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The hacks are probably covert CIA propaganda .
originally posted by: imitator
a reply to: DJW001
You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.
By April 2—the day Lokey left Zero Hedge—their relationship had deteriorated significantly, according to the messages provided by Ivandjiiski.
“I can’t be a 24-hour cheerleader for Hezbollah, Moscow, Tehran, Beijing, and Trump anymore. It’ s wrong. Period. I know it gets you views now, but it will kill your brand over the long run,” Lokey texted Ivandjiiski. “This isn’t a revolution. It’s a joke.”
This is the classic Soviet/Russian agitprop MO that I noted 3 years ago. A story appears in an obscure publication, typically outside the US or Europe, where it has been planted by Soviet/Russian intelligence. It is then picked up by another, more widely read publication, in Europe or the West. Maybe it works its way through several additional media sources. It then gets disseminated more widely in the west, sometimes making it to prestige publications like the NYT.
In the era of the web, the information weapon needn’t make it that far. Getting into a widely-read web publication like Zero Hedge which is then linked by numerous other sources and tweeted widely ensures that the lie goes viral.
ZH is an important transmission belt moving the story from Russian propagandists/information warriors to western news consumers. It happens a lot. This is a particularly egregious example, but the transmission belt runs almost daily. ZH is as much a part of Putin’s information warfare as RT. If you follow closely enough, it’s as plain as the nose on your face.
originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: imitator
Evidence? Or opinion only?
originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: imitator
Evidence? Or opinion only?
Why would evidence be relevant, when evidence isn't relevant when claiming the Russians are manipulating the elections? The double standards around here are amazing.
originally posted by: AboveBoard
originally posted by: ketsuko
Well let's imagine ... do you think Putin is going to sit there and whine about American groups doing it if it's Ukrainian hackers?
Putin will suspect America is behind it because we said we would retaliate in a clandestine way. I don't know if he will say it was the US or not, or simply assume it and escalate more cyber attacks against the US.
I've no doubt Putin will also try to go after the Ukrainian group as well.
If the CIA was involved, they did a good job, at least so far, of generating a stealthy and potentially politically deadly attack, on Putin.
- AB
Why would evidence be relevant, when evidence isn't relevant when claiming the Russians are manipulating the elections? The double standards around here are amazing.
originally posted by: DJW001
why are you so vehemently opposed to the source?
Maybe do what Russia does when they say they have evidence and actually post stuff like Radar and flight path data, drone videos, and so on.
If you have the actual evidence that your bias insists points to Russia, and not just conjecture by all means post it.