Mystery of the Bermuda Triangle Solved?

originally posted by: AlongCamePaul
I am familliar with the occurence over land and it is strong enough to bend young trees over at their stump.

However, the amount of force required to create a rogue wave is immense. We are talking hundreds of tons of mass being shifted in an instant. I don't see anything from the sky with that capability except a hurricane which could easily be seen on doppler.

The effect of waves compounding and syncing in order to create the rogue wave is still an unproven theory.

The one thing we do know is that rogue waves exist.

I saw a show where this scientist built an enclosed area with water and the bed had the smae kind of layout as the bermuda tringle area.... he started the wave machine ..there were all these tiny waves..all of a sudden they came together and made 1 big rough wave (in minature inside the enclosure) it was very interesting

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Perjury

That was the point I was going to bring up.

I have a theory I am working on that explains the effects via a type of induced gravitational anomaly. The thing is, I have not been able to see how the induced fields are created. If the downdraft mentioned were heavily ionized, however, that could be the cause I have been looking for. It requires a specific geometrical arrangement of the electrical and associated magnetic fields that could be created by ionic dissipation under a sufficiently powerful downburst.

So now I'm wondering: could the turbulence creating the downdrafts also be ionizing them? Or is there another process contributing to the effect?

TheRedneck

Hmm, not bad.
A 'downward' gravitational wave (or effect) can be produced in 2 ways, far as i can tell.
One is the displacement of electrical charge through a Dielectric, with the + pole downward, towards the Earth, as in a lifter turned upside down, or even a gravitor powered the wrong way round.

Gravitors use a solid or liquid dielectric, lifters use air which has a dielectric constant (K) of around 1
For comparison, a gravitor can have a K higher than 25,000 and so it's much more efficient than a lifter.

The second method involves higher dimensionsl physics like torsion & Bob Lazar's A & B waves.

For this to have happened naturally, it would have to be an extremely high voltage inversion, given that air only has a K of 1. Normally there would be a lightning discharge before this kind of thing happens.

Another point to consider is that microbursts occur all over the world, but mostly in northern climates where there will be hot & cold layers of air, i can't see that happening in Bermuda, that's more in the Tropics.
But then i'm not a meteothingy ologist.
I reckon if such a thing were to happen, it could create huge induction currents in those clouds, that would explain why the instruments went crazy......
Good theory though, but i have doubts if it happens in our atmosphere.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Said it for me,bro.
A pint of Sharpe's on me

I think the real question is, is the whole thing real at all.

Link

Kusche's Theory

In 1975 Larry Kusche, a librarian at Arizona State University, reached a totally different conclusion. Kusche decided to investigate the claims made by these articles and books. What he found he published in his own book entitled The Bermuda Triangle Mystery-Solved. Kusche had carefully dug into records other writers had neglected. He found that many of the strange accidents were not so strange after all. Often a Triangle writer had noted a ship or plane had disappeared in "calms seas" when the record showed a raging storm had been in progress. Others said ships had "mysteriously vanished" when their remains had actually been found and the cause of their sinking explained. In one case a ship listed missing in the Triangle actually had disappeared in the Pacific Ocean some 3,000 miles away! The author had confused the name of the Pacific port the ship had left with a city of the same name on the Atlantic coast.

More significantly, a check of Lloyd's of London's accident records by the editor of Fate in 1975 showed that the Trianglewas no more dangerous than any other part of the ocean. U.S. Coast Guard records confirmed this and since that time no good arguments have ever been made to refute those statistics. So many argue that the Bermuda Triangle mystery has disappeared, in the same way many of its supposed victims vanished.

I think Kusche is on the right track and far more so than the mythology promoted by authors and media looking for an audience.

a reply to: Blaine91555

That's the point, you do make sense in that, for any natural 'anomaly' to have occurred would mean high winds, temp inversions, high voltages, in short a storm.
And a storm with maybe some higher than usual EM activity would explain a lot of crashes & sinkings.

I long since gave up thinking it wuz A Lee Uns....no evidence of that.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Perjury

That was the point I was going to bring up.

