Trump Calls for Hate Crimes to Stop

a reply to: JesusXst

To be honest, I think it might have been wise for him to make a full address on the issue, unprompted, rather than waiting for someone from the press to suggest that there might be a problem to deal with. It would have showed that he had his finger on the pulse, that he knew what was going on in the streets because of his own wit, rather than because the reporter lady just told him.

Why did he seem so shocked at the fact that there have been demonstrations, why did he look so shocked that regular people are afraid for their lives, their way of life, their futures and indeed for the constitution as well? Why is this stuff a surprise to him, when so much of it issues from things he has said or implied? Media spin is the culprit, I hear you cry...

Well, if he is such a genius, why is it a shock that he would have to fight an apparently biased media to get his message out cleanly? Why is he not organising addresses to the people which cut through that alleged cloud of propaganda? Is it because if he is allowed to speak on the issues, he will make statements that fail to address them? Or is it because if he speaks on the issues, it will confirm the fears of people in the streets, that their nation is going to turn to crap in a heartbeat?

Let's take my opinion of the man off the table for a second. When cities are suffering demonstrations and protests, riots and civil disobedience, when people are being assaulted, ANY PEOPLE are being assaulted for their political beliefs, or the colour of their skin, or the bumper sticker they have on their car, when discrimination in both directions is on the rise, you do not wait till the media ask you for a comment.

You get your big boy pants on, and you organise your own press conference, or videotape an address which goes into detail about how you feel, what you expect people to do and not to do, you get out ahead of the thing, and you ensure that everyone, everywhere, knows that you do not want anyone assaulted in your name, and that you cannot accept people being assaulted because they support you. You state categorically that not only do people have nothing to fear, but WHY those who are concerned for their nation, lives and way of life have nothing to fear. You do so with compassion, heart, love and respect. You do not brush it off with a five minute interview, or wait till you are asked. You stand up and show what sort of person you are, by knowing your nations people well enough to know how to deal with this stuff, and get it nipped in the bud.

It is very concerning that it took almost a week for him to comment about the situation, and he needs to get on with it. It's one thing stealing a horse, but if you are going to, you had damned well better learn how to ride it fast.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie


By SJWs, he means people who care about non-whites and people who embrace diversity and value equality. You know... Great Americans. Be gentle as Great Americans are phased out.

I'm fine with caring for other people, but I fail to see how being racist towards whites fulfills that goal.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
why did he look so shocked that regular people are afraid for their lives, their way of life, their futures and indeed for the constitution as well?

LOL.....Honestly, do you believe this utter crap? The people who are "scared" are idiots. They are cultists being lead by a cult media. Literally ALL the violence we've seen has come from the people who are allegedly scared.

a reply to: WilsonWilson

I bet you don't say a word about the mass rapes and murders that the rapefugees commit all over Europe but act like the world is ending when a man uses a little locker humor.

Do you see why almost nobody would take your manufactured horror and shock seriously?

a reply to: TrueBrit

The only thing i'll say to your write up is this friend.... Trump has yet to be sworn in as President of the United States on January 20th 2017.

His amazed look you say of how unbecoming people are, i didn't see what you saw. Then again we all see different things don't we. But, I have yet to see the current President Barack Obama speak out against the Violent behavior particularly when it comes to pro liberal behavior. How long has he had to address the problems which have been ongoing for years now? He's only race baited and created havoc, yet stands silent now along with Hillary Clinton.

I'd say give the Man a break, he's got a lot of crap to clean up that the previous Administration has left behind in their long history of wrath and corruption.

a reply to: TrueBrit

It is very concerning that it took almost a week for him to comment about the situation, and he needs to get on with it. It's one thing stealing a horse, but if you are going to, you had damned well better learn how to ride it fast

It took him a week to address the situation.....yes, but he is also not actually the president yet.

We all still wait for President Obama or Hillary Clinton to make a statement so what does that say?

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: WilsonWilson

You are ill-informed or willfully ignorant.

There is no proof of Trump being a "sexual predator" and not even a shred of credible evidence.

I really have to disagree -- with the caveat that I understand evidence is not proof.

Trump pretty much confessed to sexually assaulting a woman. Maybe he was lying... maybe it was all male bravado... maybe he took that extra step from saying "I want to..." to "I did..." It may also be (as indicated by women involved) that they had given him implicit and/or explicit reason to think such, um, gestures would be welcome. I do know that many of the worst allegations remain unsubstantiated at best, and proven false at worst. I also know that all the allegations I've seen are decades old. And I know that I don't know the whole truth and I'm willing to reserve judgment for now. But it is very disturbing to me.

