Inquiring mind

In my opinion, no belief, is an amazing and wonderful thing. Much of my belief system has a standing in Atheistic beliefs. I honestly think the Atheist crowd are the answer for mediators in the world:. One of the best choices in my opinion due to the fact they come from a level state of mind, that does not have favourites, does not have superstitions, and has the unique ability to see things in pure science. a reply to: namelesss

a reply to: polarboarder

Did you know your "crown" Chakra is supposed to be your connection with God?

originally posted by: polarboarder
In my opinion, no belief, is an amazing and wonderful thing. Much of my belief system has a standing in Atheistic beliefs. I honestly think the Atheist crowd are the answer for mediators in the world:. One of the best choices in my opinion due to the fact they come from a level state of mind, that does not have favourites, does not have superstitions, and has the unique ability to see things in pure science. a reply to: namelesss

Even science can be a 'belief' (see; 'scientism')

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: namelesss
sure ya do...

If you are going to call me a liar, or imply that you know more about me than I do, I'd think that you'd at least offer some evidence or logic, rather than the mere gainsaying of my honest statement.
Or is it your 'belief' that since you are 'infected', everyone else must be, also?
What is your point?

True, but true science in my opinion is not trying to prove anything other than reality as we know it through the scientific method. Yes they make religions out of everything. I am scientific minded therefore I do not rule out any reality. There are far right and left in every group it seems though I am an observer and not a judge. I believe in Life energy and blah blah blah blah blah. Lol reply to: namelesss

Everything is an, amazing, beautiful, and wonderful mystery.

youtu.be...

a reply to: Akragon

a reply to: namelesss

If you are going to call me a liar, or imply that you know more about me than I do, I'd think that you'd at least offer some evidence or logic, rather than the mere gainsaying of my honest statement

holy crap... why so hostile dude?


I was just saying you must have beliefs because one can rarely prove truth...

Or is it your 'belief' that since you are 'infected', everyone else must be, also?

What is your point?

You have beliefs... everyone does...

Religion need not be applied

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: namelesss

If you are going to call me a liar, or imply that you know more about me than I do, I'd think that you'd at least offer some evidence or logic, rather than the mere gainsaying of my honest statement

holy crap... why so hostile dude?

Not hostile at all. If you feel the need to gainsay my statement, just give me a reason. This 'is' a conversation, after all...

I was just saying you must have beliefs because one can rarely prove truth...

I don't need to 'believe', if the 'evidence' and stats can be piled into a 'preponderance' that I can tentatively work with.

Or is it your 'belief' that since you are 'infected', everyone else must be, also?

You have beliefs... everyone does...

So, that's it.
No, you are in error.
Everyone does not.
Matter of fact, I actually met another fellow who hosted no 'beliefs'.
Granted, it appears rare.
But not rare enough to call people 'liars'. *__-

originally posted by: polarboarder
True, but true science in my opinion is not trying to prove anything other than reality as we know it through the scientific method. Yes they make religions out of everything. I am scientific minded therefore I do not rule out any reality. There are far right and left in every group it seems though I am an observer and not a judge. I believe in Life energy and blah blah blah blah blah. Lol reply to: namelesss

If one Zetetically, philosophically questions and investigates all the assumptions of science, and adjusts the science accordingly, one comes closer to Reality.
No science doesn't 'prove', it disproves, though!
There is no difference between a 'proof/fact' that we are willing to accept, and a 'belief' that we have 'caught';

"New study of the brain shows that facts and beliefs are processed in exactly the same way."

www.newsweek.com...

originally posted by: namelesss
"New study of the brain shows that facts and beliefs are processed in exactly the same way."

www.newsweek.com...

Well, that certainly explains why religious people often treat their worldview as fact.

Well, it's no accident we're here, too much has worked out for our survival for this all to just be chance,

with that said, too much has been allowed to go wrong for us to be " governed " by a larger entity, humanity as a whole does evolve into less and less aggressive beings, however it's a slow change with some hiccups that go backwards.

It feels more like we're an experiment than we are a group of people being nurtured and loved allowing us to evolve within a freewill sphere.

The world is too unjust, unfair, unequal and most of all very selfish to logically understand what religions are trying to say.