I have a theory I am working on that explains the effects via a type of induced gravitational anomaly. The thing is, I have not been able to see how the induced fields are created. If the downdraft mentioned were heavily ionized, however, that could be the cause I have been looking for. It requires a specific geometrical arrangement of the electrical and associated magnetic fields that could be created by ionic dissipation under a sufficiently powerful downburst.

So now I'm wondering: could the turbulence creating the downdrafts also be ionizing them? Or is there another process contributing to the effect?

TheRedneck

Are we talking about gravitational waves being altered by ionized air bursts?

Perhaps the anomaly on Saturn is in fact a giant natural time machine. Would give more creedence to future humans visiting the past. Afterall, the triangle has had plenty of strange reports from people claiming to see very odd stuff...including ships of the past.

a reply to: playswithmachines

Actually, the dielectric is not a very efficient gravitational field generator. Ionic redistribution inside a dielectric operates by voltage, not current, and thus produces a very weak magnetic flux current. The interaction between electric current (which can be satisfied by the ionic redistribution of charges inside a dielectric) and a magnetic flux current is where the gravitational field is produced. The reason we have not created such fields before is that it is difficult to maintain the needed electrical current in the proper geometric configuration.

That's where my research has stalled. I have spent years trying to figure out how to do it, and how to pay for the needed apparatus.

If a microburst were to contain charged ions, however, the dissipation of a high-enough energy microburst could be sufficient. The effect would be short-lived, however.

TheRedneck

a reply to: OneGoal

We're talking about a gravitational field. That field could be oscillating (gravitational waves) or stable (gravitational force, as in dark matter), or a combination of the two.

Gravity is a current which manifests itself as a force. Time is a function of this current, so any 'artificial' gravitational field will 'warp' time.

TheRedneck

naw, I'm a pilot.....I've seen enough unexplainables...

it's probably not friggin microbursts....huh!!!!

Are their any definite recorded incidents of instruments going haywire in that area? The reason I ask this question is because that whole idea of malfunction navigational equipment began with the radio transmissions from Flight 9. Those aircraft were discovered some years ago and the report of false instrument readings were nothing more than inexperienced pilots incorrectly interpreting readouts.

Thanks.
a reply to: TheRedneck

a reply to: CulturalResilience

I don't think Flight 19 has been discovered yet. There was a discovery back in 1991, but the serial numbers did not match. If I am mistaken, can you post a link?

Also, I am unsure how a discovery of the aircraft could definitively show that no instrumentation anomalies existed. Even if the instrumentation were recovered intact (an impossibility after so long in seawater), a temporary anomaly in localized fields during flight would not necessarily be apparent. Instruments do not have to be physically damaged to respond to anomalies.

These were not inexperienced pilots. It was a military training exercise, and the squadron leader was quite experienced.

That concept of anomalous readings being temporary and localized also makes 'definite' difficult to determine. There have been many many reports of instrument malfunctions in the area. None of these can stand up to strict scientific scrutiny; the very nature of temporary and localized means the anomalies, if they exist, cannot be duplicated in a controlled environment. That means they may not be 'provable,' but it also does not mean they didn't exist. A healthy dose of skepticism is a good thing in investigation, but blind skepticism is not. The sheer number of reports of instrumentation anomalies seems to indicate something unusual is happening sporadically in the area.

TheRedneck

My apologies it was as you say Flight 19. Having just done some checking (I have not yet worked out how to post links on my new laptop) it seems the identity of the suggested discovery is somewhat inconclusive. a reply to: TheRedneck

a reply to: CulturalResilience

No apologies needed. There is a lot of hype published about the Bermuda Triangle, both pro and con. I actually thought I had missed something.

Over the years, I have become convinced that something unusual is happening in that area. I am also pretty sure that whatever that something is, it is a natural phenomenon we do not yet fully understand. My theories can support much of the (anecdotal) evidence, but as I stated, I am still looking for how the correct fields are created. If I can find an answer to that question, perhaps it would present a path to resume active research.

