Terminally Ill Woman’s Insurance Company Will Pay for Her Assisted Suicide, But Not for Chemo

There has never been an industry where insurance became commonplace that did not increase prices drastically.

There has never been a single individual cured of anything by an insurance company.

There has never been a government program that did not overspend and/or cut services/quality.

There has never been an industry that did not profit immensely (some might say shamelessly as well) from a mandate to purchase its product.

But somehow, in this magical land of unicorns and rainbows we keep hearing about from our bleeders leaders, none of that matters if you just believe in miracles. Ignore the poor sick woman being coerced to kill herself to save money... look at the unicorn climbing the rainbow! There's a fairy on his back!

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

I swear.. cant a go fund me allow the real humans to help her pay for meds? Jaysus this makes me mad..

Health care in America is a for profit institution, complete with Corporations, stock holders, Bored of Directors, Ceo and all the corruption that comes with obscene profits. It's capitalism...and the ACA is an intragal part of that system.
Factor in the yuuugggeee pharmacological industry, manufactures of those fancy MRI machines and the enormous human resourses industry and toto I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.

we sure as hell don't want what those commie socialist Canadians have, that's for sure.

www.forbes.com...

originally posted by: olaru12
Health care in America is a for profit institution, complete with Corporations, stock holders, Bored of Directors, Ceo and all the corruption that comes with obscene profits. It's capitalism...

we sure as hell don't want what those commie socialist Canadians have, that's for sure.

www.forbes.com...

Nope, its not an either or. We can have something different than Canada, what we have now, what we had before, etc.. It doesnt HAVE to be only a choice of 2 things.

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: olaru12
Health care in America is a for profit institution, complete with Corporations, stock holders, Bored of Directors, Ceo and all the corruption that comes with obscene profits. It's capitalism...

we sure as hell don't want what those commie socialist Canadians have, that's for sure.

www.forbes.com...

Nope, its not an either or. We can have something different than Canada, what we have now, what we had before, etc.. It doesnt HAVE to be only a choice of 2 things.

Who's going to tackle a Trillion dollar plus profit machine. The Government? Trump? Don't make me laugh.....They tell govt. what to do with the unbridled lobbyist cartel. Just like banking, war profiteers, Energy companies etc. Get your head out of your A$$.




I told you to not make me laugh!

From my own personal experience with insurance.
It's legalized theft, they will take everything from you to gain the upper hand.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: olaru12
Health care in America is a for profit institution, complete with Corporations, stock holders, Bored of Directors, Ceo and all the corruption that comes with obscene profits. It's capitalism...

we sure as hell don't want what those commie socialist Canadians have, that's for sure.

www.forbes.com...

Nope, its not an either or. We can have something different than Canada, what we have now, what we had before, etc.. It doesnt HAVE to be only a choice of 2 things.

Who's going to tackle a Trillion dollar plus profit machine. The Government? Trump? Don't make me laugh.....




I told you to not make me laugh!

Obviously not the govt. They came up with the ACA and you all lapped it up.

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: olaru12
Health care in America is a for profit institution, complete with Corporations, stock holders, Bored of Directors, Ceo and all the corruption that comes with obscene profits. It's capitalism...

we sure as hell don't want what those commie socialist Canadians have, that's for sure.

www.forbes.com...

Nope, its not an either or. We can have something different than Canada, what we have now, what we had before, etc.. It doesnt HAVE to be only a choice of 2 things.

Who's going to tackle a Trillion dollar plus profit machine. The Government? Trump? Don't make me laugh.....




I told you to not make me laugh!

Obviously not the govt. They came up with the ACA and you all lapped it up.

Well who then....You don't have a clue as to how a Corporate Oligarchy works do you?

I didn't lap anything up, I'm a vet and have the VA....

a reply to: olaru12

It's pure demand dictating the price. If Americans weren't so Unhealthy and so "spoiled" by wanting to get rid of even little pains at any cost, Medical care wouldn't be so expensive. And you wouldn't see 3 minute long commercials for medications fill the boob tube every morning/afternoon.

a reply to: strongfp

Is the insurance company to blame for the high cost of health care? What I am saying in America we pay far in the way the most for health care, is it an better? No we are #37 in outcomes compared to other nations.

If the hospital charges $2500 for a half hour MRI the insurance company has to pay it, this in turn jacks up the cost of medical insurance. It is a snake eating it's tail.

