If universum is computer emulation there will never be a God proof

A computer emulation means as-good-as-the-real-thing, how could we ever mathematically prove that we are living in a perfect virtual reality?

A perfect reality soap?

This is incompleteness of mathematics an logic, its an unprovable lemma ("Das Schweigen der Lemma")

A computer emulation must have an (software) Architect = God

17th Century Newton: Universe is like a clock so God is the clockmaker
18th Century Watt: Universe is like a steam engine so God is an engineer
19th Century Diesel: Universe is like a combustion engine so God is a Diesel machine
20th Century Oppenheimer: Universe is created by the Big Bang so God is an atom bomb of 22 megaton
21th Century galien8: Universe is like computer emulation so God is The (software) Architect

What are we blabbering about?

a reply to: galien8

A computer emulation means as-good-as-the-real-thing,

No it doesn't. I used to work on "In Circuit Emulators" (ICE), the best emulation can do is execute blocks of code in a target system under development.

The emulator exists in the real world, the real world isn't being run on a computer somewhere.

I really typed this.

a reply to: galien8

The Universe is like a Subliminal Suggestion. It's not real. And everything you thought was real and good, SuX.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: galien8

A computer emulation means as-good-as-the-real-thing,

No it doesn't. I used to work on "In Circuit Emulators" (ICE), the best emulation can do is execute blocks of code in a target system under development.

Soo, an emulation can't produce code itself on the spot, just prewritten commands. Did I got that right?

originally posted by: Danowski

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: galien8

A computer emulation means as-good-as-the-real-thing,

No it doesn't. I used to work on "In Circuit Emulators" (ICE), the best emulation can do is execute blocks of code in a target system under development.

Soo, an emulation can't produce code itself on the spot, just prewritten commands. Did I got that right?

In the world of development an emulator is a development tool used by engineers to execute blocks of pre written code to isolate errors during the development phase. Once bugs are isolated, corrections can then be made to the software under development by the software engineers.

That info is older. I don't know how much code is generate by computers nowadays. Computers generate code, but from the software written for it by programmers. If that made any sense.

I guess the term emulation is misleading, programs simulate real world environs, emulators are used during the development of system and software programs.

a reply to: intrptr

You are talking semantics here, he was obviously not talking about a real life computer programming tool.

originally posted by: PoetryInMotion
a reply to: intrptr

You are talking semantics here, he was obviously not talking about a real life computer programming tool.

Big 'semantic' difference between emulation and simulation. Are you simulated or emulated?

No,
The universe is a twinkie.

But we're not the creamy center.

a reply to: intrptr

So you do know what he meant........

a reply to: PoetryInMotion

The real world isn't a simulation. The psyop wants you thinking that, though.

The real fakery going on is the lies they tell you on the news, TV and the Internet. They want you believing that stuff. Or believing nothing is real, whichever.

a reply to: PoetryInMotion

ignoring the string theory solution level of self reflection we'd need to be able to prove this as real (we can't really unless some-thing with the evidence just gives it to us)

what about virtualization? which is essentially segmenting and access the real hardware but in an instance with shared access to the same hardware. this could explain the concept of multiple realities

en.community.dell.com...

virtualization would involve taking system A and splitting it into two servers, B and C. Both of these “virtual” servers are independent software containers, having their own access to software based resources – CPU, RAM, storage and networking – and can be rebooted independently. They behave exactly like real hardware, and an application or another computer would not be able to tell the difference.

in my professional life. i always favour virtualization over using "bare metal" systems as it is fast and lets me get more use out of the same hardware without the headaches of setting up new servers each time i want a new service or variation of service. we do it for our desktop environments too.

a reply to: intrptr

This was not what I was talking about with you but thanks for your spontaneous opinion.

a reply to: galien8

THE LIGHT OF ETERNAL MIND!



The only way science will know everything is when it knows God.

a reply to: Davood

Not sure what your point is but you seem to be applying our human concept of a computer to whatever system that would be creating this reality, and is being refered to as "computer".

originally posted by: PoetryInMotion
a reply to: intrptr

This was not what I was talking about with you but thanks for your spontaneous opinion.

Well thank you for not being clear, again.

Who cares?

Whatever it is, we're trapped in it.

a reply to: intrptr

Well thank you for not being clear, again.

What is not clear, you were yapping about emulation tools and your expertise in computer programming when it had nothing to do with the OP, since he was, like you then pointed out yourself, talking about a computer simulation.

If you know he was really talking about a simulation why the anecdotes about emulation tool.

originally posted by: watchitburn
No,
The universe is a twinkie.

But we're not the creamy center.

According to the Big Bang theory, the programmed Universe has a life span yet Twinkies never decay.

Come back in a trillion years and all the Twinkies are the only things left in the rubble of the shopping store or asteroid belt for that matter after the local sun novas.

a reply to: Rapha

false

twinkies last a mere 25 days before they start to go bad

foodreference.about.com...

www.snopes.com...

a reply to: PoetryInMotion

What is not clear, you were yapping about emulation tools and your expertise in computer programming when it had nothing to do with the OP, since he was, like you then pointed out yourself, talking about a computer simulation.

If you know he was really talking about a simulation why the anecdotes about emulation tool.

Ummm.. because the thread title says "emulation"?