Disabled boy kicked out of Trump rally, next day he met Obama

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: lSkrewloosel

I do think the parents should be investigated for child abuse.

LOL. Apparently you don't believe in Freedom of Speech and that pesky Constitution either. This also does not surprise me.

You need to read the first amendment again. It protects you from the government, not the people. It ensures you will not go to jail for speaking your mind. It does not protect you while you disrupt a private event. The mother and son team came there as agitators. They knew they would be kicked out. When they were told to leave, they would be considered trespassers. By not leaving immediately, they were breaking an actual law. The mother brought her 12 yo son to a private event to cause agitation and knowingly breaking the law.

Whatever she claims the trump supporters did to her is questionable after such revelations. Without video of some abuse, her accusations are invalid.

originally posted by: UKTruth

You are right on one thing - I showed a video (that you could not be bothered to look for) that showed nothing.

How on Earth you can determine what happened to the extent of saying it "proves" anything from that 2 second clip is beyond me.

Maybe you could find something that actually shows something to support your claims.

How about the article in the OP that you have yet to successfully refute? 2 seconds of video that doesnt show enough to prove anything is NOT good enough.

a reply to: UKTruth

He can't because, he can only harp on what you haven't said.

Ok time to get organized...

Where did all Krispies followers go? Damnit!@@@##$$

You can't make people come in here and then not offer them services like bathroom facilities. Just like an anti trumper to offer non services... #e!

originally posted by: Woodcarver

You need to read the second amendment again.

www.law.cornell.edu...

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

OK, done. Read. Please explain what that has to do with ANYTHING in this thread?

a reply to: JesusXst

I haven't seen any evidence from you either that the article or OP is false or misleading. Only insults and deflections.

Where is your evidence hmmm???

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: UKTruth

You are right on one thing - I showed a video (that you could not be bothered to look for) that showed nothing.

How on Earth you can determine what happened to the extent of saying it "proves" anything from that 2 second clip is beyond me.

Maybe you could find something that actually shows something to support your claims.

How about the article in the OP that you have yet to successfully refute? 2 seconds of video that doesnt show enough to prove anything is NOT good enough.

No, I am showing a video that does NOT show what you are claiming. I have not claimed that it proves or disproves anything. They are all your words - lies to deflect.

Now come on, show some proof of your claims, or is a pic of Obama with the child and a mothers claim all the proof you need to attack trump and his supporters?

a reply to: UKTruth

Funny how 2 seconds isn't enough time to show anything isn't it?

I provided my evidence in the OP. You have provided NOTHING to refute it.

Keep digging that hole of depravity though.

a reply to: Kryties

i posted the entire event. In fact i have had it streaming the entire time, and have yet to even hear the incident going down as it did. Let me try this again.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: Kryties

I guess I have to do everything myself??

Wow the only 3 videos on youtube with Trump and the kids name, nothing to back up this bull# allegation.

How about the full two hour event in Tampa?? Care to find the incident for me???

if it went down like your article claims, Trump starts at 1:26.40 . make it so!

originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: UKTruth

Funny how 2 seconds isn't enough time to show anything isn't it?

Feel free to post something else that proves your claims. I'd be delighted to see it.

Here is one of your claims from this thread:

A disabled kid goes to a rally and exercises his Constitutionally-protected right (you know that bit of paper you all love so much called the Constitution right?) to free speech and gets mobbed by angry protestors who kicked and pushed his wheelchair around and abused him.

Evidence please.

I'd hate for you to be a judge, lol.
"Now, Sir, you have been accused of murder, prove you didn't do it or you're going to the chair!"

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: Woodcarver

You need to read the second amendment again.

www.law.cornell.edu...

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

OK, done. Read. Please explain what that has to do with ANYTHING in this thread?

My mistake. Now please explain how the first amendment protects this mother and son team. While they set out to disrupt a private event. You only mentioned how their freedom of speech was being taken away like 16 times in this thread.

originally posted by: UKTruth


Feel free to post something else that proves your claims. I'd be delighted to see it.