There are numerous other countries that are doing a far better job at a better cost, but we still do the same old crap. Of course we can't learn from them and apply it to our country. Do you wonder why? It is about money, not about making or keeping you well. It's about money and power, always.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: olaru12
Health care in America is a for profit institution, complete with Corporations, stock holders, Bored of Directors, Ceo and all the corruption that comes with obscene profits. It's capitalism...

we sure as hell don't want what those commie socialist Canadians have, that's for sure.

www.forbes.com...

Nope, its not an either or. We can have something different than Canada, what we have now, what we had before, etc.. It doesnt HAVE to be only a choice of 2 things.

Who's going to tackle a Trillion dollar plus profit machine. The Government? Trump? Don't make me laugh.....




I told you to not make me laugh!

Obviously not the govt. They came up with the ACA and you all lapped it up.

Well who then....You don't have a clue as to how a Corporate Oligarchy works do you?

Im sure you assume so and youll school me while calling me derisive cute little names and continuing your condescending posts.. as you have for a while now making a complete line towing ass of yourself in the process. If I were a better person Id hope you didnt break your neck when you fall off of that pedestal youve hoisted yourself upon. But Im just not a good person at all and will gladly eat blueberry muffins while you obsess over Trump in every thread even if its not politically related and hope you crash and burn.

Oh but hey, have a great night!

originally posted by: Greggers
Insurance companies must be removed from the loop, along with any profit motive that seeks to supercede the hypocratic oath.

We've gone horribly wrong here.

I do blame insurance companies and greed.

Medicare for everyone. My older relatives are on medicare and they've never been denied benefits.

It takes some mental gymnastics to suggest that because insurance companies have denied her coverage it's not insurance companies to blame, it's the government. Especially considering that in universal healthcare countries NO ONE IS REFUSED TREATMENT.

originally posted by: Greggers
Insurance companies must be removed from the loop, along with any profit motive that seeks to supercede the hypocratic oath. We've gone horribly wrong here. I do blame insurance companies and greed. Medicare for everyone. My older relatives are on medicare and they've never been denied benefits.

I'm on Medicare. Be careful what you ask for. It's insurance, just run by the government. It has auditors who are not doctors trying to dictate your medical care. It limits your choices, often to the point of absurdity. It's a constant battle. Not only does it not pay for everything, it pays less and less. You absolutely need a "supplemental" policy, which price is more than regular insurance a few short years ago, and still does not cover everything. You need drugs, like insulin? You better be careful, because if your are ONE DAY under where you ought to be for a 90 day prescription, you pay for it yourself--or die. With Medicare there is no such word as "flexibility." You do it their way by their rules, or you don't do it.

I'm not actually ungrateful. I'm happy to be covered. I paid into the fund for 40 year and figure I should get something back from it. But just saying "Medicare for everyone" is like saying "Obamacare for everyone." It's a lot more complex than that.

This really is absolutely awful!

It's cheaper to kill grandma, than to save her, therefore we deny your coverage.

Sincerely,

-The Healthcare Insurance Industry

a reply to: DBCowboy

This is Obama care at it's most disgusting example, of what a complete fraud it was when Obama touted all of his false promises that it would be, and now we see his true intent and purpose.

This makes me sick hearing this, and that insurance company should be destroyed for following the same Obama plan of saying one thing to their subscribers, but delivering the grim reaper at rock bottom prices, while they rake in the real amount they bill the government for it. A racketeering scheme that delivers the death penalty since it is cheaper than keeping their promises. Obamacare is nothing but a broken contract with America's good citizens. I hope Trump wins so he can take a big huge machete, and GUT Obamacare like a bloated rotten fish, which is what it is..

a reply to: DBCowboy


Greetings DB-

Please allow Me to point out just a couple of things, not especially for You but perhaps for somebody else who may read it or not as I flow in a "Free Will Zone" and I don't pass a hat after speaking and I don't get to write everything off as a religion™ .............................yet.

There once was a saying, heck I remember it being referred to as an 'old adage' so it goes back a ways, it goes something like this: "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it..." (paraphrasing...)

So here is the quick thumbnail sketch of history. This is the history of "The Trough". This is a spigot funded by US taxpayer $$$, most of which is "hidden" and no accounting is ever done.
Remember the "Auto Bailouts"? Who better to piss away taxpayer $$ than that of the guys who ran them into the ground in the first place. This was 'Uncle Auto' filling His pockets w/the money. See how many Board members received raises in salary and graft hidden as "bonuses", AFTER losing $$$ for years prior, but seeing that We were paying the promised raises, why not?. Then it was the 'Banks/Money Lenders Turn' remember BankofAmerica™ and ALL those illegal foreclosures??? The majority also got raises. JPMorgan™ ---> MorganStanley™ under-reported losses. The Head lied about how much they lost. They actually lost $9B She said they lost "only $4B" She earned $132M for those years.

