I am a black woman - who to vote for?

a reply to: pirhanna
The problem is "first past the post" voting system.It's a flawed election system that excludes third parties and always creates a two party system.

END FIRST PAST TO POST ELECTIONS.

There is hope. Maine has an "instant run off" voting system on the ballot.

on topic.

If your a progressive vote for Jill Stein.

If your a moderate vote for Gary Johnson.

originally posted by: In4ormant
I'd say Hillary but she's the devil.
I'd say Trump but he's a jackass.
I'd say Bernie but he's a fraud.
I'd say 3rd party but why bother.

Stay home and then you can deny playing any role in the next 4 years of dumbassery.

bad move jackson.
you vote to vote for things that matter. local and state elections.
ordinances that are up and could improve your town or state.

just ignore the federal election. write in Mickey Mouse
But voting isn't just about the potus..thats basically she sideshow.

People vote the way way they do for all different kinds of reasons-
Do you vote for what you think is best for you or your country?
or your race, sex, disability-effect on the economy-or morals?
The list goes on ad on-and its very personal.
What's most important to you? That's a real personal and important decision that is private.
If you define yourself most in your terms of race and sex-then the decision should be easy for you.

originally posted by: Justso
People vote the way way they do for all different kinds of reasons-
Do you vote for what you think is best for you or your country?
or your race, sex, disability-effect on the economy-or morals?
The list goes on ad on-and its very personal.
What's most important to you? That's a real personal and important decision that is private.
If you define yourself most in your terms of race and sex-then the decision should be easy for you.

Another view that is perfectly valid is how other nations in the global community views the candidate.
This was a slam dunk area for Obama. people seen how he talked and liked it..especially after Bush.

As far as Trump and Clinton...tough one.
Lots of international ppl really...really dislike Trump, however, Clinton is starting to be seen as just a corrupt politician. This effects tourism of course on how a foreigner will view the US through its leaders...so its something to consider.

a reply to: shipman

Look at who is offering what step back from party affiliation for a min, asked yourself who these candidates are aligned with, can you trust them..well that goes without saying you should never really trust any Pols, but who would most likely do a good job of running the country and not into the ground.

Not having a pony in this race , but up front in the grandstands close enough to smell them as they pass, I'll give you my unbiased opinion.
TRUMP - Never liked the apprentice. He just made people sell # really, too much drama. Not enough learning the ropes of business ( he's right though - his daughter is kinda hot) . The guys a blowhard buffoon, bit of a womanizer ( Kennedy was too ), probably has stretched the tax laws to Gumby proportions ( don't we wish we all could do this?) and has Teflon hair. He's the million to one bet that actually may pay off. I don't think he has any malice as much as monkey brain. But you can train a monkey ( just look at G.W. Bush). The government is not just one individual. The president has advisors and people to consult. Good businessmen use these people to hopefully make the right choice to maximize investment in a morally correct manner. Different mindset than a lawyer to deal with the globalist agenda.
CLINTON - never liked slick willy. The guy just made my skin crawl ( in pedo kinda way). Messed up your country buying into globalist agenda ( just like BOTH Bushes - whom are in the friends circle ). She as first lady took full advantage to eat her way to the top. Lawyers are lairs - that's the nature of their beast ( that's why businessmen hire them to deal with the Tax feds ). They make terrible politicians because it's all about the power and money and their deeds justify their endgames. They have no loyalty to none but themselves. Billery are in this not for God and country, but dollars and patronage. They are full of malice and their actions prove it. She is the most clear and present danger to WORLD security we've seen in a longtime. But wars the machine that that globalists must keep greasing to hide the fact that they have no loyalty or common sense to run their country. She's been sucking the public coffers for decades - and doling it out to her like ilk in crime.

As for not voting ... I'm very grateful to have the PRIVILEGED to vote bestowed upon me by the blood of my countrymen. It's not a right - it was paid for by ultimate sacrifice. Use it in good conscience.

originally posted by: shipman
Oh I know, Clinton because she and the MSM told me to, even though they don`t tell me her policies, but that she and MSM say is a woman, a mother blah, blah, blah.....

Yuk to these elections. Give me something to work with.

A couple of things you should do...Check out some of the numerous black folks who are now supporting Trump and if you can, ask them why...Unlike Hillary supporters they will be happy to tell you why they switched to Trump...See if what they say makes sense to you...

Next, take a look at yourself, your family and your neighbors and question whether you are better or worse off than you were 8 years ago...Also, try to remember the promises Obama made years ago and determine if he told the truth about any of them...And remember that Hillary says she will continue the policies of Obama...

You might also want to actually listen to what Trump says in his speeches...He knows the black people are suffering the most when it comes to jobs and gangs...Unlike Hillary, he has a plan to fix both of those problems...

a reply to: Iscool

Don't forget to ask them why is the Trump camp full of Nazis And Klan members.

originally posted by: kurthall
Although. Both are horrible, yopu have to piock who you feel is thee lesser of two evils. Who I am voting for and why is Hilary. Why?

First and fomost she has the proper intelect and EXPERIENCE to run the country! As a women you should research how Trump treats and thinks of women! He thinks of women as objects! He does not understand world politics at all, including the use of nuclear weapons.

