Italy referendum result could send shockwaves through markets and DESTROY Europe

Italy referendum result could send shockwaves through markets and DESTROY Europe

Analysts believe the outcome of the ballot on constitutional reform could have massive global implications.

With many European leaders already coming under severe pressure from anti-EU parties ahead of elections next year the significance of the Italian result is huge.

Defeat for Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi could lead to even deeper social turmoil in countries already struggling with austerity, immigration problems and a growing contempt for Brussels.

The repudiation of globalism continues.

The Western Spring never smelled so sweet.

One can only dream... and then make it happen

And French and German elections next year.

Massive peasant`s shift expected as in Lithuania.

Peasants are exhausted at the silent invasion. Loss of land, more tax, squashed schools, no housing, rapes/violence against their women.

The powers will do their best to say the peasant`s are ignorant and will repeat elections/referenda until the status quo result is achieved.

The peasants are revolting. History repeating as usual.

Never learn.

a reply to: loam

People of the globe are being enlightened that change really is possible, some accept it, those that don't, as seen recently will stir the pot, cause trouble and do anything to try and reverse any election / referendum (UK and USA for example)

I believe Renzi will loose this one, France is next followed by Germany ........... followed by even more Left Wing protests, some people just don't like change unfortunately .......... how many times have i heard "better the devil you know" over the last decade, BS

Looking forward to the next couple of years

a reply to: shipman

Don't you think it would be more accurate to say we relearn? I can't hold all lessons of generations past in my psyche at all times to guide my actions in the wisest of ways. This is a multi-generational cycle of tensions that release with events. At no point is it absolute evil or good

We only see things up close and personal, in our day to day lives. I don't know that having a population full of historians would make our progress any more efficient. We need people of all type, and apparently, to experience main events for the better and worse periodically.

originally posted by: SignalMal
a reply to: shipman

Don't you think it would be more accurate to say we relearn? I can't hold all lessons of generations past in my psyche at all times to guide my actions in the wisest of ways. This is a multi-generational cycle of tensions that release with events. At no point is it absolute evil or good

We only see things up close and personal, in our day to day lives. I don't know that having a population full of historians would make our progress any more efficient. We need people of all type, and apparently, to experience main events for the better and worse periodically.

You don't need to hold all the lessons ...... 2 key points to all the lessons over the generations :-

1 = Greed
2 = Power Hungry

If any situation current or future falls into any of these categories, we have not learned any lessons

a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

If only interactions were so easily deciphered.

That would be nice.

Surely complex relationships and scenarios are not so easily summed up, and contain a multitude in shades of gray.

Destroy Europe.. That sound intense
I hope EU goes down.. that would be a good thing for Europe
We are tired of EU to make up silly useless rules

a reply to: loam

The World Must Embrace Capitalism Again , or the Economic Decline around the World Will Continue . Investment , Research and Development , Production , and Marketing will Lift the World out of this Morose of the Failed Socialist Experiment .

originally posted by: SignalMal
a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

If only interactions were so easily deciphered.

That would be nice.

Surely complex relationships and scenarios are not so easily summed up, and contain a multitude in shades of gray.

Actually, in the main, they are. Everyone has an Agenda, what is more difficult to gauge is how far some people will go to further their said agenda

originally posted by: shipman
And French and German elections next year.

Massive peasant`s shift expected as in Lithuania.

Peasants are exhausted at the silent invasion. Loss of land, more tax, squashed schools, no housing, rapes/violence against their women.

The powers will do their best to say the peasant`s are ignorant and will repeat elections/referenda until the status quo result is achieved.

The peasants are revolting. History repeating as usual.

Never learn.

What's ironic?

This will only make more peasants. People's lives will be worse. I just hope that they'll admit it -- unlike the poor that live in the US south. Those unfortunate people keep voting for polices like these and Republicans over and over...and they end up needing more federal hand outs than others.

It's the victim glorifying the abuser mentality. It's a fine feat of social engineering, I'll admit that.

a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

Surely everyone has an agenda. Surely everyone has forces below their level of conscious awareness guiding their thoughts and actions. Surely collective organizations can reach a threshold to cause state-shifts that become more than the sum total of individual intent.

I'm sorry, you're looking at this retrospectively, asking the impossible, and then claiming we are without knowledge for following the laws of nature.

These same cyclical patterns of growth and decay follow all living organisms. They are not an anthrocentric phenomena.

I love the smell of Globalist institutions burning in the morning.


Burn baby burn!

a reply to: SignalMal

Retrospectively? I'm not looking at anything of the sort to be quite honest, also i am not "asking" the impossible, i was questioning my own morality. My agenda? to be mortgage free and live comfortably, enabling me to put food on the table for me and my family, able to drive a car without worrying about the price of fuel and perhaps take a holiday (a real break) perhaps once every couple of years. Too much to ask? I'd be happy with that

Some people want everything at any cost, Profit Profit Profit, Power, Power, Power, Symbols of Status etc etc

LOL, forgive me, i have my Forrest Gump mentality head on

a reply to: Kettu

No. What you are describing are not conservatives but kleptocrats who coopted a brand.

Globalism, where there is no pre-existing parity between its members, is nothing more than a massive redistribution of income scheme at the expense of the middle-class and a windfall for the global elite.

That agenda must be stopped....and clearly, many are starting to agree.

Exposing the European NWO corruption bastards will help.

It worked here in the U.S.

Make them all answer for their dreck.

a reply to: loam

Globalism, where this is no pre-existing parity between its members, is nothing more than a massive redistribution of income scheme at the expense of the middle-class and a windfall for the global elite.

That agenda must be stopped....and clearly, many are starting to agree.


And how can that be Accomplished ? A Redefined Nationalism will be Part of the Solution to that , along with an Embrace of a Global Manifest Destiny . Let each Nation Solve it's Own Problems Internally without the Influence or Interference of a Global Conglomerate of a Corporate Dictatorship which Globalism Really Represents . Some will Succeed , and some will Fail , but at Least their Success or Failure will be theirs Alone .

The World Must Embrace Capitalism Again , or the Economic Decline around the World Will Continue

Funny, European socialism was fine until they got attacked by the EU and the Euro. Before that things were fine, and they still are in places like Scandanavia.

Liberals were given all of western civilization to care for and they dropped the ball big time. Chickens are coming hime to roost. I only hope something worse doesnt take its place.

a reply to: pirhanna

That's the danger, isn't it?

The EU falls, what's going to replace it? The mutually hostile nation-states of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries? That should be a very real concern.

The same sort of thing could see the Balkanisation of the United States, Canada, and Mexico.

Not sure that's any better than what's there now. What was the death toll from the 19th-20th century wars, again? Not just the wars, but the consequences of those wars--famine, pestilence.

There's a very real probability of a dark side to all this anti-establishment stuff...