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originally posted by: eisegesis
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
Um.... okay?
Because rally attendance scientifically represents the voting population?
Also.. their amount of Rallies are no where near quality so comparing the total attendance doesn't mean anything.
From your thread titled,
Hillary Clinton Met With Mass Applause In Cleveland Ohio Jay-Z Concert
The crowd went insane. There had to be 20-30,000 in attendance easily... seeing as how all my friends are back home its all over my social media feeds. Apparently she gave quite the speech...
She even quoted some Jay-Z lyrics in her address... I know this sounds crazy.. but Cleveland is the driving force of Ohio.. this could really swing the tides back in her favor... it was genius...
"Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do!"
Do rally attendance numbers have an effect or not?
originally posted by: jellyrev
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
Um.... okay?
Because rally attendance scientifically represents the voting population?
Also.. their amount of Rallies are no where near quality so comparing the total attendance doesn't mean anything.
You want to see a real worthwhile statistic... look at the Total Primary Popular Vote numbers
Hillary faced Bernie.. a much tougher opponent and STILL amassed a higher popular vote total than Trump. That's proof in itself.. that's actually voting numbers
Is it not accepted fact that it was rigged against bernie? who knows the true vote totals.
originally posted by: CrapAsUsual
a reply to: Byrd
In the lighjt of a recently leaked email from Eric Schmidt (google
s ceo) where he outlines a campaign strategy and disclose a digital platform to track voters according to their political preferences, its possible that her campaign was targeting the undecided, they would know more less who they are.
But yes, replying to the people who questioned the reasons for the post. Will such a vocal crowd accept a defeat if they feel the´ve been cheated?
originally posted by: Byrd
a reply to: CrapAsUsual
I noticed that while Trump was at big "WE LOVE YOU!" rallies, Clinton was working smaller venues of undecided and "likely" voters rather than playing to the crowd.
I think that's a better strategy.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Picklesneeze
False.
But I guess that it's a good thing that the 6 billion dollars that came up missing under hilary's watch
originally posted by: CrapAsUsual
a reply to: Byrd
In the lighjt of a recently leaked email from Eric Schmidt (google
s ceo) where he outlines a campaign strategy and disclose a digital platform to track voters according to their political preferences, its possible that her campaign was targeting the undecided, they would know more less who they are.
But yes, replying to the people who questioned the reasons for the post. Will such a vocal crowd accept a defeat if they feel the´ve been cheated?
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Violater1
we have had this discussion before.
In all likelihood, yes. Because it is an oft stated claim, the one about $6 billion. The one about the letter.
My source is the letter from the OIG.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Lucidparadox
However, Obama supporters sure did go to rallies with the same type of enthusiasm that Trump supporters display now, and I remember how the media treated him because of it.
All those pictures with the halos and the pseudo religious posturing ... the idea that he was the new progressive Lincoln or even Reagan ... because his apparent popularity and enthusiasm seemed to indicate a popularity reaching those levels.
But now suddenly attendance at rallies and apparent popularity suddenly means nothing because Hillary doesn't have it.
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
originally posted by: eisegesis
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
Um.... okay?
Because rally attendance scientifically represents the voting population?
Also.. their amount of Rallies are no where near quality so comparing the total attendance doesn't mean anything.
From your thread titled,
Hillary Clinton Met With Mass Applause In Cleveland Ohio Jay-Z Concert
The crowd went insane. There had to be 20-30,000 in attendance easily... seeing as how all my friends are back home its all over my social media feeds. Apparently she gave quite the speech...
She even quoted some Jay-Z lyrics in her address... I know this sounds crazy.. but Cleveland is the driving force of Ohio.. this could really swing the tides back in her favor... it was genius...
"Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do!"
Do rally attendance numbers have an effect or not?
Gladly!
This actually falls in line with exactly what I've been saying. Hillary has more support but an un-motivated voter base. That concert will boost her voter turnout amongst people who were not originally going to vote.. because as many replied to me...
More people were there for the concert than her. Therfore is was advertising to people who didn't have the product.
People at Trump rallies are people who are already voting for him.
That's how the two different. Trump is catering to his base with his Rallys... while Hillary is reaching out to non voters
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Lucidparadox
However, Obama supporters sure did go to rallies with the same type of enthusiasm that Trump supporters display now, and I remember how the media treated him because of it.
All those pictures with the halos and the pseudo religious posturing ... the idea that he was the new progressive Lincoln or even Reagan ... because his apparent popularity and enthusiasm seemed to indicate a popularity reaching those levels.
But now suddenly attendance at rallies and apparent popularity suddenly means nothing because Hillary doesn't have it.
Okay I will gladly explain
Obama had enthusiasm, AND he had turnout.
Trump has enthusiasm, but his turnout doesn't match it.
Hillary doesn't have enthusiasm... yet her turnout exceeds it.
Hillary had a much tougher opponent in the primary in revolutionary Bernie Sanders.. Trump had a slice of cheesecake..
The Democratic primary turnout was larger than the GOPs... and the Democratic population is larger..
Hillary's total primary popular vote was higher.
Half of the GOP un-endorsed Trump.. and it shows in his actual voting numbers aside from what goes on in his rallies...