Ladies; Get Your Birth Control NOW While You Still Can

a reply to: carewemust

Meanwhile pills to get an erection (Viagra) are still covered by insurance.

originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: carewemust

Meanwhile pills to get an erection (Viagra) are still covered by insurance.

Are arousal methods MANDATED by Obamacare? I have no experience with that subject.

a reply to: windword

Under Trump, I have experienced no difficulties getting birth control. Surprise.

a reply to: carewemust

Arousal "methods"?

No, it's called erectile dysfunction, it means you cannot get an erection. Viagra increases blood flow to that part of the male body to facilitate an erection.

And yes, the ACA covers erectile dysfunction. It depends on what plan you have and what specific medications for ED the prescription coverage will pay for.

a reply to: carewemust

first, this doesn't eliminate the requirement from all employers, just those that have a religious objection to it...
so I doubt if it's gonna have much effect when it comes to costs..

but, let's look at all the other things that is required by obmamcare...

these are just some...

"The services required to be covered without cost-sharing include screening for depression, diabetes, cholesterol, obesity, various cancers, HIV and sexually transmitted infections (STIs), as well as counseling for drug and tobacco use, healthy eating, and other common health concerns."

"These guidelines require coverage for adults and children and include immunizations such as influenza, meningitis, tetanus, HPV, hepatitis A and B, measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella. An ACIP recommendation is considered to be issued on the date that it is adopted by the Director of the CDC."

"The preventive services to be covered for children and adolescents include some of the immunization and screening services described in the previous two categories, behavioral and developmental assessments, iron and fluoride supplements, and screening for autism, vision impairment, lipid disorders, tuberculosis, and certain genetic diseases."

"Based on recommendations by a committee of the Institute of Medicine (IOM),8 federal regulations require new private plans to cover additional preventive services without cost-sharing for women, including well-woman visits, all FDA-approved contraceptives and related services, broader screening and counseling for STIs and HIV, breastfeeding support and supplies, and domestic violence screening."

kff.org...

the motivation for trump's to effectively remove the birth control from the mandate has nothing to do with reducing costs and probably everything in trying to "protect religious rights" in such a way that it will probably remove birth control coverage from the majority of insurance policies.

and as far as you argument that it makes insurance cheaper for all, well, out of all that list of mandated care, there's plenty in there that is much more costly than birth control!! to be honest, I see it as kind of an insult to women really..
it kind of sends the message that women's healthcare just isn't as worthy.

spacing the time between pregnancies IS HEALTHIER FOR WOMEN!! and for some women it's just as important as the flu vaccines, the flouride supplements, ect... that would be left intact.
and could be paid for by those who want them!!

originally posted by: Ameilia
a reply to: windword

Under Trump, I have experienced no difficulties getting birth control. Surprise.

That's because the ACA repeal hasn't kicked in yet!

originally posted by: carewemust
May 31, 2017

The Trump Administration is preparing the essentially get rid of the "Birth Control Mandate" that ObamaCare imposes on all Employer-provided health insurance.

Source: www.vox.com...

What I don't understand is WHY women would be so up in arms if their Employer-provided health insurance stopped paying for birth control. If you want it, you can buy it. All it does is raise the insurance cost for EVERYBODY when there's a mandate that a service/product be provided free of charge.

I didn't post this info as it is a "leaked" document that may or may not reflect the actual document that Trump eventually signs. I'll wait and see what actually sticks before I say "I told you so!"

As to your question, women shouldn't have to see a separate doctor than the one that does her annual pelvic exam and pap smear to get a prescription for advice on birth control.

a reply to: windword

not to mention, those pap smears, ect are usually done at the same time as birth control is discussed and prescribed.
eliminating birth control from insurance could possibly make it so that women have the choice of paying for those pap smears, ect out of pocket since the visit also inclused birth control, or visiting the doctor a second time for the birth control.

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: Ameilia
a reply to: windword

Under Trump, I have experienced no difficulties getting birth control. Surprise.

That's because the ACA repeal hasn't kicked in yet!

I'm not on the ACA. It has nothing to do with my birth control. Repealing it will not affect birth control pill availability.

a reply to: Ameilia


The Affordable Care Act, the ACA, mandates that your insurance company cover your birth control, at no extra charge, regardless of who you're insured with. If you have good enough insurance and/or a trustworthy employer, the repeal shouldn't really affect your birth control coverage.

a reply to: windword

here's the humorous part....

the seem to be pointing at all those planned parenthood clinics as a justification...
the mandate isn't needed....

"There are multiple Federal, state, and local programs that provide free or subsidized contraceptives for low-income women, including Medicaid (with a 90% Federal match for family planning services), Title X, health center grants, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. According to the Guttmacher Institute, government-subsidized family planning services are provided at 8,409 health centers overall. Various state programs supplement Federal programs, and 28 states have their own mandates of contraceptive coverage as a matter of state law. For example, the Title X program, administered by the HHS Office of Population Affairs (OPA), provides voluntary family planning information and services for clients based on their ability to pay.

...

"The availability of such programs to serve the most at-risk women identified by IOM [Institute of Medicine, now known as the National Academy of Medicine] diminishes the Government's interest in applying the Mandate to objecting employers."

www.motherjones.com...

over 800 of those 8,409 clinics they are mentioning are planned parenthood clinics which they are doing everything they can to defund!! and, well, not every women who is enjoying their birth control through their insurance now is considered low income...
so we are back to why is birth control coverage being singled out.
why is religious and moral beliefs about birth control held above other moral convictions and religious beliefs that gov't mandates and company policies routinely contradict? and, just who, or what those constitutional rights were granted to? were they granted to the people, or businesses? ya see, I can also see where some women, many women might feel a moral conviction to not become pregnant and therefor use birth control...

a reply to: dawnstar


Right!? What about Christians, like Jehovah's Witnesses, who don't approve of blood transfusions! What about their religious rights to deny health care to sinners and non-believers!

a reply to: windword

who says that this will be contained to healthcare.
should an employer be able to deny their employees breaks because he has a moral conviction about letting them spend time in the break room mingling with the opposite sex or whatever? or just refuse to hire women because well, we all know their place is in the home, caring for children.

birth control cost 5 bucks, if you can't afford that then you shouldn't be having sex.

It's a slippery slope when it comes to government mandated benefits of any kind. WindWord makes a good point, about every Religion wanting something, if Christians are appeased.

I think government requirements should force health insurers to "do no harm", but the type of benefits in the contract should be between the insurer and the purchaser of the insurance.

a reply to: xstealth


Oh! Thanks for MANSPLAINING everything to us ladies!

originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: carewemust

Arousal "methods"?

No, it's called erectile dysfunction, it means you cannot get an erection. Viagra increases blood flow to that part of the male body to facilitate an erection.

And yes, the ACA covers erectile dysfunction. It depends on what plan you have and what specific medications for ED the prescription coverage will pay for.

How do you prove to your doctor that you can't get an erection? He/she plays an x-rated movie and observes the results??

a reply to: xstealth

and what type of birth control is that??
not only are some types of birth control more effective than others, but not every woman can use every type of birth control. the trick is to match the most effective type according to the needs of the women...
if the women has already grown her family to the size she wished, then the best choice would be sterilization...
and no, you can get a tubal for $5 dollars!!!

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1. seems to me that this thread is about birth control and a women on birth control is less likely to want or need an abortion.
2. being able to space births apart not only produces healthier women in the long run but also HEALTHIER CHILDREN!!
3. I'm a widow who is not even interested in striking up a relationship with any man, but ya, I miss my cat who died recently and will probably get another one someday!
4..... turning to insults on discussion threads is a tactic of a LOSER!!