No. I posted my evidence now it's time to pony up yours and STOP DEFLECTING.

a reply to: Woodcarver

You're the Constitutional expert and all, you tell me again how it doesn't. Try getting the correct amendment first.

Then perhaps you could address the ACTUAL TOPIC which is the deplorable way that the Trump supporters treated him, regardless of free speech. Do you agree with kicking and abusing disabled people with cerebral palsy and sexually harassing their mothers by yelling out "Grab her pussy"?

What was your evidence? I only saw the OP as presented as evidence. That was a news story from a far left source which only used anecdote and story telling. I saw no video of abuse.

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: UKTruth


Feel free to post something else that proves your claims. I'd be delighted to see it.

No. I posted my evidence now it's time to pony up yours and STOP DEFLECTING.

What bit don't you understand?
I need to provide no evidence because I am not making the claim that, quote:

A disabled kid goes to a rally and exercises his Constitutionally-protected right (you know that bit of paper you all love so much called the Constitution right?) to free speech and gets mobbed by angry protestors who kicked and pushed his wheelchair around and abused him.

So far you have provided a picture of Obama with a disabled kid and an accusation from the child's mother.
This proves nothing even close to your claims.

Now. Seriously. Evidence please. You still have time to rescue yourself by providing something of substance to support your claims of a really quite disgusting set of claimed events.

“It wasn’t that loud,” she said about his chants, adding, “Trump was laughing about how his supporters drown out JJ. So my daughters and I started chanting.”

At the same time, Alison Holmes said, Trump supporters near them started pushing her son’s wheelchair, and calling her a “child abuser” and telling others to “grab her p—y.” The boy and his family were escorted from the arena, she said.

“I thought we may get kicked out,” she said. “I didn’t think they’d start shoving his wheelchair.”

www.washingtonpost.com... ma/

One of these things is not like the other.

originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: Woodcarver

You're the Constitutional expert and all, you tell me again how it doesn't. Try getting the correct amendment first.

Then perhaps you could address the ACTUAL TOPIC which is the deplorable way that the Trump supporters treated him, regardless of free speech. Do you agree with kicking and abusing disabled people with cerebral palsy and sexually harassing their mothers by yelling out "Grab her pussy"?

The first does not protect their actions because they were at a private event. That's how it doesn't.

I saw no video of abuse.
if there is video of people kicking the kids chair or molesting the mother, i would fully endorse charges being raised against the abusers.

a reply to: Kryties

Nobody was kicked and abused. This story has grown three heads since the initial report on Saturday. Mah Gaawd

originally posted by: Woodcarver
What was your evidence? I only saw the OP as presented as evidence.

Yes. Evidence. Something only I seem to be bothered to provide while others deflect, lie and change the topic rather than providing theres.

That was a news story from a far left source which only used anecdote and story telling. I saw no video of abuse.

Ask UKTruth. He reckoned he had proof it was false, yet showed a 2 second clip that proved nothing either way EXCEPT for the the fact that mother and kid actually did go to the Trump rally.

That's pretty much the standard of proof thats been coming in around here, nothing. Nothing, except for the OPINIONS of others on the source that still doesn't actually prove or disprove that the incident took place. Instead it's just more deflection.

Is this an episode of South Park?

*rolls eyes*

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Kryties

Nobody was kicked and abused. This story has grown three heads since the initial report on Saturday. Mah Gaawd

From the article linked in the OP that nobody seems to have been bothered to actually READ:

www.smh.com.au...

At the same time, Alison Holmes said, Trump supporters near them started pushing her son's wheelchair, and calling her a "child abuser" and telling others to "grab her p--y." The boy and his family were escorted from the arena, she said.

"I thought we may get kicked out," she said. "I didn't think they'd start shoving his wheelchair."

Some people also criticised Holmes for taking her son to the rally, accusing her of using him to protest. "He's not some puppet I wheeled in there," Holmes said. "This was him - this was all him."