The great and mighty Hillary Clinton cannot deliver concession speach due to uncontrolable crying.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

I think Comey was more then accommodating to her needs.

I think Comey was more then accommodating to Trumps needs , he tipped the balance and affected the result by sewing the seed of doubt into the minds of early voters , it was the FBI that won it for Trump.

Narcissists blame everyone around them but themselves needles to say.

Sooo what are the big corps, and all the big money pay for play contributors going to do to the Clintons now? Ask for their money back? Bwaaahaha! She's done...

a reply to: gortex

affected the result by sewing the seed of doubt

whatever do you mean...she was ahead according to all "scientific" polls on the day of election, wasnt she ?

It's interesting to me how you're willing to ignore everything she and her cabal did over those emails...what she said to congress, the bleach bit, the taking of 5th by her lackeys...everything screams guilty...yet...you think it was the FBI...who refused to recommend indictment..is at fault.

OK man...carry on.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

she was ahead according to all "scientific" polls on the day of election, wasnt she ?

I'm British and have long since learned that polls are little more than a best guess based on skewed data.

It's interesting to me how you're willing to ignore everything she and her cabal did over those emails...what she said to congress, the bleach bit, the taking of 5th by her lackeys...everything screams guilty...yet...you think it was the FBI...who refused to recommend indictment..is at fault.

I'm not defending her I'm just calling it how I see it , given the choice I wouldn't have voted for either of them.

a reply to: gortex

I'm British and have long since learned that polls are little more than a best guess based on skewed data.

Your feelings are highly irrelevant to the matter. The bookies where paying out winnings on Hillary a week before the election...based on those same polls.
Point being...your comment on Comey sewing seeds of doubt is false. There obviously was no doubt in the minds of establishment, media, and Hillary voters.

a reply to: gortex

The fact that she was even able to run at all without an indictment recommendation is already far more accommodation than anyone else would have received. The simple fact of the matter is that almost every government official (including the sitting president), almost every major media network, almost every large corporation or special interest, almost every celebrity, almost every large political player in the United States was bending over backwards or helping in some other way to carry Hillary Clinton towards her coronation, AND SHE LOST!
SHE STILL LOST!
With a rigged/biased deck, game, table, dealer, casino, dealer, city, SHE LOST!
Because she didn't realise that so many people had started to see through a bit - maybe not all - but a bit of the cloud of bull# surrounding her and her political machinations. Because she was too arrogant, too sure of her certain victory, too apathetic to the emotions of the country.

With almost everything in her favor but her own conceit, she lost.

Well it doesn't harm Michelle Obama's chances for next time round. If Donald blows it she will walk it.

Did Obama sell her down the river as revenge(previous election) or just to distance himself from the inevitable or simply to enhance his own political position?

My second question in the OP was not really mentioned here. Does anyone have any insight or opinions as to why Obama didn't just shut the investigation down completely which he certainly could have done?

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

The bookies where paying out winnings on Hillary a week before the election...based on those same polls.

More fool them , it's not the first time bookies have been wrong.

your comment on Comey sewing seeds of doubt is false

In your opinion.
Many others including myself believe it to be true , guess conspiracies only exist when they're outlandish.
We will see if Director James Comey saved his job when Trump takes office.

originally posted by: bigyin
Well it doesn't harm Michelle Obama's chances for next time round. If Donald blows it she will walk it.

Now there's a twist I hadn't considered. Maybe this was supposed to play out the way it did(to include both of Comey's controversial statements) to increase Michelle's chances in the future. Hmm

a reply to: gortex

We will see if Director James Comey saved his job when Trump takes office.

well...in my view...he should be held accountable for not recommending charges when it was obvious to any decent legal expert...that the case is solid for prosecution.

a reply to: mobiusmale

If she is not careful with this kind of finger pointing, she might just alienate Obama enough that he will refuse to Pardon Clinton if Trump's new administration decides to follow through...

Obama is powerless to Pardon Clinton after Trump is sworn in. Obama has to issue any presidential pardons while he is still "president".

Some say Obama can't pardon Clinton because she hasn't been charged and/or is not under indictment, but this is not entirely true. Ford pardoned Nixon without Nixon being charged, but this was pretty rare in American history. It occurred only once before that in history, back in the mid 1860's. If Obama does pardon Clinton it will likely only be for the classified email scandal. I doubt he would consider pardoning her for alleged illicit dealings in the Clinton Foundation.

