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Revelation 12 - The Great Sign in the Sky Begins November 20, 2016

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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: TzarChasm




...kind of makes me wonder where you would draw the line concerning the will of god. particularly if it was a choice between your salvation or someone elses destruction.


Not much to wonder about my long time member.
It would be foolish to consider a line at all.
God is God.

And the time for negotiating anything would be over.
So do you have a point or are you just failing to rattle my cage
for an uncounted amount of times in succession.


dude, dont be gay, calling me your member. gross.


the point where there is no longer a line is the difference between a villain and a badass. its never too late to negotiate, especially if it means saving billions of lives. its all about how you treat someone in a position to neither retaliate or reciprocate. are you spiteful, or forgiving? armageddon sounds pretty spiteful. not much different from the holocaust, tbh. just reverse-hitler on steroids. but i still think yellowstone exploding would be fun...



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

I didn't say I believe any of it. I am familiar with Christian prophecy because of who my family is. I was just pointing out to another poster, not all interpretations of Christian prophecy is about the world ending but the end to a human system way of living. It could happen like when we went from foragers to civilizations.

About the job he is applying for, so if Obama gets it he is the antichrist? What if he doesn't then is the next guy the antichrist?



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm




dude, dont be gay, calling me your member. gross.


A sick mind might think so.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: TzarChasm




dude, dont be gay, calling me your member. gross.


A sick mind might think so.


almost as sick as condoning the destruction of billions of lives.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: pheonix358




Whenever these type of threads come along I am always mindful of the line, 'No one shall know the time when this will come to pass.'

No it is no one will know the day nor the hour which consists of a long line of stuff until the tree is full of ripe fruit!



(Genesis 6:1-7; Mark 13:32-37; Luke 12:35-48)
36No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,e but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will be the coming of the Son of Man.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Well, if you want to get "out there," this is the buzz surrounding Trump:



It seems he is marked, but is he Cyrus or Nebuchadnezzar?

Only time will tell.




Trump Prophecy: 70 yrs, 7 months & 7 days old in 5777 on Inauguration 2017

Trump will be 70 yrs, 7 months & 7 days old on Inauguration 2017


Maybe 7 is up!


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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm




almost as sick as condoning the destruction of billions of lives.


Take that up with your Father in Heaven.
Hope it all works out for ya.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: ketsuko

So, does that mean Christians took the mark when they supported and voted for Trump?



Since the mark is a visible thing on the head or hand and no one can buy or sell without it ... I doubt it.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:47 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: TzarChasm




dude, dont be gay, calling me your member. gross.


A sick mind might think so.


almost as sick as condoning the destruction of billions of lives.


No one has to die. The choice has always been yours.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

I didn't say I believe any of it. I am familiar with Christian prophecy because of who my family is. I was just pointing out to another poster, not all interpretations of Christian prophecy is about the world ending but the end to a human system way of living. It could happen like when we went from foragers to civilizations.

About the job he is applying for, so if Obama gets it he is the antichrist? What if he doesn't then is the next guy the antichrist?



It is a mistake and favored hobby for every president to be labeled the antichrist. I never said Obama was the antichrist. The closest he came was the charisma and cult of personality he cultivated in 2008, but that bloom came off that rose too quickly.

For someone to be the actual Man of Sin, we're talking someone who has all that charisma and more ... years. People will want to follow him, worhsip hiim even. They will think he is Christ come again, and it will not bother evenhardened atheists who will fall in like all the rest.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

I made a prediction that seems to line up with yours. Here's the link to it. Could 2017 be the year for Gog-Magog?

Link



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 02:20 PM
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The real question is in my book is ...
why is this particular conjunction important ....
and all I get is because this guy says it is!


