What to do with the Ancient Aliens ?

In another galaxy Long long ago I there once was a documentary called 'Ancient Aliens'.
Well to be honest it wasn't really a documentary was more like an show.
It had to be entertaining the 'facts' in the show were pure speculation.

Eventually I came to the conclusion that the show 'Ancient Aliens' was just entertainment.
it Was just a show nothing more....


A show is a show and a hypothesis is a hyposthesis

The show 'Ancient Aliens' is not the hypothesis 'Ancient Aliens'. And most people now primed by the MSM show 'Ancient Aliens' don't make that distinction anymore.

In fact the 'Ancient Aliens' hypothesis is very old compared to the famous show.So in this thread I don't talk about show but the hypothesis example :

OOPA's

A eye opener for me was it that that same hypothesis already was made in the 1950 by sovjet scientists. I'll don't go into details but finding pure processed Wolframe at an archeological sites is very very weird.... (own experience)

If there were no Aliens...

There were 4 x10^9 years time to visit earth.
If aliens didn't visit earth in that time well then statistically the chances that an advanced alien civilization exists are almost zero. Even at sublight speed aliens could have visited the old earth many many times Do the math!. Wiht all those earth like planets found by the keplermission that's very hard to believe.Water on exoplanets but no live ??

So if aliens never visited than it follows:

ALL U.F.O sightings are hoaxes or misinterpretations?

I for myself find this it very hard to believe !

However if even a single encounter was the result of contact with an Alien civilisation.
Then Statistically it follows that there have been contacts in the past....

Well then is it so far fetched to believe that Aliens build 'stuff' for our ancestors ?

Wouldn't an advanced civilizations have interacted with humanity ? Tell me what would humanity do if it went on a mission to GlieseX123 ? wouldn't they do the same ?

About 10 years ago when the show 'Ancient Aliens' was at his height people were more open about the hypothesis. The public was really interested in that stuff. but in my opinion sadly enough they lost interest ... the show was to blame,

AA is a show ... but hey look deeper

But with the passing of time the show became it's own farce.

If nowadays one mentions the 'Ancient aliens' hypothesis people immediately associate it with that 'wacky' show (at least american/western people) even on ATS. Without even doing any research at all.

My Question

So with that in mind I would like to ask the following to the people of ATS.

Is the 'Ancient Alien' hypothesis still a plausible solution for the explanation of OOPA's around the world ?
Or do you think it's a Conspiracy theory that has had his time and it turned out to be just entertainment for the masses ?

a reply to: frenchfries

Back in the days van Däniken was diagnosed with mental illness and hospitalised, because of his theories. So at least we should be grateful we're now allowed to discuss it, without that kind of doom looming.

It's intoxicating the first time you start exploring it. That pretty much sums it up.
Personally I think mythology confirms ancient astronauts.

a reply to: frenchfries

What do i think?


I think they are here. Watching.

a reply to: frenchfries

I think other civilizations exists throughout the universe within the countless galaxies.

Its not a question of existence.

Its a question of distance, energy, lifespan, psychology, and travel time.

It seems in theory, it would take the energy output equivalent to our Sun's to put a modest size vessel into a warp field. Or is it hyperdrive? Or ludicrous speed? I forget?

a reply to: frenchfries

" Is the 'Ancient Alien' hypothesis still a plausible solution for the explanation of OOPA's around the world ? "

Yes , it has always been . The Laws of Probability do not Discount it from happening . As for the Show " Ancient Aliens " , 90 Percent of their Claims of Ancient Alien Visitations in Earth's Past to Explain some Discovered Ooparts around the World could be Explained away by Admitting that Human Genius was more prevalent in the Past than previously Imagined . In other words , our Ancestors were more Advanced at some things than Today's Science give them credit for . The other 10 Percent are Truly Unknown Mysteries waiting to be Solved one day .

a reply to: neutronflux

It seems in theory, it would take the energy output equivalent to our Sun's to put a modest size vessel into a warp field. Or is it hyperdrive? Or ludicrous speed? I forget?

you do understand that your response is pure theory.... but why use an oldfashion warpfield ?

Somewere in an undisclose location of this galaxy aliens solved the problem by changing lightspeed... well they still travel at sublight speed but locally C is much much higher... duh einstein never told us why C was a constant... and no-one seems to care

back to Ancient aliens , well you don't need that much energy to travel (physics) without a force applied to an object there is no accelleration so... you only need energy to accelerate F=m*a... if you travel to Proxima-b cbs news ... it would take 40 years or more so even with human limited tech traveling to the stars is no-problemo...

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

our Ancestors were more Advanced at some things than Today's Science give them credit for .

Luckily you don't bring up that I'm trying to discredit their ingenuity by bringing Aliens into the mix. indeed ! Our ancestors were in my opinion very advanced. Maybe even so advanced that they were the ones that contacted the aliens in the first place (Nazca lines).

a reply to: frenchfries

There is also the Concept of " Generational Starships that Travel through Space over Vast periods of Time renewing their Crews through Breeding . A more plausible Theory is these Generational Starships are Crewed by Intelligent Machines . Either way , Traveling Beyond the Speed of Light would not be needed if these Beings could sustain themselves over Vast Periods of Time .

a reply to: Peeple

So at least we should be grateful we're now allowed to discuss it, without that kind of doom looming.

... but now it feels like AA is associated with the show. However discussing AA in other countries like for instance Russia/China/Japan doesn't have that stigma/

Back in the days van Däniken was diagnosed with mental illness and hospitalised, because of his theories.

Just curious has that really happened of was that a sarcasm/joke ?

Personally I think mythology confirms ancient astronauts.

My opinion too... wouldn't be cool if an ancient craft was found...

a reply to: frenchfries

Our ancestors were in my opinion very advanced. Maybe even so advanced that they were the ones that contacted the aliens in the first place (Nazca lines).


