Satanic child abuse beyond belief.

Please watch at least part of this video and tell me you believe this girl is lying! there are many many more like her they keep coming forward and are quickly forgotten as we the public just can't contemplate this whole subject!

The people who refuse to believe those who come forward. The other Human beings who continue to say it is not happening, does not happen, are part of the illness that not only exists, but is growing around the world.

No one wants to believe people are eating children, when "mock" sacrifices are burned or slaughtered and we are told they are just effigies we CHOOSE to believe that it is easier! If we look at the evidence and look for it because it is being covered up and you have to look not expect it to pop out on the front page of a newspaper or TV news!

It is my belief that these groups which all answer in the end to one are practicing an ancient religion which has been in constant practice throughout history. They have a belief that their actions bring them power, money and fame and I believe that for the higher up practicers this is in fact true. It is in fact possible that not many are allowed to be in power anywhere that do not belong to this cult.

When will we listen! When will we hear the victims?

The first part of this video was taken from the Australian TV show 60 minutes. It was one of the most popular truth shows on TV, and exposed many criminals. But it was taken down. I wonder why. ?

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Related or not picture a group pf nine men who each choose 9 men known only to themselves, who also choose each nine men known only to themselves. You can keep a secret if others know no one but 9 names. This process would work to grow a huge organization.
You might research the The Nine Unknown which may be a basis for some or all of the cults. I believe all of the cults, secret societies are actually one. They all are in the end worshipers of Lucifer under various names and guises.
mysteriousuniverse.org...
The can be boiled down to a worship of the sun as an expression of Lucifer, satan the devil. The symbolism of Venus kali Apollo among others.

a reply to: Char-Lee

I would believe this much, much more if the 80's and 90's weren't rife with hoaxes relating to satanic ritual abuse. It was the "child sex predator" of the day, with all manner of innocent people being rounded up by over exhuberant detectives.

This whole satanic thing is mass hysteria. Until evidence proves otherwise.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Char-Lee

I would believe this much, much more if the 80's and 90's weren't rife with hoaxes relating to satanic ritual abuse. It was the "child sex predator" of the day, with all manner of innocent people being rounded up by over exhuberant detectives.

This whole satanic thing is mass hysteria. Until evidence proves otherwise.

Just for a tiny moment, from someone with some first hand knowledge, what if they were not mostly hoaxed but "proved" hoaxes by people with the power to do so. That the perpetrators were let go and the victims were silenced.

I wonder have you ever looked at the evidence before your decision to not believe. We need some hysteria over this subject! People are cowards when it comes to looking at anything beyond their comfort zone!

Dble post ATS is not responding well atm.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

It's also not realistic to conclude that a 15 year old child could be raped by 30 men and survive.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

It's also not realistic to conclude that a 15 year old child could be raped by 30 men and survive.

So you are saying this girl like all of the others is lying! Wow! God help us and soon!

a reply to: Char-Lee

Char-Lee, I'm basing my opinion on what I know to be a fact. Thrity men in one 'session'? Think about it. There was a 15 year old girl who was gang raped by 15 guys, some of them even after she had lost consciousness. She was taken to the hospital but still passed away from internal injuries, and bleeding that couldn't be controlled.

I basing my opinion on logic, and what I know to typically happen. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I am saying it's unlikely.

eta, Let me add, so I don't sound like a cold-hearted witch, it's not that I don't believe this girl per-se. It's that I don't believe the video. If I did, I would be "hysterical" as you advise.

I realize this is a highly charged emotional issue. I've said my piece, and I'll leave your thread.

a reply to: Char-Lee

I hear you, but if i allow that kind of fallacy to take hold in my mind, i may begin to embrace other logical fallacies that make it difficult to do the work I do, from a "base logic unit" standpoint.

Evidence. More than anecdotes. Children are notoriously sociopathic. I've worked plenty with some borderlines that could spin quite the yarn. So i ask for evidence that isn't anecdotal. If its true, then lets rip the lid off. Otherwise, they're just stories. Until theres evidence.

anybody catch the cory haim story in the enquirer? yeah the enquirer!

says some big time roller did him badly and all kinds of those in the know- actually talked about it in their social circles.
some dude has mad money to shut up the enquirer right?

so it is as bfft says, not so much a demon cult as it is a pack of predators.
talked about in social circles instead of moving for prosecution is pretty huge.

i think it's like aiding and abetting the suicide over-dose of cory haim, myself.

