Universe is a hologram/virtual reality - But why? Could it be this?

Okay, we are all familiar with the theory that our universe is some sort of simulation, math that works so specifically, so well, so many predictions from math and science that are proved right more and more often etc and so on. (not going to get into "proof" google it!)

So you have to ask yourself WHY would a thing, being, God, whatever want to create such a virtual simulation?

We know that we as humans have the right to live and have family's, often with as many kids as sustainable (at the time). This means that however well we create food, we WILL use up all resources on this planet weather we make the best plans or not. But we cant crack viable ways to leave this planet and populate others beyond our own slowly decaying star.

So what about this.

What if the answer was to create a sped up reality, using all our computing and programming powers to emulate the universe (or observable universe), wait for life to grow on a planet and then give them the same problem we have so that we can reap the answer for ourselves? LEAVING THE SOLAR SYSTEM TO COLONISE OTHER SYSTEMS, INDEFINITELY.

Could it be as simple as that?

Love to hear your thoughts, been thinking about this for some time now.

a reply to: Biigs

Like the matrix meets hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy?

Simulated world to answer the of space travel?

Maybe?

The problem here is that we may not figure out the variables we would need to use before it's too late and we no longer have the resources left to make the leap ourselves.

Or we kill ourselves off...

Whichever comes first?

That is an absolutely intelligent proposal, but one that won't see the light of day.

Actually TPTB have already ran these simulations,no doubt, it's their job to know everything, apparently.

Humans have a thirst for making things our proverbial bitch, if we were struggling for an answer to something like warp drive why would we not create a virtual universe of our own to exploit - sounds pretty "typical human" to me.

As for hitchhikers guide and matrix, i guess so yes, but none of them tackle the reason for anything as well as this seemly obvious sort of idea.

Ive had thought of a never ending scale of things since i was a younger man, an infinite scale theory, but this concept actually fits that idea on limitless scale in both directions totally by accident, its not the scale thats important but the emulation. Einstein might have proved this theory when he said that all matter was energy, if a simulation was looking at its basic components as closely as we are now that WAS a simulation, everything WOULD look like electricity because that is in fact all it is made from.

LEAVING THE SOLAR SYSTEM TO COLONISE OTHER SYSTEMS, INDEFINITELY.

So... why hasn't that already been going on, "indefinitely"?

Look to the next dimension, the one we can't yet see. The one we have to die to enter.

originally posted by: intrptr

LEAVING THE SOLAR SYSTEM TO COLONISE OTHER SYSTEMS, INDEFINITELY.

So... why hasn't that already been going on, "indefinitely"?

Look to the next dimension, the one we can't yet see. The one we have to die to enter.

I would guess that the universe is a chaotic place, that the conditions for life are rare, and for the ones that do produce life have to keep things "just right" for million or billions of years. With all that matter and energy bursting here and there, rocks flying at insane speeds, suns exploding etc and so on, that for planets that DO create life may be wiped out in the first 1,000 years quite easily.

originally posted by: Biigs

originally posted by: intrptr

LEAVING THE SOLAR SYSTEM TO COLONISE OTHER SYSTEMS, INDEFINITELY.

So... why hasn't that already been going on, "indefinitely"?

Look to the next dimension, the one we can't yet see. The one we have to die to enter.

I would guess that the universe is a chaotic place, that the conditions for life are rare, and for the ones that do produce life have to keep things "just right" for million or billions of years. With all that matter and energy bursting here and there, rocks flying at insane speeds, suns exploding etc and so on, that for planets that DO create life may be wiped out in the first 1,000 years quite easily.

Contrare, I think lots of suns have habitable zones and planets that can harbor life (with a bit of tweaking). Due to recent planetary discoveries around other stars, many more than we we at first thought. If the Hubble Deep Fields (two of them now) show us anything, its that the Universe is full of many more Galaxies than previously thought, too.

In fact if the Universe is infinite, then it goes on forever, has always been there, and life has had pretty much forever to spread pretty much everywhere.

a reply to: intrptr

And i tend to agree with you, but surely the sheer size of the emulation is the best way to ensure a positive result?

If we crack quantum computing and molecular data storage before we crack light speed (or better) travel, whats to stop us creating another 'level' to our own simulation, starting yet another branch in the tree of answers?

originally posted by: Biigs
a reply to: intrptr

And i tend to agree with you, but surely the sheer size of the emulation is the best way to ensure a positive result?

If we crack quantum computing and molecular data storage before we crack light speed (or better) travel, whats to stop us creating another 'level' to our own simulation, starting yet another branch in the tree of answers?

Well thats the whole idea behind a hypercube, the next dimension, all around us, accessible by passing over to that place. Where we can be 'everywhere' at once, small as an atom or big as a Universe.