Nothing is Impossible . The Ancient Gods Could have been other Intelligent Life Visiting Earth . How can that be Discounted with Any Degree of Certainty ?

originally posted by: frenchfries
a reply to: neutronflux

It seems in theory, it would take the energy output equivalent to our Sun's to put a modest size vessel into a warp field. Or is it hyperdrive? Or ludicrous speed? I forget?

you do understand that your response is pure theory.... but why use an oldfashion warpfield ?

Somewere in an undisclose location of this galaxy aliens solved the problem by changing lightspeed... well they still travel at sublight speed but locally C is much much higher... duh einstein never told us why C was a constant... and no-one seems to care

back to Ancient aliens , well you don't need that much energy to travel (physics) without a force applied to an object there is no accelleration so... you only need energy to accelerate F=m*a... if you travel to Proxima-b cbs news ... it would take 40 years or more so even with human limited tech traveling to the stars is no-problemo...

C was for a time thought to be the distribution of dark matter. Has that changed?

As you approach light speed, matter approaches infinite length and mass.

Existing as light? I can see breaking a record of a person into energy. But how would photons, and other forms of energy, maintain self awareness? What would enabled a group of photons to guide themselves? If a group of self aware photons were bombarded by a solar wind or a gamma burst, game over.

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

There is also the Concept of " Generational Starships that Travel through Space over Vast periods of Time renewing their Crews through Breeding . A more plausible Theory is these Generational Starships are Crewed by Intelligent Machines . Either way , Traveling Beyond the Speed of Light would not be needed if these Beings could sustain themselves over Vast Periods of Time .

...must be rather big ships. Although I think personally it isn't that difficult to go beyond lightspeed. Remember there is still no Theory of everything. Science tells us there is the limit of lightspeed but well hey science has been proven wrong on many accounts.... No water on mars... no water on moon ... no exoplanets... etc... Point is this people take for grantage that lightspeed is maximal speed.... Einstein even didn't say this in fact he said no object with mass can exceed lightspeed.... Well he didn't know about higgs-bosons... What if he did ? He might have found a clever way to remove mass from an object... maybe..
Aliens could be way more advanced than our science can imagine.

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

How can that be Discounted with Any Degree of Certainty ?

.... well exactly ! that's why I made this thread in the first place. but many people are just 'shutting off' after hearing the words 'Ancient Aliens'. In a way I hope that people are thinking beyond that wacky show and start to think for them selves again....

Time and personal experience. Truth comes with it, lies are seen soon after it. In the end all the hype I have been through, from seeing my first sky born object ( I'm sick of UFO and every three letter acronym thus far so I made my own SBO or SOB... Hehe?) The fist time when I was twelve, too personal visitations and otherwise.


As it stands either were all f***ing crazy and we should be taking all those meds the doctor prescribed. Or were making it all up because we want our five minutes of fame, were government shills (BTW I f***ing hate the over use of that word) covering up black projects or were plain and dry straight up mistaken and do not have any Idea what a weather balloon, 737, swap gas, HLV, or OLV look and move like, (which I personally would account 90% of occurrences) or their is something more.


Whether it be, aliens, time traveling post humans, angels, demons, god, demi gods, inter dimensional, AI, GOD AI, grand creator beings, (feel free to interject if I missed a substring) etc. The acceptance of new truth comes at the cost of ones own blind denial.


It's not going to be an all encompassing reveal, it Wont be. Because everyone already knows. That hard release of info will never happen. Full disclosure has been going on for hundreds if not thousands of years. In my own opinion, In my own philosophical way of thinking, no YouTube videos, no quoted articals . I think we've all seen enough of that s***.


Its not a matter of believing or discounting as it is a matter if knowing or not knowing.
What better way to lull a child into learning speech then not talking too but around them? What better way too lull a being into the great grandness ( its a word, f*** you spellcheck and the grammar horse you rode in on) of the universe and life not to mention its muliti facetted way than over centuries of appearing around you, and talking to humanity as a being while at indirect phases.

But before I ramble for to long, I'll degress before I finish.

Walk with this kook for a minute.
What if these "aliens" have been here since almost the beginning.
What if the asteroid belt was actually a planet at one time called Rehob.
What if these inhabitants had migrated to Mars as well.
When Rehob was destroyed, it's mass showered down onto Mars, destroying the
atmosphere and obliterating it's surface. What if the Rehobians were then thrust down to Earth
where they began their resettlement, eons before man.
What if they are the architects of Puma Punku, the Pyramids and Kailasa Temple.
What if they enslaved man, and continue to influence his behavior.
What if they have the ability to be here in the present, as well as having the ability to go forward and backwards in time on a limited basis. This present state would also allow them to slip or see time to there left or right, up or down spherically.
An example would be if they were traveling up above (maybe 45,000 ft). As they traverse the sky, they would be aware of EVERYTHING going on around them spherically in the physical realm as well as dimensionly.
As they would fly across the sky, they may see something or someone of interest to them. The person may view this as a bright light coming towards them. As the "alien" would approach, their ship would slip back and forth examining the the "what if" interaction with that human. If the time lines looked safe to it, it would "interact." If for some reason, the situation would allow hazards documentation of it's encounter, it could then either proceed, and wipe out all video or evidence by altering the time line, or either allow some documentation, or just leave the person alone, and look for another opportunity.
Is that kooky enough for you?

a reply to: frenchfries

Who ever said no water / ice on mars?

And why would the ships have to be large for AI? You would design everything for efficiency. And no need for bathrooms, life support, recreation facilities, sleeping quarters.

The ship itself could be the intelligent machine?

a reply to: Violater1

All Possibilities . Man is not Intelligent enough Yet to Confirm or Deny any of those scenarios .