Nevertheless, Trump is our president now, I will give him a chance to prove himself, and give credit where (if) credit is due, unless and until I have reason to do otherwise. And I give him a big fat thumbs up for speaking out about the violence and hate crimes. That's not just what a leader should do, that's what a leader does.

originally posted by: JesusXst
a reply to: TrueBrit

The only thing i'll say to your write up is this friend.... Trump has yet to be sworn in as President of the United States on January 20th 2017.

His amazed look you say of how unbecoming people are, i didn't see what you saw. Then again we all see different things don't we. But, I have yet to see the current President Barack Obama speak out against the Violent behavior particularly when it comes to pro liberal behavior. How long has he had to address the problems which have been ongoing for years now? He's only race baited and created havoc, yet stands silent now along with Hillary Clinton.

I'd say give the Man a break, he's got a lot of crap to clean up that the previous Administration has left behind in their long history of wrath and corruption.

Bah....you beat me to pointing out the obvious.....star for you tho my friend

a reply to: Darkphoenix77

It tells me that obama/hilary are complicit with and support the attacks on whites.

originally posted by: Darkphoenix77

originally posted by: JesusXst
a reply to: TrueBrit

The only thing i'll say to your write up is this friend.... Trump has yet to be sworn in as President of the United States on January 20th 2017.

His amazed look you say of how unbecoming people are, i didn't see what you saw. Then again we all see different things don't we. But, I have yet to see the current President Barack Obama speak out against the Violent behavior particularly when it comes to pro liberal behavior. How long has he had to address the problems which have been ongoing for years now? He's only race baited and created havoc, yet stands silent now along with Hillary Clinton.

I'd say give the Man a break, he's got a lot of crap to clean up that the previous Administration has left behind in their long history of wrath and corruption.

Bah....you beat me to pointing out the obvious.....star for you tho my friend

Cheers

originally posted by: Boadicea


Trump pretty much confessed to sexually assaulting a woman.

No, he didn't. You're repeating a media lie. Feel free to quote where this happened though.

But it is very disturbing to me.

I think you're whatever the media tells you to be.

And I give him a big fat thumbs up for speaking out about the violence and hate crimes. That's not just what a leader should do, that's what a leader does.

yeah since it's being incited by the media, Obama and Hillary I'd like to see them speak up. How about you?

originally posted by: JesusXst

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JesusXst

I think i'll wait for another 8 yrs

I'm pretty sure he won't see the full term. There's a reason that Pence is his running mate.

a reply to: kelbtalfenek

I can't say that i agree.

There's no reasoning behind what you just posted. Would you care to explain.

a reply to: TheBulk

Why people are scared is not important. Reassuring them is, making them aware of the "manipulation of the media by commie, socialist, lefty pinko types and *insert other meaningless epithet*" is important, telling them what will, and will not be happening, in detail, without having to be prodded and poked on the issue... That might be wise.


a reply to: JesusXst

I understand that JesusXst, but clearly Obama is not making any comment here, and if Mr Trump thought it was wise to run for office, he should have been prepared to hit the ground running, because this was always going to be an almighty clusterbang of a time, and he should have known his enemy, and the people of the United States well enough to not only see this crap coming, but have a plan to deal with it calmly and in a way that gave people on ALL sides, hope and a great deal of it.

a reply to: Darkphoenix77

And you make a great point here Darkphoenix77, and this is the crux.

I hate what Obama did with his presidency, or more precisely, what he did not do. He failed to end the War on Terror, it's still going. He failed to close Guantanamo Bay, it's still open. He failed to produce a healthcare system which sought to run itself by taxation and make medicine a vocation not a profession, force drug companies to accept that their business is not one which ought be engaged in for profit in exclusion of all else, but an obligation which ought to be felt by people of scientific acumen, toward those who might be saved by its application. ACA did not go far enough to remove insurance companies to a safe distance from the consumer, did not go far enough to ensure that no sick person ever has to pay an actual bill for their care, did not go far enough in chasing away the lawyers and the money men from many things. He failed to attack and destroy the NSA surveillance programs the moment they were revealed to him, when he could have stopped that monster from growing to its current scale. He failed liberty in that moment alone, and if that was all that he has permitted to occur, that would be enough to question his motivations.

