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originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
I am an American who believes in being prepared for anything. Since I have been "Awake" since about 2005 I have been slowly prepping and training for the eventual breakdown of society. My family and friends are all invested in a large parcel of land and the means to survive their indefinitely. However my biggest fear is when SHTF I will not be able to make it to the rally point. Our land is about 6 hours outside of Phoenix in a difficult place to get to without a major 4 wheel drive vehicle. I don't even want to fathom the hike it would take from phoenix lol.
Now I am a daily carry guy. Whenever permitted I have a Sig p238 on my person. Where prohibited it sits in my car and I have never felt that I was in a situation I couldn't handle. Until recently. Lately I have been having this nagging feeling that when SHTF depending on where I am I might not have the time or the ability to go home and grab my gear. I have this feeling that if I am not ready to leave right then I will be a victim and not a survivor.
So I have taken it upon myself to start carrying my bugout stuff in my vehicle. So far I have my bag with some survival equipment food and water. I have my AR500 class 3 body armor and my PSA AR15 with about 120 rounds of ammo and my boots. My boots are prob my most important piece of equipment out here in the desert where every plant wants to shove a sharp spine through your converse all stars.
Does anybody else take these precautions? I have this feeling when Trump is elected president there will be mass rioting from the uneducated masses and a lot of innocent people will be caught with their pants down trying to get home to arm up. I feel this way I at least have half a chance.
originally posted by: musicismagic
originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
I am an American who believes in being prepared for anything. Since I have been "Awake" since about 2005 I have been slowly prepping and training for the eventual breakdown of society. My family and friends are all invested in a large parcel of land and the means to survive their indefinitely. However my biggest fear is when SHTF I will not be able to make it to the rally point. Our land is about 6 hours outside of Phoenix in a difficult place to get to without a major 4 wheel drive vehicle. I don't even want to fathom the hike it would take from phoenix lol.
Now I am a daily carry guy. Whenever permitted I have a Sig p238 on my person. Where prohibited it sits in my car and I have never felt that I was in a situation I couldn't handle. Until recently. Lately I have been having this nagging feeling that when SHTF depending on where I am I might not have the time or the ability to go home and grab my gear. I have this feeling that if I am not ready to leave right then I will be a victim and not a survivor.
So I have taken it upon myself to start carrying my bugout stuff in my vehicle. So far I have my bag with some survival equipment food and water. I have my AR500 class 3 body armor and my PSA AR15 with about 120 rounds of ammo and my boots. My boots are prob my most important piece of equipment out here in the desert where every plant wants to shove a sharp spine through your converse all stars.
Does anybody else take these precautions? I have this feeling when Trump is elected president there will be mass rioting from the uneducated masses and a lot of innocent people will be caught with their pants down trying to get home to arm up. I feel this way I at least have half a chance.
It is very possible that those in govt (US) may see and are preparing for a breakdown of social unrest. What preparations are now being taken? Don't know. Know one here has brought that up with firsthand participation in such exercises. The reality of it is, if you live in a city like Chicago, unless you and your family got some motorcycles to get out fast, one is doomed to the cycle of violence that will occur. I use Chicago as an example because I lived in Chicago and exits are few out of Chicago and downtown.
As far as a gun, its fine till you run out of bullets, but until then, ya a gun is it, but you really need a crossbow in the end, please remember that. As a hunter, you don't want to be hunted after you downed your evening game for dinner. Also, a pet dog is your best alert guard.
Hope this helps. And no, I really don't feel where I live, there is a break down of society, but then again, I'm not living in the States either.
originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
originally posted by: musicismagic
originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
I am an American who believes in being prepared for anything. Since I have been "Awake" since about 2005 I have been slowly prepping and training for the eventual breakdown of society. My family and friends are all invested in a large parcel of land and the means to survive their indefinitely. However my biggest fear is when SHTF I will not be able to make it to the rally point. Our land is about 6 hours outside of Phoenix in a difficult place to get to without a major 4 wheel drive vehicle. I don't even want to fathom the hike it would take from phoenix lol.
Now I am a daily carry guy. Whenever permitted I have a Sig p238 on my person. Where prohibited it sits in my car and I have never felt that I was in a situation I couldn't handle. Until recently. Lately I have been having this nagging feeling that when SHTF depending on where I am I might not have the time or the ability to go home and grab my gear. I have this feeling that if I am not ready to leave right then I will be a victim and not a survivor.
So I have taken it upon myself to start carrying my bugout stuff in my vehicle. So far I have my bag with some survival equipment food and water. I have my AR500 class 3 body armor and my PSA AR15 with about 120 rounds of ammo and my boots. My boots are prob my most important piece of equipment out here in the desert where every plant wants to shove a sharp spine through your converse all stars.
Does anybody else take these precautions? I have this feeling when Trump is elected president there will be mass rioting from the uneducated masses and a lot of innocent people will be caught with their pants down trying to get home to arm up. I feel this way I at least have half a chance.
It is very possible that those in govt (US) may see and are preparing for a breakdown of social unrest. What preparations are now being taken? Don't know. Know one here has brought that up with firsthand participation in such exercises. The reality of it is, if you live in a city like Chicago, unless you and your family got some motorcycles to get out fast, one is doomed to the cycle of violence that will occur. I use Chicago as an example because I lived in Chicago and exits are few out of Chicago and downtown.
As far as a gun, its fine till you run out of bullets, but until then, ya a gun is it, but you really need a crossbow in the end, please remember that. As a hunter, you don't want to be hunted after you downed your evening game for dinner. Also, a pet dog is your best alert guard.
Hope this helps. And no, I really don't feel where I live, there is a break down of society, but then again, I'm not living in the States either.
Dogs are man's best friend. My parents have 2 hunting GSP's and we are waiting on a litter from the bitch here soon and ill have my pick. I also have a Hoyt ZR 250 as my hunting bow but I keep it at the parcel of land. Good advice though. During the first couple of weeks after a collapse you wont want to do much shooting. People might hear and come looking.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: PraetorianAZ
I would suggest that you think twice about leaving all your stuff in your car, unless you have duplicates of all of it, still at home. Why? Because car theft and theft from cars is more common than house breaking in most places. Also, during riots and unrest, cars are often flipped over and/or torched, meaning that your gear could become inaccessible or destroyed before you can get back to your vehicle.
You are better off making sure that if you MUST carry that gear with you always, that you have spares at home. Also, if you are really concerned about this sort of stuff, it's your life that needs modification, not your in car load out. If you are genuinely worried about civil unrest, you should not be going so far from your house that you need a car to get where you are going, or that you could not be back home in five minutes flat. You need to be at your hardened position or near it at all times in moments of extreme tension.
originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
I am an American who believes in being prepared for anything.
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Lately I have been having this nagging feeling that when SHTF depending on where I am I might not have the time or the ability to go home and grab my gear. I have this feeling that if I am not ready to leave right then I will be a victim and not a survivor.
originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
I have my AR500 class 3 body armor and my PSA AR15 with about 120 rounds of ammo and my boots.
originally posted by: TrueAmerican
a reply to: TrueBrit
The thought in itself is ridiculous that people would literally riot over who becomes President. That ain't America. That's a devolved, third world banana supplier.