Real time Facebook presidential poll shows a completely different story than mainstream media polls

a reply to: imjack

Bingo....100% spot on!

Like I broke down above, it could be as simple as searching "Trump SNL skit"

That assertion as very much backed up by the fact that his number 3 trending search was SNL. I mean I can't stand SNL over the last 15 years but I understand Baldwin did very well with it. So it would make a lot of sense that people would search that and since millions watch the show or wanted to see the skit...BOOM...inflated results

originally posted by: KyoZero

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: KyoZero
Ok I am voting Hillary. I currently have 159 people on my friends list. I know of 3-4 people who are relatively die hard for Trump. This is easy to know because of post history, and the fact that in many cases, the few others who tore me apart for posting something Democrat related were removed by me. But let's make the numbers easy. We'll say I have 100 friends on FB. 90 are Hillary and 10 are Trump. Now because I have sch a massive overload of H supporters in comparison to T, there are some factors to look at.

That's so strange. 80%+ of the people on my FB friend list have not expressed a political preference and seem to steer clear of talking politics on FB.

Also, FB does not alert me to my FB friends' political preferences.

Unless a friend posts an apparent preference, I have no idea what their preference is. There's no way to surround myself with like-minded political-thinkers on FB. There's no way for you to surround yourself with like-minded political thinkers on FB...unless you are actively reaching out and asking every single person who sends you a FB friend request (and vice versa).

I'm of the opinion that only sick-minded people try to find out, before becoming FB friends or for the purpose of 'cleansing' their friend list, if the person shares the same political views.

I've never been asked by anyone what my political views are for the purposes of rejection or 'cleansing.'

Your train of thought on this is absurd.

Are you kidding me? All I said was I knew the absolute preference of 3-4 die hard Trump supporters

And knowing the preferences of my friends list is RIDICULOUSLY EASY. It's really close to polling day. I have many friends who are university students, which tends towards liberalism as well as outspokenness, and I happen to have a good deal of friends who are heavy into live protesting.

You made a leap of logic -- a giant leap -- that based on those 3-4 blatant Trump supporters you deleted, 90 out of 100 people on your FB friend list are Hillary supporters.

It was a bizarre leap, too. And it was very, very difficult to follow your attempt at logic, at that point.

"Knowing" their preferences, in the way you described, is wholly inaccurate. You are assuming.

And most people don't have FB friend lists filled with political activists. Try old high school friends, coworkers, etc.

Your scenario is just so uniquely bizarre. it doesn't even apply to most people.

BTW...young activists that support Hillary, the Warmonger & Wall Street darling. LOL. That was a good one.

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ETA: I have not posted (or liked) anything indicating my political opinions on FB. No thanks. I have noticed most people avoid it, too, like the plague.

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: Indigo5

In the beginning of this race, yes the mainstream media was biased. They employed a false equivalency. They were so obsessed with appearing non-bias that they over-covered Hillary scandals and under-covered Trump's daily insanity in an erroneous bid at objectivity.

Wait, wait, wait. let me stop you right there. I didn't even bother to read the rest of your post.

Ok, Ok, Ok...I stopped reading yours right there.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

you....have...got...to...be...joking...me

Please for all that is holy...READ THIS at least ten times....ESPECIALLY the bold part

My quote that you are referencing

Ok I am voting Hillary. I currently have 159 people on my friends list. I know of 3-4 people who are relatively die hard for Trump. This is easy to know because of post history, and the fact that in many cases, the few others who tore me apart for posting something Democrat related were removed by me. But let's make the numbers easy. We'll say I have 100 friends on FB. 90 are Hillary and 10 are Trump. Now because I have sch a massive overload of H supporters in comparison to T, there are some factors to look at.

I literally said, "We'll SAY I have 100 friends on FB. 90 are Hillary and 10 are Trump."

I was making my turn from the reality on my Facebook to my now made up experiment....Read it ANOTHER TEN TIMES...please...please....please

In between my report that I deleted a few people and the next statement, I am transitioning between "I deleted these people" and "here is my made up experiment to explain why I think this poll is not accurate"

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: Indigo5

In the beginning of this race, yes the mainstream media was biased. They employed a false equivalency. They were so obsessed with appearing non-bias that they over-covered Hillary scandals and under-covered Trump's daily insanity in an erroneous bid at objectivity.

You have now lost all credibility to say another word in this thread.

Holy Crap...

Said the man touting one man's FB survey as cause to dismiss the entirety of statistical science and as reason to believe the Racist Oompa Loompa will win the white house.

You lost all credibility when you posted the OP.

a reply to: Rezlooper

Agree 1000%!! Thanks for posting O.P!! Good thread! S&F

a reply to: j.r.c.b.

Not at all concerned with the exceptionally valid points showing why this poll is BS?

There's been some darn good stuff

originally posted by: KyoZero

I literally said, "We'll SAY I have 100 friends on FB. 90 are Hillary and 10 are Trump."

Oh, I got it now. You were pulling fictional and unrealistic scenarios and ideas out of your *ss. Things that don't apply to reality, in the slightest.