Oh, and links are easy on ATS. Just copy and paste the Web address; the site coding will automatically form a link.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: ElGoobero

I would still think there would still be a trace of wreckage left behind. Not necessarily in the spot where the ship or plane went down.

How do scientists explain this mystery? ...

Bermuda Triangle: Ship Reappears 90 Years After Going Missing

Bermuda Triangle: Ship Reappears 90 Years After Going Missing

Whoa! That's insane! After 90 years the ship is sailing around on it's own with no crew and still sea worthy? Impossible unless..... Something unexplained has some explaining to do on this one

I think there are bubbles or vortexes where time and location in the universe are superimposed somewhere else like the Bermuda triangle, and it is a natural phenomenon.

Thank you kindly. Its actually getting the copy/copy and paste to operate on my new laptop that is causing me the problem, no doubt Ill work it out eventually.
a reply to: TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

yes it operates by voltage not current, and the machanism (as i see it) is a shock or stress to the dielectric.
If the shock is big enough & sharp enough, a fairly strong gravity wave is emitted, Podkletnov did much the same thing with his superconductor discharges.
Well the geometry, yes thats important, that's why a started working with shaped dielectrics, since i can't shape the field, i can shape the wave-generating components to compensate.

Yes these effects are very short-lived. It would seem that the gravity well is produced during the transfer of charge, which is very short, once charged the effect runs down.
I'm not talking about electron flow at this point, i believe the transfer of energy has already taken place even while the first electrons are moving.

That's where my research has stalled. I have spent years trying to figure out how to do it, and how to pay for the needed apparatus.

I hope you are able to continue i had to build a lot of equipment from scratch because it either didn't exist or was too expensive.

If a microburst were to contain charged ions, however, the dissipation of a high-enough energy microburst could be sufficient. The effect would be short-lived, however.

Yes i believe so.
Certainly only a storm would have such energy, so anything happening out of a clear sky would seem impossible.
Except maybe for the phenomenon known as 'atmospheric lensing' of cosmic rays etc which may be responsible for localised areas of heat & or radiation. Evidence for this may be in a brown strip of land where no plants will grow. The strip is caused by the planet turning while the lensed hot-spot stays in place.
Apparently

a reply to: TheRedneck

A healthy dose of skepticism is a good thing in investigation, but blind skepticism is not. The sheer number of reports of instrumentation anomalies seems to indicate something unusual is happening sporadically in the area.

Yes, i think so too.

It's not gravitational waves, it's torsion fields.

Time slips have always been of great interest to me as they are very widespread and there was a great bit of research done by one of our members here on ATS.

ATS Thread

It is a great bit of research and his book is available in the OP in the thread above.

The conclusion of which shows that there is a relationship between high energy torsion fields and time slip events.

The ancient cultures that developed the megalithic and stone structures of the world knew about torsion fields and this is how the Coral Castle was built. Ley lines are natural conduits for torsion energy and the stone structures can be used to create vorticies that can dilate time but also has anti gravity properties.

The Nazi bell was the nazi's experimenting with torsion fields as a form of antigravity propulsion. When they started to experiment with this they found that weird time anomalies occurred and the project was split and project chronos was developed as a side project to the antigravity propulsion.

This was later developed further in the Philadelphia experiment.



One of the most famous cases of time dilation and strange cloud formations was experienced by a pilot named Bruce Gernon over the Bermuda Triangle. I'll let the video explain the story.



Also on the same degree line but in the pacific is the Dragon Triangle which is just as prolific if not more so than the Bermuda Triangle.





These triangles have either natural or un-natural torsion fields that create time dilation/time slips.

a reply to: ElGoobero

The pics remind me of the game Civilization.

a reply to: TheRedneck

m no expert but I understand part of the cause of thunderstorms/lightning is the *vertical* air movement. for whatever reason, the up/down drafts create some kind of electronic / ion issues.
(IIRC lightning actually goes up,not down.)

I have to think up/down drafts of that magnitude could down or turn a ship at the base, and of course all that electric stuff flying around would certainly affect instruments.
today we are so dependent on the instruments that maybe these things affect modern ships more than some older ones.