Nato puts 300,000 troops on ‘HIGH ALERT’ amid fears of all out confrontation with Russia

a reply to: Profusion

TPTB aka the bankers and military industrial complex cannot allow full blown nuclear conflict to occur down to the fact that the result would be in no way synonymous with "there" method of control over our respective populations.

Fact is its rather hard to accumulate profit, power and maintain control when the worlds infrastructure and respective populations are destroyed beyond repair.

The old saying springs to mind "You cannot get blood from a stone". Well you cannot get blood, profit and power from an irradiated snowball ether, which is exactly what our world would become should we ever unleash the might of our nuclear arsenals on one another.

originally posted by: grayghost
OP you just can't let it go can you?
And where are the mods?
A long time ago you would lose your account.

Why exactly would one lose their account for posting on topic posts in the relevant forums?

God ATS HAS changed since I was last posting here 🙈

a reply to: Profusion

With due respect something this large would have made the news since something involving 300,000 would be noticed. There is nothing on NATO's website about it and there are no comments from Jens Stoltenberg on the topic.

There is, however, an emergency drill taking place in the Balkans involving like 800 NATO personnel. It is in response to Russia holding drills in the region.

NATO, Russia to hold parallel military drills in the Balkans

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Profusion

TPTB aka the bankers and military industrial complex cannot allow full blown nuclear conflict to occur down to the fact that the result would be in no way synonymous with "there" method of control over our respective populations.

Fact is its rather hard to accumulate profit, power and maintain control when the worlds infrastructure and respective populations are destroyed beyond repair.

The old saying springs to mind "You cannot get blood from a stone". Well you cannot get blood, profit and power from an irradiated snowball ether, which is exactly what our world would become should we aver unleash the might of our nuclear arsenals on one another.

Best and most on point and rational counter argument to the Nuclear War scenario. Starred.

However my counter argument to this is, it's the perfect answer IF "TPTB" Were all still about money and power in this Dreamality. If it's about moving on to the next, nukes may in fact be the answer.

@Profusion:

I've been keeping up with all your posts and quite frankly appreciate the updates I see from you.
I do agree that nuclear war is a definite possibility and that unless they SOMEHOW finagle everything and put "plan x" off for another 4 years due to this being a 2 term presidency nation now, we may, in fact, see things happening very soon.

However, I have to agree with others that you too frequently abandon the posts you make. It's important to be able to support your theories within your posts and stick with them at least a few days each. It's easy to tell when others aren't following up and you can let it go then, but I'm afraid you come off as ?undedicated? to your topics.
Myself, I've re-considered posting on your threads before, simply because I question whether you'll bother to read them.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Profusion

With due respect something this large would have made the news since something involving 300,000 would be noticed. There is nothing on NATO's website about it and there are no comments from Jens Stoltenberg on the topic.

Apparently the source of the information is an interview that Jens Stoltenberg did with The Times. It's being reported that way in multiple news reports as you can see below.

The Times said that although Stoltenberg did not provide exact figures, Sir Adam Thomson, the UK's outgoing permanent representative to Nato, said that he believed the target is to hasten the response time of up to 300,000 military personnel to about two months.
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Stoltenberg told The Times: "We have seen Russia being much more active in many different ways. We have seen a more assertive Russia implementing a substantial military build-up over many years; tripling defence spending since 2000 in real terms; developing new military capabilities; exercising their forces and using military force against neighbours."
LINK

a reply to: Profusion

The relevant phrase is: "the target is to hasten the response time of up to 300,000 military personnel to about two months." They are not mobilizing 300,000 troops, they are working on making the logistics of mobilization more efficient.

a reply to: Profusion

The articles you linked make sense however the op article / headline is sensationalized. What they are talking about is ramping up their ability to deploy / field a large force. To deploy 300k troops now would require 6 months. They want to try to get it down to 2 months.

The rapid response force is something NATO talked about after the Crimea occupation. A force of 40,000 NATO soldiers able to be deployed in a very short amount of time.