The argument of freewill is growing old and really we don't have it, locally we have freewill, overall we are governed by other humans who are governed by other humans who are governed by other humans who are supposed to be governed by us all, but cleverly have placed so many middlemen, that you ( the public ) have a harder and harder time proving that the establishment isn't listening to you, they simply can blame it on one of the middlemen.

We've been controlled since the 40s, the democratic system we think is in place is nothing more than a scam to fool us into believing that we make things happen, voting has quickly turned into a casino game, the house always wins.

a reply to: namelesss

Yeah, trying to put your magical beliefs on the same pedestal as objective evidence in some vague hand waving of "reality is like totally subjective so my magical beliefs are basically as real as objective facts maaaan" isn't really going to wash.

The crown Chakra in my belief is a connection to the Universe which all that has, and ever will be including lifetimes and all realities. It is the all that accelerates so fast into newness that no one, no matter how hard they try, will reach, the ultimate reality: Because now and always, the truth is transforming, discovered, and morphing never to contradict itself. a reply to: Akragon

a reply to: namelesssThank you: Ahhhh, Everything that is regarded as scientific fact is only a calculated assumption that could be, or could not be completely right. Scientific rules can if looked at in different angles: As a coin which has more than 3 sides; Because of the amazing powers of the one which is you; Can be looked at in many different ways. All sides of the truth are important and like great discoveries provide more questions than answers. I don't think any belief ultimately proves anything, however it points in a direction like Zen focus it requires nothing, and what you need from the Universe is provided in a mystery that points you to your next riddle. We are always looking for something, and some may argue they are not, and if that is honest from their true inner self than that is all they need in my belief. And if they believe nothing, not only is that fascinating, wonderful, and beautiful: It is honorable, brave, and thoughtful in the pursuit of reality. Namaste'

The Cheshire cat is a perfect Emoticon for you Akragon and I immensely enjoy engaging with, and debating with you. a reply to: Akragon

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: namelesss

Yeah, trying to put your magical beliefs on the same pedestal as objective evidence in some vague hand waving of "reality is like totally subjective so my magical beliefs are basically as real as objective facts maaaan" isn't really going to wash.

Perhaps if you updated your washer.
Do you realize that with all those words, you really said nothing other than that you disagree, and haven't the intellect to form a rational objection. (A lovely one-liner, though, for what it is!)
So you bring out your smartass mouth as 'cover'..
Sorry, that don't 'wash'.
No evidence, no logic, no intelligent refutal.
Nor do you show the intellectual honest curiosity of asking me for any clarification.
I would recommend an updated 'washer' over your obsolete and noisy one.

You display your essential ignorance of science/quantum mechanics in your reference to some imaginary magical 'objective evidence'.
Have a nice day. *__-

originally posted by: Barcs

originally posted by: namelesss
"New study of the brain shows that facts and beliefs are processed in exactly the same way."

www.newsweek.com...

Well, that certainly explains why religious people often treat their worldview as fact.

To be fair, the same can be said of many scientists! *__-
Those who do not/cannot effectively question their basic assumptions are up against a 'belief'. That is one symptom.
The stronger the belief (infection), the less available it is to critical examination.

a reply to: namelesss

Hay nameless,

I think Akragon was getting at things like this.
(Ill put in question format)

Do you believe that science is the way to go?

Do you believe the moon exists?

Do you believe xmas is 25th December #$@#?

Do you believe the sun exists?

Facts can be beliefs. I think you maybe thinking about faith.

You are faithless??
(Dont take that the wrong way as its not a negative comment)

Coomba98

a reply to: coomba98

Makes sense no?

Do we "believe" man landed on the moon... sure

Can we prove it... not unless one plans to travel to said celestial body

Same with Mars... Theres a few probes... even a mobile robot apparently

Can we prove it... nah...

I believe Nameless is a real person.... Can i prove it?

Afraid not...

get me people?

Everyone has beliefs... without exception

a reply to: Akragon

Beliefs can also be wrong.

I believe right now that i will wake up tomorrow, catch a train to work and have my usual bacon and egg sandwich. But when i get to the city and pass someone eating a breakfast burritos and the smell will change my mine so i by a breakfast burrito.

Everything that makes you you, (psychologically) is due to millions of small individual beliefs.

And with your beliefs combined you are Captian Planet.... lol

No it just makes you.


Coomba98