 


Why is Virgo important ....

because the prophetic word is giving humanity a ' head's up'.... this constellation referred to in Rev 12 has the moon at the feet of Virgo, which is of particular importance...[b[because the extremely rare 'Moon' at that below-her-feet position takes thousands of years to become a reality

the other Signs & wonders in the SUN-MOON-STARS found in end-times eschatology & prophecy happened in the 2014-2015 year of the 'horse' which was the celestial Tetrad, or 4 Blood Moons which corresponded to the final End-Times unleashing of the dreaded 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse (era)


so, as for cosmic 'Signs and Wonders', we have had the 2014-2015 Four-blood-moons, the 2016 Sign of Virgo (woman of Rev 12).... the soon-to-be-seen 3rd Sign and Warning, will be the Sign of the Son-of-Man -> likely another celestial phenomena...

All these Celestial/Cosmic Signs & Wonders will precede the antichrist, the 2 Witnesses

these Signs & Wonders of the Sun-Moon-Stars are not meant as timelines for the lesser-&-greater Tribulations,
nor as time markers for the sequences of the seals/trumpets/vials/bowls/ thunders/Woes or other punishments...

the 'Signs-&-Wonders' are for warning All people to Heed the coming Apocalyptic devastation on All inhabitants of Earth that is foretold in prophecy... there seems to be a notion in the minds of ATS posters that the Rev 12 'Sign' of Virgo with the Sun at her head & the Moon at her feet is an indication that the period of Tribulation is 30 or 60 or 90 days away... that is unfounded hearsay and speculations.... the Virgo Sign is unfolding so as to tell the 'faithful' that the 'Season-is-here' that the final-Week of Daniel is upon us now... ('Now' meaning this present generation...a generation lasting 120 years...)


stay thirsty my friend... says the Most-Interesting-Man-in-the-world



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 03:04 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: TzarChasm



Anyone who hopes all hell breaks loose deserves to be standing on top of it when the gates fail.



Deserves got nothing to do with it. But if it serves Gods will?
...kind of makes me wonder where you would draw the line concerning the will of god. particularly if it was a choice between your salvation or someone elses destruction. its curious that no one ever gifts their salvation to a sinner. you would think such an act to be a saintly deed, yet no one aspires to such heights. i remember a quote "you can mark a persons character by the manner in which they treat someone in a position to neither retaliate or reciprocate." more impressive than dramatically committing suicide by roman execution, i tell ya what. still, an apocalypse is nothing to be smug about, and anyone who is smug about it should be right there in the thick of it. hard to feel superior when you are fighting as hard as any unbeliever for survival. not to mention that using armageddon as the stick and eternal servitude as the carrot is a little heavy handed in terms of business negotiation.


Luke 21:28


28 When these things begin to happen, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”


There is a reason, the horror and disaster will get rid of the evil, the pain and the misery of every creature that is chosen to be a part of the new heaven and the new earth. The whole of creation, plant animal and human will have a reason to rejoice.

The bible says every person living at the time will suffer no matter how "good" you may be. Having faith that god knows the hearts of everyone there is good reason to trust the decisions of the one who knows his creatures.

Jesus did not condemn the prostitute at the well he told her though to go and sin no more. She was given a chance to change after learning truth and she did. Everyone has this opportunity.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: TzarChasm




dude, dont be gay, calling me your member. gross.


A sick mind might think so.


almost as sick as condoning the destruction of billions of lives.


Luke 21:28


28 When these things begin to happen, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”


There is a reason, the horror and disaster will get rid of the evil, the pain and the misery of every creature that is chosen to be a part of the new heaven and the new earth. The whole of creation, plant animal and human will have a reason to rejoice.

The bible says every person living at the time will suffer no matter how "good" you may be. Having faith that god knows the hearts of everyone there is good reason to trust the decisions of the one who knows his creatures.

Jesus did not condemn the prostitute at the well he told her though to go and sin no more. She was given a chance to change after learning truth and she did. Everyone has this opportunity.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

OK, understood. I never heard about any Christian beliefs running in this direction. I don't doubt you with the vast number of denominations it leaves room for a great variety of beliefs.

So if someone else get the U.N. Secretary General job, not Obama, will they be the Antichrist question. God only knows, but I would say Obama would not be a contender if he does not hold some position of high authority. This would put to bed the numerous prophesies and theories that people have been putting forth even before he was elected.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

I made a prediction that seems to line up with yours. Here's the link to it. Could 2017 be the year for Gog-Magog?

