, the party elected a new leader, same party, same policies (in the main) different leader, their choice, not the general public.

No idea how i'd vote in the future, they, currently, are all FUBAR

is the best i can do, make it 40% ABV!!

LOL

originally posted by: AshFan
a reply to: smurfy

They have just created their very own panopticon. You are trapped on an island and everything you do it being recorded.

We have boats.. Although The two huge land masses either side of our island are not that appealing either. Especially the one to the west of Ireland..

originally posted by: Misterlondon

originally posted by: AshFan
a reply to: smurfy

They have just created their very own panopticon. You are trapped on an island and everything you do it being recorded.

We have boats.. Although The two huge land masses either side of our island are not that appealing either. Especially the one to the west of Ireland..

The one sightly North West is the best chance, they jailed their bankers and BEAT us in the world cup

originally posted by: corblimeyguvnor

originally posted by: Misterlondon

originally posted by: AshFan
a reply to: smurfy

They have just created their very own panopticon. You are trapped on an island and everything you do it being recorded.

We have boats.. Although The two huge land masses either side of our island are not that appealing either. Especially the one to the west of Ireland..

The one sightly North West is the best chance, they jailed their bankers and BEAT us in the world cup

I like those guys but way to cold.. Think I would prefer the other huge island on the other side of the globe.. Good climate.. No Donald trump or hilary and feck all cameras in most of the country..
Although would have to put up with being called a pommie all the time..

a reply to: Misterlondon

I'll stick with the cold, too many arachnids and and other stuff that will kill you down there, i mean, who wants to check their slippers in the middle of the night when all you want is too pee! jeeze, you even have to check the seat and bowl before you release LOL

Not only that, the law also gives the intelligence agencies the power to hack into computers and devices of citizens (known as equipment interference), although some protected professions -- such as journalists and medical staff -- are layered with marginally better protections.

wow...

FYI, Russian Duma passed the very same Surveillance Law earlier this year. I don't know what foreign news show you about Russia, but have you heard about this one?

Since large protests are BANNED in Russia, and Russian RosGvardia (basically hundreds of thousands policemen, special forces, etc.) and given the right to shoot into the crowd according to this law as well, Russian people cannot argue with the government any more. If you ever get caught saying something bad about government on the internet - you will be imprisoned to 2-5 years with fines, which you are going to cover for the rest of your life.

I'm a Russian citizen so here's a piece of objective reality for you guys. Putin is great in foreign politics, but most people in Russia are suffering from extreme poverty and corruption. Putin has done literally nothing for 16 years of his reign at the top. The only credit that may be given to him is that Russia hasn't collapsed yet.

They want to prevent people uprising and taking control back, like they did with Brexit, ever again.

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
They want to prevent people uprising and taking control back, like they did with Brexit, ever again.

Thats what I thought as well.. that and it being almost impossible to enforce makes it the biggest psyop Ive seen in a bit. LOL! IMO the Brits are well capable of dealing with this.. and there are enough British patriots to keep things in check if they get too far out of control. I love seeing Britlash!