Then we can 'jump' anywhere we want.

Omnipotent and omniscient, or something. You understand many oofo reports have them jumping from here to there in a moment. Best description I ever heard of this, for what its worth. About a minute into here...

It could just be that we like making models and playing games. As far back in history as can see we find models, toys, simulations of something in our reality. We see doll houses, model railroads, and these days video games that mimic our reality or create a new one. We're on the verge of immersive games using 3-day and virtual reality. It appears to be in our genes to do this. And a lot of these video games are first person shooters or inevitably have some sort of warfare and/or conquest associated with them. So we could very well be avatars and all this stuff we do is fake at another level.

The purpose is to find the best system to sustain balance, this Universe ( sim ) is one of many running parallel on some kind of super computer which does have glitching. Ghosting and supernatural can be possible due to the sim's being run on the same memory chips, its common to have memory not release its last store and its called "Leakage" in computer terms.

This Leakage can explain anomalies like a ghost of a person appearing where he or she is on a parallel simulation but not in the our simulation, they appear faint and out of focus due to it being remnant code not designed specifically for us to see.

Infinity is the clue though, the only place where you can have infinity as a real physical entity is in a simulation, I suspect the "Master Coder" is telling us he is infinite ? anyway I could go on more but you get the picture..there is no doubt we are in a very complex simulation with the outcome being to find a design set where everything is in perpetual balance.

a reply to: mazzroth

The very idea of infinity is complex and very interesting.

If you were to have a value that was inexpressible in math but needed to exist in order to perpetuate a false reality, you would assign a value that didnt exist, youd simply call it ∞

But just because you cant stick a number on somthing doesnt mean its not relevant or intangible, we have a limit to our processing, we cant write more ones and zeros than there are in atoms in the universe so theres a fixed finite number we could ever possibly fix - but that doesnt stop us theorising the idea.

This is why this possible simulation exists, we CAN substitute infinity.

the only purpose is to just live. youre thinking about it too hard. its not hard to0 see why a conscious being would want to create a massive simulation and splinter itself into innumerable numbers of beings all living and having unique experiences.

the other option is to sit there and be aware of your own awareness. consciousness needs something to do.

a reply to: mazzroth
" no doubt we are in a simulation". You sound pretty sure. However I love your interpretation of ghosts. That is honestly the best example of relating the anomaly to the simulated universe I have seen and seems very plausible when relating it to the problems we experience with our computers. I never would have derived to that conclusion ( choose not to believe in the theory myself), but it is a fascinating concept from a human perspective. Thankyou very much for that. It's why ATS used to be great.

I would say though do you think simulations of this magnitude would experience the same coding errors in computers only 100 years old. How would you explain interaction with supposed family members (deceased) if it's merely a memory dump/glitch?

I know it's would be hard to articulate and you most probably haven't formulated a strong foundations to the ins and outs of what you believe but I wiuld like to know your interpretations on such things.

Thankyou again. Very stimulating indeed sir.

For this to happen we need to create code for every possible variable, quarks, dark matter , everything outside our observable universe to which we don't fully understand, therefore cannot create a "true to sim" simulation. The ripple effects of miscalculations would have completely different results.

But say we did know everything out there. How can a computer simulate before someone's birth that an individual would create faster than light travel or a renewable energy source? How can it account for emotions/hormones?the concept of free-will ( ignore that one, hate the concept). It can't account for decisions.

No doubt it will help us plan for future catastrophes like asteroids, galaxy collisions etc etc but simulating stuff on earth wiuld be non reflective and incorrect in its projections.

It's a good concept, speeding it up to see our future, but not plausible from the reality I perceive unfortunately . Nice thinking though.

a reply to: Biigs

" But we cant crack viable ways to leave this planet and populate others beyond our own slowly decaying star. "

Why do you think we couldn't already do this?

a reply to: Biigs

Perhaps there are 2 eternal concept, an eternal awareness of nothing, and an ego which vibrates to create contrast, so that the awareness is even aware that it is.

Then perhaps at some point, the ego changed it's pattern, and took some more focus from the awareness, and kept changing until; all of this energy dream, which we, the one awareness, is manipulated into creating in one now.

If so, you could observe it all, your inner and outer world, and perhaps even reconnect to the state you were in when you were born. Unlimited potential, only slowly shaped into believing whatever.

In this imagined scenario, thoughts and emotions become the strings which lead to the hands of the puppeteer.

Interestingly, the Egyptian deity Thoth is not only the creator of all intellectual knowledge, it/he is also the maintainer of the universe, as well as the judger of the dead.

Atum is the finisher of the universe. Even our thoughts are energy, electro chemical reactions, energy reacting with energy.

I made a thread about this concept here - www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Biigs

I totally believe it.

It's all crap...

time to wake up

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