Link


Ketsuko posted a video, I think it was the third one on page three where he said above it:

"Scottie has been watching this sign for years."

Scottie pegged this as mid tribulation. If that is so, then we have a roughly 3 1/2 years ahead or more ahead since the sign will be in place for 9 1/2 months. Watch the video, I think you will appreciate it.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

I didn't say I believe any of it. I am familiar with Christian prophecy because of who my family is. I was just pointing out to another poster, not all interpretations of Christian prophecy is about the world ending but the end to a human system way of living. It could happen like when we went from foragers to civilizations.

About the job he is applying for, so if Obama gets it he is the antichrist? What if he doesn't then is the next guy the antichrist?



It is a mistake and favored hobby for every president to be labeled the antichrist. I never said Obama was the antichrist. The closest he came was the charisma and cult of personality he cultivated in 2008, but that bloom came off that rose too quickly.

For someone to be the actual Man of Sin, we're talking someone who has all that charisma and more ... years. People will want to follow him, worhsip hiim even. They will think he is Christ come again, and it will not bother evenhardened atheists who will fall in like all the rest.


I think he is going to hard a hard time winning the man on the street worldwide.

GREECE IN FLAMES: Riots in Athens at Obama's visit as Greeks scream 'Barack go home'

He started out with the world eating out of his hand, but things have changed.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: TzarChasm




almost as sick as condoning the destruction of billions of lives.


Take that up with your Father in Heaven.
Hope it all works out for ya.


i would rather take it up with those here on earth who admire religious apocalypse and or dominionism.



originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: TzarChasm




dude, dont be gay, calling me your member. gross.


A sick mind might think so.


almost as sick as condoning the destruction of billions of lives.


Luke 21:28


28 When these things begin to happen, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”


There is a reason, the horror and disaster will get rid of the evil, the pain and the misery of every creature that is chosen to be a part of the new heaven and the new earth. The whole of creation, plant animal and human will have a reason to rejoice.

The bible says every person living at the time will suffer no matter how "good" you may be. Having faith that god knows the hearts of everyone there is good reason to trust the decisions of the one who knows his creatures.

Jesus did not condemn the prostitute at the well he told her though to go and sin no more. She was given a chance to change after learning truth and she did. Everyone has this opportunity.


injustice is supposed to resolve injustice? global suffering to end global suffering? what next, curing cancer by giving every patient aids instead? maybe stop gun violence by giving every man woman and child a personal nuke to use as they see fit. lets throw a few million gallons of napalm on that house fire. the point remains, trying to save a species by putting it through hell is probably the worst example of foresight and preparation in the history of preparing to fail. apocalyptic salvation = oxymoron
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: sad_eyed_lady


Islam is the real key to end times prophecies. They have been taking over more and more countries and implementing draconian laws/rules and brutally ending the lives of those they don't agree with. Bizarrely they have the backing of many countries and Liberals despite their clear oppression of women and homosexuals. It just doesn't make sense unless you realize there is a greater sinister power behind the scenes setting things up.


I agree. I have been told by a Muslim that Prophet Muhammed said their religion will come to an end. Looks like the NWO is using them as a pawn to take out Christianity, but since NWO wants a God-less world the Muslims will have to go as well.



In the strictest sense, all religions will come to an end. I don't think that what we will end up with after He returns will resemble anything we have now. He will restore what should be, not what is. We are flawed beings and we inevitably get it wrong despite our best intentions.

This is why grace is such an important thing.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

Oh, I think Scottie sees some things, but I don't think he's infallible. I watch a variety of places and sources and then go with my gut in the mix. Sometimes, I get my own intuition on things. That's rare though.

I had a very strong negative impression of Putin once, but it only happened that once. I don't know what it means, and I haven't had it since.

But that doesn't mean I think he's the Antichrist either, only that I think something bad is connected to him in some way.



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