What do you know? Heb. Eli becomes Julius in Latin

Jesu' grandfather was named Julius (Heb. Eli) in Latin, and Jesu' father was the son of Julius Caesar, Caesarion, carrying the Hebrew incognito name Joseph as in Joseph "The Prince of Egypt"..... Get it? Jesus was Julius Caesar's true heir....

He wouldn't have gone out of his way to lend his words and life to the bible which would blatantly seem to contradict that. Btw, the bible hardly mentions the rulers of other nations, beyond pontuis pilate, most of his argument was with the Jewish Pharisees, in which he stated that belief in the kingdom was due to faith. Have you even read the bible? It's all about faith and belief.. I'd suggest you try.

a reply to: breakingbs

Does it make any sense if I told you Jesus had his own ways with the taxes? Matthew [KJV] « 22:17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not? 18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites? 19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny. » -- I bet Jesus kept that penny....

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Yes this was stated in the bible. He was referring to rulers of nations and worldly matters. Give to Caesar what is Caesar's. As in, follow the law of the land. It was and is always wise to do so..

originally posted by: breakingbs
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Yes [...] Give to Caesar what is Caesar's...

Now who did the Herodians shew their penny to? God or Caesar?

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

It depends on whether you believe Jesus is God. Jesus spoke often of donating to his church as a gesture of faith. His church referenced his INTIMATE relationship with the spiritual concept of the kingdom of God, soon to come, not an enterprise. Not a hollow place of business. Not earthly matters. When he referenced his church, he was talking about his "wife" (the church) and the power of God (that which binds the church to its people) and the kingdom. So giving the token AS A GESTURE was a way of showing faith, it was like a gesture of friendship, as opposed to daily living, institutions, taxes, worldly governments etcetera..

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Very interesting... Do you have any links or references that I can check out? Or just point me in the right direction?

I have seen the family connection so to speak in a different line -- specifically, that Joseph's mother was Cleopatra of Jerusalem, reportedly the daughter of Cleopatra and Julius Caesar, born after Julius' death and married off to "an obscure Prince" of the east. I just tried to find a source and the first link I found was actually a comment I made on ATS a while back:

To make it even more intriguing... There are also rumors that Jesus' paternal grandmother was Cleopatra of Jerusalem, none other than the daughter of Cleopatra and Julius, born after his assassination, and ultimately married to "an obscure Prince of the East," Joseph the Carpenter's father the mother. After the "obscure Prince's" death, Cleopatra of Jerusalem was married to Herod. Just think of the political implications if true -- or even if rumored to be true at the time: In one man, Jesus, would be the one heir to the Roman, Egyptian, Hebrew and Druid empires... Talk about a kingdom!

The thread I made the comment in is here: Fox News anchor declares that 'Jesus and Santa are 'verifiably white'. You might find that thread interesting also.

Here's another link that talks about Jesus being the grandson of Cleopatra of Jerusalem (and therefore the great-grandson of Julius and Cleopatra) if you're interested:

“Out of Egypt, I will Bring My Son”- The Mystery of Cleopatra of Jerusalem

a reply to: breakingbs

I say Jesus was Julius Caesar's grandson and direct heir to the throne of the Empire. I'd say Jesus was one of them imperial penny snatchers known as Caesars, appearing like a thief, then by slight-of-hand-- ending up owning them all. When they present him with the penny, he tossed it slightly weighing it in his hand, while walking away from them, turning his head reminding them who they just paid tribute to.....

a reply to: Boadicea

Well of course Santa was verifiably white, it was a northern myth. As far as Jesus, he could have been Greek, African, or anything and it wouldn't have meant a dang..

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Well some people do accuse the church of running like a business or faith as being sham for high and holy rollers..but you believe whatever you want to.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Very interesting... Do you have any links or references that I can check out? Or just point me in the right direction?

Find the source, surf down stream and if you're lucky you'll see her riding off into the sky on a certain, hrm, A q u i l a e M a g n a e ?

Nm..

originally posted by: breakingbs
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Well some people do accuse the church of running like a business or faith as being sham for high and holy rollers..but you believe whatever you want to.

And some might say you're right in that particular assumption

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Lol.

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim

Jesu' grandfather was named Julius (Heb. Eli) in Latin...

Iulius and Eli are not the same names in Latin.

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Okay, gotcha. I thought you were actually serious about this... sorry for wasting your time and energy trying to have a real discussion. Won't make that mistake again!

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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim

Jesu' grandfather was named Julius (Heb. Eli) in Latin...

Iulius and Eli are not the same names in Latin.

Oh yeah? Remove the Latin male suffix, -us, and you have Juli transliterate into Hebrew and you get YULI, however in Hebrew YU in front of a word is a prefix for the third person (Y he/they) future tense (U), so in order not to bring any confusion, a Jew would render Julius as Eli in Hebrew/Aramaic.

a reply to: breakingbs

Haha! Too late... already saw it

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
Oh yeah? Remove the Latin male suffix, -us, and you have Juli translitterate into Hebrew and you get YELI, however in Hebrew Y in front of a word is a prefix for the third person (he/they), so in order not to bring any confusion, a Jew would render Julius as Eli in Hebrew/Aramaic.

Wrong. You are using the letter 'J' which did not exist in Latin.