But you felt all that made-up, speculative garbage supported your contention that too much like-minded thinking exists in FB friend lists to give any credence to the poll even when it reached many circles beyond the initial Trump-supporting circle.

Got it. It was all made-up nonsense.

My apologies. I thought you believed you were trying to make a legitimate point. I see now that we agree that you were just making crap up to suit an argument.

Moving on.

a reply to: raymundoko

When I think of the south I think of white inbred hillbillies. Not African Americans. Which is the reason for my broad statement about uneducated southerners being trumps base. I have already corrected myself by stating that ignorant rednecks aren't only relegated to the south anymore and am entertaining the premise that they are spreading like an unwanted disease thus allowing us to slip further into a state of idiocracy.

This was never meant to be a conversation about the plight of African Americans, but as far as me being racist you are completely wrong. I am simply a realist and have seen their disdain for education first hand. That is not to say all African Americans are like that, but I myself did not come up with the term acting white. It is a term widely used in the African American community to make fun of one another in school and throughout life. Whenever one of them actually tries make their lives better. Take this quote from Charles Barkley for instance.

" I tell my white friends, we as black people, we’re never going to be successful, not because of you white people, but because of other black people. When you’re black, you have to deal with so much crap in your life from other black people. It’s a — it’s a dirty, dark secret; I’m glad it’s coming out. It comes out every few years. I wrote a big chapter in my book about it, to be honest with you.

I say, you know, when young black kids, you know, when they do well in school, the loser kids tell them, ‘Oh, you’re acting white.’ "

Regardless of all that though by using the term southerners I was referring to ignorant white rednecks and my statement had nothing to do with African Americans. So thank you for attempting to put words in my mouth.

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
a reply to: Greggers

The media Is not scientific either.

Define "Media"?
Fox Online Polls? FB? Twitter? Drudge?
Or Monmouth University? Marist College? Quinnipac University? Public Policy Institute? Ipsos?

"Media" is a catch-all these days for any reality people don't like and refuse to accept.

Universities are the breeding grounds of liberalism so you surely haven't gained any traction there.

If by "liberalism" you mean knowledge and critical thinking skills, you are correct.

The attack on universities is part of the GOP's strategy to expand it's support...Less education..more GOP Voters.

This OP of "hey..a guy on FB and his friends think Trump will win...the rest of the world must be lying" is a prime example.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Totally missed the point of what I said. I know you saw CA and got triggered but my point was that your personal stories about what you see doesn't lend credence to any sort of proof of any majority support of a candidate.

a reply to: conscientiousobserver

Bust as I've proven there aren't a vast amount of ignorant white rednecks as the white graduation rate, test score and college education is very similar no matter where you live in the USA. You are looking at percentages based on total population, not demographics. All you've done is called the minority groups uneducated. Typical of your type of person though. All kinds of rhetoric with absolutely no substance.

You simply don't like people who disagree with your view so you attempt to ignorantly disparage them. You've inadvertently shown your intrinsic racism though. It's out there now.

Most racist statement award goes to: When I think of the south I think of white inbred hillbillies.

I imagine you view the Duck Commander group as ignorant rednecks?

It's so farcical that Hillary and/or Trump supporters believe that they are smarter, more intelligent, more insightful than the 'other side.'

...And that they would stereotype & generalize to prove how gosh-darned enlightened they are.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
It's so farcical that Hillary and/or Trump supporters believe that they are smarter, more intelligent, more insightful than the 'other side.'

...And that they would stereotype & generalize to prove how gosh-darned enlightened they are.

For every additional dollar an individual earns he or she is less likely to vote democrat. I'd argue that this is the primary divide between democrats and republcians, and indicative that one side represents the haves and the other the have nots. And, absent special circumstances, it is society who places value on the worth of an individual. So while democrats are parading around town begging for $15 an hour, the rest of us would rather they starve than pay an extra nickel for our burgers. It seems our political dichotomy is similar to a parasite /host relationship, and that's about as unequal as it gets.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I don't even know what to say....jaw is all the way past the floor

I used the fictional scenario in order to prove why Rez's poor excuse for a "poll" might as well be fictional too.

People use things like thought experiments, number games, etc all the time. I guess I am not allowed to.

Thanks for clearing that up

Still time to kiss up to the queen before the election. #Hillarypayforplay

originally posted by: KyoZero

People use things like thought experiments, number games, etc all the time. I guess I am not allowed to.

Thanks for clearing that up

No, you can't use thought experiments and games to support a point you want taken seriously.

Dank thread.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: KyoZero

People use things like thought experiments, number games, etc all the time. I guess I am not allowed to.

Thanks for clearing that up

No, you can't use thought experiments and games to support a point you want taken seriously.

Glad nobody told Schrodinger that...

originally posted by: bluesjr

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: KyoZero

People use things like thought experiments, number games, etc all the time. I guess I am not allowed to.

Thanks for clearing that up

No, you can't use thought experiments and games to support a point you want taken seriously.

Glad nobody told Schrodinger that...

Ha...fair point.

But he really wasn't using a legitimate 'thought experiment,' like Schrodinger, in his argument. Those were his words to describe his argument. Mine would be "made up crap."