FIFA bans the poppy on England and Scotland shirts. Says they are political.

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Well, what's the betting this is some kind of payback from the fraudulent, money grubbing, corrupt reptiles that are a blight on the beautiful game?
The official line is that FIFA sees the poppy as a political thing.

I aint buying that. IT'S a mean spirited act of revenge for the home nation's part in lifting the lid on their corruption.

If our FA had any decency, our teams would be withdrawn from this competition.

pathetic is one word to describe these actions it's a sign of respect not a political symbol :/

Ban FIFA.

Seriously. It's a glorified mafia.

Finally, to hell with this disrespectful decisions.

We Brits buy and wear poppies to honour fallen soldiers, and the proceeds of poppy sales go to help veterans and the families of fallen soldiers.

Jesus Christ what a horrible thing that is!

Bollocks to you, FIFA.

a reply to: SprocketUK

FIFA can get in the bloody sea.

Here's the thing...We engage in rememberance not because of politics, but because of a desperate, cultural need never to forget those whose sacrifice allows us to be free today, nor the circumstances which lead to them having to make those sacrifices. We remember the dead because without their lives to learn from we can only make the same errors as were made in their time.

We remember those who fell in their thousands, because entire towns were emptied of all their menfolk by the First World War, something which must never happen again. We remember those who fought the Nazis in the Second World War, because such a power must never rise again anywhere without being countered and stamped out in kind. We remember these things not as a political statement, but because it would dishonour our ancestors to do anything else, than ensure that their sacrifices on our behalf are not for nothing. The only way to do that is to remember them, remember their suffering, remember their lives, and how and why they traded them for ours.

In short, to forget is to ensure the same errors are repeated. There are only two ways about it.

I hope the players just stick one on.
Our great great grandads fought and died for the right to play footie...how bloody dare they I'm a bit mad at this.
I suspect the public backlash will set them straight.
Will they attempt to stop the two minute silence also? NEVER!.

a reply to: TrueBrit

amen to that brother !

That is a bit cheeky, bunch of entitled assholes with no value for anything other than how much money they can stuff in their pockets. It wouldn't surprise me if it is to do with our part in exposing their corruption like SprocketUK said seems like the kind of rank underhand tactic an organisation like that would use

a reply to: SprocketUK

A symbol of remembrance which is then grabbed and politicised by millions.

This is how it began.

After the war was over, Michael returned to the University of Georgia and taught a class of disabled servicemen. Realizing the need to provide financial and occupational support for these servicemen, she pursued the idea of selling silk poppies as a means of raising funds to assist disabled veterans. In 1921, her efforts resulted in the poppy being adopted as a symbol of remembrance for war veterans by the American Legion Auxiliary, and by Earl Haig's British Legion Appeal Fund (later The Royal British Legion) later that year.

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2011 FIFA grumblings.

In November 2011, it was proposed that the England football team should wear poppies on their shirts in a match against Spain. However, FIFA turned down the proposal, saying it would "open the door to similar initiatives" across the world, "jeopardising the neutrality of football".[80] FIFA's decision was attacked by Prince William[81] and Prime Minister David Cameron, who said he would back any player who ignored the ban

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Reading through that Wikipedia page I'm awestruck by the number of different ways it can be used as a subject for bickering.

I don't see any way it can be proven to be political unless declared to be political by the wearer.

Claiming it's political when it hasn't been declared to be political is groundless speculation. It would open the door to similar initiatives.

a reply to: SprocketUK

Aye coz remembering our dead is completely political!

Nothing to do with the fact that we are remembering and supporting our fallen family members and friends.

Or by purchasing a Poppy directly donating to charity.

FIFA can bite it!

I suppose this is more a question of fear to lose advertising money than anything else, and if the sponsors of both teams added temporarily the poppy to their symbols FIFA wouldn't say a thing about it.

If I was a player I would put 5 on just to p1ss them off, its ridiculous.

You cant ban the poppy no way.

F U FIFA YOU BUNCH OF TOE RAGS.

Everyone wear poppy crowns to the games, made of the little paper and pipe cleaner poppy's like the ones the Vets give out here for charity money. I'm in the USA but I think that's embarrassing for FIFA to do that to those teams.

Wow...

-Alee

Well it may go against the sentiment of this thread but I think they are correct to ban it. If allowed then what next?

Anyway, has remembrance day done anything really? We are still a nation of war hawks happily supplying weapons to all and sundry. When I see politicians, the monarchy, media pundits and co wearing poppies it makes me want to puke.

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

I guess now that the large majority of the ww2 veterans are dead "they" [ tptb.that were not there to experience it] believe its time to whitewash over that terrible time in history so that the horror of a global conflict does not deter the support of prospective cannon fodder millenials.

How easy we forget.

a reply to: kountzero

It didn't deter anyone from bombing the # out of Iraq and Libya.

a reply to: midicon

Keep in mind that a lot of common everyday people also wear them, people who's husbands, fathers, grandfathers and even great grandfathers fought and died to protect our very way of life and ensure the security of not only our own nation but Europe and the rest of the world in general.

Remembrance serves a purpose, that purpose being so we don't forget what these people died for and end up repeating the same historical mistakes 50-100 years down the line.

As to the politicians, the monarchy and media pundits, yes they are all rather hypocritical to display or wear Poppy's, but they hardly constitute the majority of the people who support or wear the Poppy.

a reply to: andy06shake

Remembrance serves a purpose, that purpose being so we don't forget what these people died for and end up repeating the same historical mistakes 50-100 years down the line.

My father was shot and wounded in the second world war. My grandfather was a prisoner of war for four years. I am very much anti war.

I see no purpose really. It might have been a good thing if we as a nation somehow had taken up a path of peace. That is not what we are. We are a supplier and manufacturer of weapons and armaments...seems we haven't learned a thing from the whole poppy hypocrisy.

a reply to: SprocketUK

F""" FIFA - Keep on proudly wearing the Poppy.

Everyone should get forehead tattoos now.

Tired of this world loosing it's collective mind, we're either in the matrix, a ET simulation gone wrong or human beings are pretty dumb and selfish little toddlers.

I think it's the last one.

a reply to: midicon

Seems our politicians and banker scum have not learned anything.

Im well aware of the atrocity's and arms sales our nation is responsible for perpetrating across the globe, not to mention the numerous wars and police conflicts we are also up to our neck in or involved with, but again, and i cant stress this enough, that's not really got much to do with the common everyday UK citizen.

The purpose is simple enough, we wear Poppy's to remember the people who died so we can enjoy the illusion of freedom.

"At the eleventh hour, on the eleveth day, of the eleventh month in each year, we Shall Remember Them."

The reality is we seem to have learned nothing, but the sentiment and respect the poppy represents is still important.