A presidential pardon has to be a pardon of a person, not a thing, and it has to be for a specific event. A pardon cannot just be a blanket pardon for "any" crime committed. Now, some may argue that Ford's pardon of Nixon was a blanket pardon, but it wasn't really. It was a pardon for 'any' crimes related to Watergate, not just any crime committed ever in his lifetime. So, while Nixon couldn't be charged for Watergate, he could have been charged for another crime if say he'd robbed a bank for example or the like.

She has to be charged & convicted in order to be pardoned....She's not been charged, she's not been convicted. In a Trump administration...Obama can't pardon any one. Rudy will be named Atty Gen & he will charge & take to trial for her crimes. Trump will also have Rudy bring charges against the foundation, if there's any there. Did any of us think she was really gonna take the blame for losing? I mean she's hasn't taken responsibility for anything that ever went wrong...That's why she'e keep Bill's sorry arse around......built in scapegoat. a reply to: brutus61

I dont believe Comey's announcement before the election had any effect on the election at all. He even said a couple days later that the investigation did not involve Hillary. So he went out his way just to clear her name, big surprise. So in the end I don't believe Comey changed the mind of a single Hillary voter, much less the election.

The real person to blame is Hillary herself. I don't know how old some of you are here, but if you saw what she got away with as first lady you would know how evil this woman is. She is a murderer,thief and criminal. And it never stopped when bill "left office" it just got worse. I believe she truly thought enough time had passed that this new generation would know nothing of her past a vote for her.

karma's a bigger bitch than Hillary and always win's

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: gortex

We will see if Director James Comey saved his job when Trump takes office.

well...in my view...he should be held accountable for not recommending charges when it was obvious to any decent legal expert...that the case is solid for prosecution.

Yes the director of the FBI should not only be bipartisan but apply the same laws to all. With that said I think that pressure from above could definitely have an affect. What will be the best test is the near future and whether or not charges are filed on matters other than the emails.

Ahhh, the old "anonymous source" story. Gotta love tabloid journalism. And right wing tabloid journalism to boot.

I'm not saying Hillary didn't shed a few tears, but the link in the op is proof of nothing.

a reply to: brutus61

Typical...everyone else is to blame except herself.

What a bloody lucky escape you had America (and the rest of us too).

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Well, again, Comey may have been playing his cards very (very) carefully. His survival at the FBI will depend on how he responds to Trump explaining his actions. As painful as it is to contemplate, what Comey did may have been pretty smart in the end (in both incidents).

A couple data points here; first, if Comey would have indicted Clinton on the first go around of the classified emails he would not have been able to go public with the details surrounding the possible indictment other than to say there was one. With the finding of no basis for indictment, Comey was able to go public and into far more detail about the findings. He would not have been able to do this if there had been an indictment.

The second failure to indict is quite a bit murkier. Again, it afforded him the opportunity to talk about it in public. However, he was far more tight lipped the second time around, issuing his findings in a short statement on a slow news day Sunday afternoon. If the true message here was 'there's definitely something to this, but we just don't have the hard evidence for a conviction yet' then he probably saved his skin. The strategy here may have been to put something out there right before the election and then pull it right back off the table again so as not to appear to be interfering with the election (something the FBI has been reluctant to do in the past).

It will be interesting to see how Trump plays this. There's no doubt Comey was in a "no-win" situation.

In my opinion, I think Trump's best play is to leave this dog lie for a while and get on with other more pressing matters first. If he dives right in and goes after Clinton like a bulldog he will come off looking vengeful, and he will play right into the hands to the liberal left's view of him standing for 'hate'.

a reply to: openyourmind1262

She has to be charged & convicted in order to be pardoned

This is not entirely true (see my post above). It hasn't happened a lot in the past, but it has happened.

I do not think Hillary will ever go to jail for crimes she committed. President Obama will pardon her. She has so much disdain for the American public. She never saw or conceived of the idea. That most Americans do not want a criminal running the country. Everyone in DC just did not take into account that we have watched what the Clinton's have been doing for 30 years. The general public just was fed up with their lies and activities.