To be president you have to have the proper TEMPERAMENT, which repeatedly Donald has shown he does not! The past few weeks he has chilled, but that is I am sure hois staff told him he was being an ass and acting like a joke....see how many times during the debate he interrupted, and repeated himself!

Anyway, just watch the debates, he has NO real plan. Hilary talks about reforming health care, and keeping what works and amending what does not. Donald says we will just git rid of the affordable care act period. Its all or none with him, and that ain't how life works! He is irrational!!!!

BTW again Hilary is no pick nic, but She is capable of running the country, I do not at All feel Donald can! Ultimately its up to you and even if its Trump!

Very bad advice...Look what Hillary did to Egypt, Libya and Syria...She is currently supporting Al Qaeda AND ISIS in the middle east...She wants wide open borders with Mexico, Central and South America...Our Country will be flooded with millions upon millions more people...Think you had a hard time finding a job in the past??? You can forget about it if Hillary gets in...Plus, Hillary wants to put over 500% more unvetted muzlims into our Country...That's nuts...

Hillary has admitted that she will raise the taxes on the middle class...Hillary supports a One World Government where the United States will cease to exist as we know it...

And, there are millions upon millions of us who are convinced Trump will be an excellent President...

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: JesusXst

"Didn't work" in what way? Oh, you probably believe that one man is going to fix centuries of inequality in a 8 years right? With an obstructionist Congress controlled by the opposing party for 6 of those years.

Sounds legit.

Yes Trump will...Why??? Because we Trump supporters will put serious pressure on Congress like has never been done before to implement Trump's policies...

a reply to: shipman

It's beyond me to think a woman would support Trump when he clearly doesn't support women. Vowing to defund Planned Parenthood because they perform abortions, and suggesting the people he appoints will be able to overturn Roe v. Wade. There there is of course him essentially admitting to sexually assaulting women...

I'd say Hillary or third party. While I like one of the third party candidates the most, I'll be voting for Hillary simply because I think it's the best way to keep Trump out.

originally posted by: Iscool

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: JesusXst

"Didn't work" in what way? Oh, you probably believe that one man is going to fix centuries of inequality in a 8 years right? With an obstructionist Congress controlled by the opposing party for 6 of those years.

Sounds legit.

Yes Trump will...Why??? Because we Trump supporters will put serious pressure on Congress like has never been done before to implement Trump's policies...

No I don't believe you guys will ,so far if most of you here on ATS is a good sample of what's out there in Trump's world that never rebuke anything of the crazy racist sht he said , but defend or make excuses for him to the tee, he will simply bully his congress to go along with his madness , like he cowed them during the debates.

a reply to: Lucid Lunacy

So tribalism...got it. Pretty pathetic reasoning.

a reply to: ksiezyc

Sure.

originally posted by: notmyrealname
a reply to: kurthall

sorry to be curt, Kurt...

Hillary hasn't one single bit of experience "running" anything that isn't or hasn't been involved pre-or-post disclosed as corrupt.

Trump ran and runs many companies and employs many people.

How many people have ever been on Hillary's payroll and for what is the question you want to ask!

Hahaha Trump is the anti- golden boy just about everything he touches turned to sht.

1. Trump Airlines[.2. Trump beverages 3. Trump: The Game 4. Trump casinos 5. Trump magazine 6. Trump Mortgage 7. Trump Steaks 8. Trump's travel site 9. Trump's comms company 10. Trump Tower Tampa 11. Trump University 12. Trump Vodka 13. Lost future earnings from calling Mexicans rapists
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Klik the above for detail..

edit on 4-11-2016 by Spider879 because: (no reason given)

Look at their polocies not your skin colour.

I am a black woman who do I vote for ???

originally posted by: shipman
Oh I know, Clinton because she and the MSM told me to, even though they don`t tell me her policies, but that she and MSM say is a woman, a mother blah, blah, blah.....

Yuk to these elections. Give me something to work with.

I find your OP *racist* and *sexist*

I am a black woman Who do I vote for?

Your colour and sex are immaterial to your question

a reply to: shipman


Who ever you chose, it is jus a matter if you prefer flesh or silicone, i would start taking an enema of lube twice daily, you're gonna need it.

originally posted by: eletheia


I am a black woman who do I vote for ???

originally posted by: shipman
Oh I know, Clinton because she and the MSM told me to, even though they don`t tell me her policies, but that she and MSM say is a woman, a mother blah, blah, blah.....

Yuk to these elections. Give me something to work with.

I find your OP *racist* and *sexist*

I am a black woman Who do I vote for?

Your colour and sex are immaterial to your question

Maybe not matter to you ,but gender and " race' is still a thing, women still get paid on average lower than men doing the same Job ,they may want to know if plan parent hood will be scuttled etc, Blacks and Hispanics hate being stopped and frisked every fuking time they leave for work , that's just some of the issues that might be important to us.

originally posted by: Spider879

Maybe not matter to you ,but gender and " race' is still a thing, women still get paid on average lower than men doing the same Job ,they may want to know if plan parent hood will be scuttled etc, Blacks and Hispanics hate being stopped and frisked every fuking time they leave for work , that's just some of the issues that might be important to us.

Apologies I didn't realise that the US was behind the UK in closing the gender

pay gap.