NATO has not increased their alert level in terms of a war footing. They are talking about the deployment time needed for 300k troops and how an increase in their alert status would reduce deployment time from 6 down to 2 months. Also there is no increase in NATO ground forces. Even the 40k reaction force is made of current units and is not an increase but a reorganization.

In other words they are tweaking their defense status / posture.

oh! look at the timing!
what if the troops are for America?
If She wins all hell cound brake lose.

Time to get into the body bag business me thinks. The question is, Will 300,000 be enough.?

The Germans tried and failed with circa 4 million men, of which 2.7 million died. These numbers are dwarfed by the 11.4 million missing and killed Soviet soldiers. The Russians still managed to push all the way to Berlin and raise the hammer and sickle over the reichstag.

I dont believe 300,000 will be anywhere near enough. Russia would simple over run anyone who got in the way.

Don't worry in another 3 to 4 years this thread will be up with another doomsday story headline of massive deployments to the pacific in "keyword FEARS" of Chinese aggression and all out conflict.

This satire never gets old.

I should really get into the war profiteering business. I have some shiny new weapons to sell you that no other country has. "they probably do but I will never tell you that."

Buy at least 100,000 crates from me today and you will receive 20% off your next arms shipment!

a reply to: 4N0M4LY

Your trolling powers are second to none. You've already stated you're sick of topics of the WW3 scenario so one must ask why it is you stick around in this forum?

I can only assume it's to troll & give stick to people which I'm pretty sure is against forum rules.

a reply to: TemporalMental

Only if TPTB wish to retard humanities progress for the next 10,000 odd years or so.

"They" would essentially be starting again in an iron age type pre industrial era with contaminated food stuffs/water supplies, not to mention the irradiated land, atmosphere, and mini ice age that we would also have to contend with.

There is no foreseeable next human epoch when progress and history are stopped dead in there tracks for millenia.

You cant ride out such conditions, even in a DUMB.

originally posted by: TemporalMental
a reply to: 4N0M4LY

Your trolling powers are second to none. You've already stated you're sick of topics of the WW3 scenario so one must ask why it is you stick around in this forum?

I can only assume it's to troll & give stick to people which I'm pretty sure is against forum rules.

Sucks that you are offended but I really don't care. Anyone who has seen history would tell you wars come and go all the time, this isn't anything new. Just would be nice to Actually see some good intel about SHTF. I can go when I am ready, feel free to keep replying to my posts and you will see me more often.

a reply to: Oldtimer2

Perhaps she is copying Nixons Madman theory.
en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: 4N0M4LYSucks that you are offended but I really don't care. Anyone who has seen history would tell you wars come and go all the time, this isn't anything new. Just would be nice to Actually see some good intel about SHTF. I can go when I am ready, feel free to keep replying to my posts and you will see me more often.

Nothing you've said offends me sir, but you have told me everything I need to know about your good self, your level of maturity and incapability to debate and discuss on a level and your lack of communicative definition. You carry on with that 👍

Good day to you😃

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TemporalMental

Only if TPTB wish to retard humanities progress for the next 10,000 odd years or so.

"They" would essentially be starting again in an iron age type pre industrial era with contaminated food stuffs/water supplies, not to mention the irradiated land, atmosphere, and mini ice age that we would also have to contend with.

There is no foreseeable next human epoch when progress and history are stopped dead in there tracks for millenia.

You cant ride out such conditions, even in a DUMB.

Although everything you have said here is reasonable and valid it is also an opinion. Nobody can truly know what the next Dreamality holds for any of us. Unless you're talking about the outcome on this level of Earth after such cataclysms which I'm not.

However you have definitely got an extremely valid argument if there isn't another level🔥

a reply to: Profusion

The can not help it.
Part of propaganda tactics is to rubbish the other sides media.

a reply to: TemporalMental

If you really believe that about people. More power to you. I love when people assume things LOL

originally posted by: joho99
a reply to: Profusion

The can not help it.
Part of propaganda tactics is to rubbish the other sides media.

Except in this case the OP article / headline are sensationalized and dont reflect the facts accurately. The 2 other sources Profusion linked are accurate and they dont say the same thing as the op.