Then it was the "Insurance Cabals" turn at TheTrough™ and they are still there filling their pails. Who else would've written that in there? When the idea is to regulate the insurance industry You don't stick an Insurance Insider in-charge of the task, that is absolutely CRAZY. Do You agree? I mean if You've read this far?

I mention this because Mrs. Clinton mentioned in Her speech to Wall Street, that the best folks to write up new regulations regarding money matters would best be done by Wall Street?? WHAT? ARE YOU SNIPPING ME?

With the "Affordable Healthcare" "THEY" are already stealing $1207/month out of My police disability retirement for "Affordable Healthcare"....

But I am a pessimistic Optimist so I'm thinking the 100,000's of thousands of refugees escaping wars brought on by the US Department of Defense doing the Department of Offense's job 6,000 miles away, that these "New 'Mericants" will be paying for their OWN healthcare??

Could this be Mrs. Clinton growing a conscience? For Her following Her Zionist™ OverLords and finally getting their greedy mitts on Syria, more importantly their resources, We took their land and then get re-Country'ed and We get to pay them for it.

Do You think when it is all said and done, Her "war chest" will equal Dick Cheney? How much as he and Helliburton™ taken from the taxpayer under the guise of 'war'?

Next time maybe We can discuss the occupation of Israel™ although it is against The Torah?

Shalom

P.S. Sorry if it seems like I unloaded on You. How many readers will have quit thinking that I support Herr Drumpf but I know You know that I think Lil Donny is just earning His $$$ so what place is better than The ClintonFraudation™? They're LOADED.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: strongfp

Is the insurance company to blame for the high cost of health care? What I am saying in America we pay far in the way the most for health care, is it an better? No we are #37 in outcomes compared to other nations.

If the hospital charges $2500 for a half hour MRI the insurance company has to pay it, this in turn jacks up the cost of medical insurance. It is a snake eating it's tail.

There are numerous other countries that are doing a far better job at a better cost, but we still do the same old crap. Of course we can't learn from them and apply it to our country. Do you wonder why? It is about money, not about making or keeping you well. It's about money and power, always.

There is a Medical Center in town that charges $7,500 for a CAT scan. Two block away is a stand-alone Imaging Center that charges $530 for the exact same CAT scan.

Physicians send their patients to the Hospital for their scan. I think there's some financial "kick-back" involved, but NO aspects of the 23,000 page ObamaCare legislation is geared towards reducing the cost of medical procedures. And patients almost always do what their doctors tell them to do, without question.

Regardless what any of you think of government, of insurance, of the healthcare industry. . . .

This is the reality we live in now.

People won't get treatment. They'll get a god-damned death-pill instead.

originally posted by: olaru12

Well who then....You don't have a clue as to how a Corporate Oligarchy works do you?

I didn't lap anything up, I'm a vet and have the VA....

I know exactly what it means. It means that as soon as the insurance companies started supporting it the gig was up. We had been sold out. The Democrats decided that getting the pet project of Obama passed was worth chaining the working poor to a profit-making scam.

The insurance industry was uninterested until they realized they were a for profit participant in the scam. Who else could administer the program aside from those evil insurance industry insiders that went from villainized at the start of the Obama care push, then suddenly the ones who would save the masses?

Scam from the start. I'm not wishing for single-payer, but it sure as he'll would have been better than working-poor-payer. That's what Obama Care brought us.

a reply to: DBCowboy

This is the reality we live in now. People won't get treatment. They'll get a god-damned death-pill instead.

I see this as an isolated case, sad yes, pathetic absolutely, but still not a common occurrence.

I think that the private insurance company better get ready for some serious heat tomorrow. They are going to have every one of those terrible regulatory agencies that are costing us so much $ come down on them like a ton of bricks.

See this is the problem with a capitalist system and an inelastic service is you need it, and they have it (inelastic means you need it and will pay for it, regardless of price). This is dangerous to the consumers, hence the need for regulatory oversight. The temptation to raise medical care prices to make the next quarterly profits look good is just to darn hard to resist.

We are seeing the end result of a combination of lobbying, monopolies, AMA control of hospitals/equipment/Dr.s, and the beginning of the job out sourcing hang over.

The present perverted style of capitalism is incompatible with affordable medical care. The system is a bubble, and it will pop because it has to.

www.thebalance.com... ula-curve-examples-3305935