Trooper's widow urges voters to reject legalizing marijuana

a reply to: TerryDon79

absolutely it has.

You have entire ghettos where fathers are sent off to prison for small possession charges, leaving their families to be raised in ghettos that are full of men who are hardcore felons and sex offenders. Because that is what happens in a ghetto....folks who no one wants to hire have to live somewhere, right? So they get shuffled right into the middle of families. The same families whose moms are heard repeatedly on the news decrying how they tried to keep their babies out of "the life", but it was all around them.

The Land of the Free has the highest rate of incarceration, both in raw numbers and per capita, in the world. All those crapholes we like to poke fun at while standing around the bbq on Sunday....Russia, Iran, Cuba, North Korea....none of them put as many people in prison as we do here in the Land of the Free.

So 3 million people. That is 1% of our population. Instead of making money and producing for our nation, they sit and rot in a cell draining our economy. And perpetuating a cesspool in the inner cities, where the youth they influence once they are parolled simply perpetuate the cycle.

We are seeing this misery play out today in places like Chicago and Ferguson. Do you feel that this is good for our nation? We had a chance after the Civil War, and instead of figuring out what to do with all these newly freed people, we enacted Jim Crow laws, and then spent enormous amounts of money stranding them on islands of poverty in our inner cities.

I wonder what happened in Portugal when they decriminalized all drugs?

mic.com...

news.vice.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

Oh now I remember. It was a success, guys.

a reply to: TerryDon79
Besides the fact that we spent trillions on it, it just doesn't work.

All it has done is drive up black market prices and then put non violent drug offenders behind bars for far too long and crowded our prisons which in turn means more wasted money.

Why would legalizing drugs make the country worse?

a reply to: TerryDon79

You get the country is made up of people right?..otherwise it's just a piece land.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

You know how that could have been avoided?

By not doing something that has been made illegal.

Regardless if you disagree with something being illegal, doesn't mean you should do it anyway.

a reply to: Sremmos80

So the country wasted money? That's the argument?

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

We are seeing this misery play out today in places like Chicago and Ferguson. Do you feel that this is good for our nation? We had a chance after the Civil War, and instead of figuring out what to do with all these newly freed people, we enacted Jim Crow laws, and then spent enormous amounts of money stranding them on islands of poverty in our inner cities.

THIS ^^^^

People just seem to gloss over this part of American history!

a reply to: ColdWisdom

No #..Stevie Wonder could see it.

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: TerryDon79

You get the country is made up of people right?..otherwise it's just a piece land.

Yep. Completely get that.

Not sure what thatvhas to do with cannabis being illegal though.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Who made it illegal..god?

Sorry for the loss but no different than a drunk driver legal to use but not legal to use and drive, same exact thing

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: TerryDon79

Who made it illegal..god?

The government, obviously. The same government that made killing someone illegal.

a reply to: TerryDon79

You say prohibition does not effect the country..only people..wtf does that even mean.
Some people can't see beyond their own back yard.

a reply to: TerryDon79

By not doing something that has been made illegal. Regardless if you disagree with something being illegal, doesn't mean you should do it anyway.

Or, a ruling class can take something that a large percentage of a targeted population is harmlessly participating in, and make it illegal, conveniently creating criminals and a criminal population out of thin air!

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: TerryDon79

You say prohibition does not effect the country..only people..wtf does that even mean.
Some people can't see beyond their own back yard.

I said making cannabis illegal hasn't effected the country.

It's effected a small minority that will do it regardless.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: searcherfortruth

Why not legalise heroin too? After all "it's just a plant", just like cannabis is "just a plant".

Or opium? (Same plant as heroin)

Plants can't be dangerous.

/sarcasm

Alcohol is also made from vegetation, as are cigarettes.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

You know how that could have been avoided?

By not doing something that has been made illegal.

Regardless if you disagree with something being illegal, doesn't mean you should do it anyway.

This is the exact opposite of what is true.

As Americans we are bound to ignore unjust laws. Its the entire basis of jury nullification.

Regardless, you are ignoring the fact that addiction is a medical issue. Would you tell someone with the flu, "well, you shouldn't have gotten the flu. You know better"?

How has that kind of treatment worked out for mental health so far?

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: TerryDon79

By not doing something that has been made illegal. Regardless if you disagree with something being illegal, doesn't mean you should do it anyway.

Or, a ruling class can take something that a large percentage of a targeted population is harmlessly participating in, and make it illegal, conveniently creating criminals and a criminal population out of thin air!

Why don't you use the same logic for other illegal things?

Murder
Rape
Theft

For example?

Is it because they're illegal?

originally posted by: Xaphan

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: searcherfortruth

Why not legalise heroin too? After all "it's just a plant", just like cannabis is "just a plant".

Or opium? (Same plant as heroin)

Plants can't be dangerous.

/sarcasm

Alcohol is also made from vegetation, as are cigarettes.

So is food.

I don't get your point.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: TerryDon79

Who made it illegal..god?

The government, obviously. The same government that made killing someone illegal.

This, again, is untrue. Killing was made illegal eons before the US government existed. Killing violates Natural Law, the basis of what has become US Law. But natural law was recognized and codified long, long before the US existed.