And Hillary? Do not get me started. Aside from the fact that she's been funding terror, aside from the fact that she's been a war hawk, aside from the fact that she's a duplicitous cow who I would not trust with my favourite mug, leave alone the lives of innocent people, aside from the fact that she has lied repeatedly to the people to save her own ass, not someone else's, she's a swell lady...but given all that she's an arch bitch with nothing to recommend her to a soul.

But....

If Mr Trump wants to make a go of this thing, he is not going to be able to rest on his laurels until he actually takes office. He is going to have to be different, he is going to have to take the national situation, and therefore the narrative, by the horns and make people aware in detail of his intentions toward every specific group of people who have an issue with his presidency, and counter every reason they have for their concern and show them why they are wrong to fear him, not just tell them that they are.

Think about it. People have been lied to by politicians for generations. If he really wants to be the better man, the best man, then he is going to have to get those best words of his out, and use them damned well, because if he lets this narrative continue, there just will not be anything worth a damn to salvage by the time he gets into office. And if he is half the man he hopes he is, he would have known that and acted on it, President or not.

a reply to: TheBulk

Me:

Trump pretty much confessed to sexually assaulting a woman.

Your response:

No, he didn't. You're repeating a media lie. Feel free to quote where this happened though.

Here ya go:

Transcript: Donald Trump’s Taped Comments About Women

There is not just a transcript (the quotes you requested), but also a video for simultaneous confirmation.

I think you're whatever the media tells you to be.

That's all you've got? Resorting to such a childish and insulting accusation, even after I allowed that nothing was proven, and after I offered extenuating circumstances, and after I said I would give him the chance to prove himself, this is really your best response? I have already demonstrated that I have thought this out much farther than either the left- or right media has. My expressed opinion is absolutely nothing like that pushed in the media. I'm not the one blindly accepting "whatever the media tell me to be."

And for what it's worth, I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you really are not condoning or even ignoring sexual assaults on women, but that you really believe it to be a lie. However, I do, and it is very disturbing.

Obama and Hillary I'd like to see them speak up. How about you?

Of course. As I have said many times right here on ATS already.

a reply to: JesusXst

Doesn't that make him an SJW racebaiter?

a reply to: TrueBrit

a reply to: JesusXst

I understand that JesusXst, but clearly Obama is not making any comment here, and if Mr Trump thought it was wise to run for office, he should have been prepared to hit the ground running, because this was always going to be an almighty clusterbang of a time, and he should have known his enemy, and the people of the United States well enough to not only see this crap coming, but have a plan to deal with it calmly and in a way that gave people on ALL sides, hope and a great deal of it.

See the problem is TrueBrit, that Trump isn't Christ and so, couldn't possibly have seen all of the crap hidden from us all. I'm sure he knows enough to have a plan, however, again Obama is the current commander in thi .. chief and so, He really needs to grow a pair and do something about the violence. He is still the big hauncho on the Throne, what's he even done about it for the past 8 yrs? He's contributed to this type of behaviour in the form of baiting and dividing the People.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: JesusXst

Doesn't that make him an SJW racebaiter?

No it doesn't. The Man has done very little other than continuously push his and that of his Masters (like Soros') agenda. I think we're all more than familiar with the tactics they've used over the past few yrs.

a reply to: JesusXst

Good grief..


I KNOW THAT!

But the thing is that Trump promised he was different, and with respect, you do not have to be the second coming of Jesus to be aware of the social situation in a country whose media are literally ejaculating hype and spin in every direction over the activity in the streets, and Trump, if he is half the man he has claimed, should, absolutely damned well should have known that Obama was going to let this go to crap, leave him with a sticky seat to fill, and have been prepared to do something about it before taking office, as I said, with an address or two a week if necessary, letting people know he is not a monster, that he loves his people, that he is there for them, whether they cannot work because they are disabled, or flying high in personal jets, whether they are from a line of immigrants or from settler stock from the old days, whether they are gay as you like, or straight as can be, because that is what people need. They need to know their leaders love and respect their countrymen. All of em. They need to know that they are going to be treated fairly by their leaders. They need to know that no matter what social demographic they fit into, they are important to their leader, and that their views will help inform his time in office, and the things he will do while there.

They do not need more of the same old crap. They need better. Either he is going to give it, or he is not. He needs to figure it out, pronto, otherwise he loses the people before his arse hits the chair behind the desk in the Oval Office.

a reply to: TrueBrit

AGAIN I can hear you no need to shout man

Lets just wait and see what the Man does first before drawing and quartering his Actions eh?