I haven't watched the video yet, it'll probably upset me but I need strong information about this subject. There is most definitely something afoul, I'm a witness due to certain things having happened around me and no amount of people throwing around the word "fallacy" will change my position on the matter. This is a genuine problem and we have to tackle it.

a reply to: angeldoll

How isn't it realistic.

If it happened one after another? 30 men, 5 minutes each, equals 2.5 hrs. With lube. That's just to give you an idea... it wouldn't take too long- it's totally doable. Now, if you had the 15 yr old for like 6-8 hrs, that'd give each rapist a good bit more amount of time to enjoy the deed.

Or, if you have the 15 yr old within your grasp over the span of a couple of years? Twice a month would cover over 30 men in two years.

It's possible.

But when you say "rape" you're probably thinking he/she is fighting off their rapists or something- when the child is actually... not fighting. The child is just royally mind #ed to believe that he/she doesn't have a choice, or voice.

I was informed, as well, that a "pimp" makes up to $90,000 annually off of one individual victim. How do you think they make that money? Child porn is part of it, but you know... it's basically prostitution.

I don't know about the satanist stuff at all though so I'm making no comments about that.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Evidence. More than anecdotes. Children are notoriously sociopathic. I've worked plenty with some borderlines that could spin quite the yarn. So i ask for evidence that isn't anecdotal. If its true, then lets rip the lid off. Otherwise, they're just stories. Until theres evidence.

It was only anecdotes that started the entire Royal Commission in Australia.

In the 80s and 90s no one would listen. Priests and Nuns did not do those things. Orphanages where you could order a child for the weekend could not possibly happen.

I worked damn hard to lift the lid on the whole stinking putrid mess!

I have seen first hand how this all operated.

But yes, a different country, same stories and still people hide behind "they are only stories".

Sorry mate ... you are wrong!

If you had my history you would not be so dismissive.


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I will tell you now, all of those pizza references in the emails are exactly what people are saying they are.

You have no idea how big this is ... no idea at all.

Now I sit here thinking back .... a couple asking for a read head this time. They look at me. #! But no, I was already allocated!

The people I went with every weekend were the best of the best. Others were not so lucky!

Peace.

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a reply to: Char-Lee

That is the most disturbing thing I have ever listened to. And I have seen people cut up and fed to gators and other disturbing actions of humans in my old career. I was starting to daydream, while watching that, about finding some people involved in the behavior described because it would end extremely bad for them.

I don't even know what to say at this point....

The 80s called. They'd like their Satanic Panic back.

And while we're at it, maybe we can put Damien Echols back in jail?

a reply to: Char-Lee

Add to this Pizzagate and it is clear that you are spot on in your assessment of this being an ancient religion that has spread itself across the globe.

Disturbing does not even begin to describe it.

S&F

originally posted by: pheonix358


I will tell you now, all of those pizza references in the emails are exactly what people are saying they are.

Yep. They're secretly about ACTUAL pizza.

By the way, some of those "pizza emails" don't even exist. They were hoaxes. The "hair on my pizza" email is not on wikileaks anywhere.

There's an ATS member running 'round here somewhere that could probably give a lot of inside details on this subject. Not that he actually would.

Oh, right then. This is interesting. If anybody can tell me exactly where and when this interview took place I'd be extremely grateful. "Quiet English village" and a Brummie accent suggests that it's not exactly in the conurbation, but very close to it no less. It could be that she lived in Birmingham and later moved away. At a glance, at one point it looked like the journalist was in Hartlebury - if so then I need information about her case asap.

Also, this...

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Blaming Satanism is a modern day witch hunt.

It's not to say these abuses don't exist(as anyone can use 'ritual abuse') because they do but adding Satanism on is creating a scapegoat when the real issues should be addressed. There are sick people, and as bigfatfurrytexan mentioned there are also stories added to claimed incidences as well.

And yes I agree, these and such as, Pizza Gate needs attention as do other atrocities but when you direct in the name of it detracts the offenders sick mentalities responsibility. Many ritual abuses boil down to MK Ultra tactics, that should be noted.

*Satanism Theistic doesn't nor does LeVayan Satanism advocate in harming people especially children.

originally posted by: notquiteright
There's an ATS member running 'round here somewhere that could probably give a lot of inside details on this subject. Not that he actually would.

Who is it?