Wikileaks - Assange Still Alive - Asks Supporters to "Stop Taking Down Internet"

a reply to: proximo

His account is still up.

I don't know about that guy. I'll say this... He appears to be young and like he gets excited very easily. He's also upset more than a few groups and tends to post before he thinks or verifies what he's posted. I don't think he would be involved in anything like that, way beyond him.

Honestly, that attack was beyond most anon and I think that's why Politico was stressing that we don't know who did it and even pointing out that groups will attribute things to themselves erroneously.

I think all Anon info should be taken with a grain of salt as the saying goes.

originally posted by: Noncents
a reply to: proximo

His account is still up.

I don't know about that guy. I'll say this... He appears to be young and like he gets excited very easily. He's also upset more than a few groups and tends to post before he thinks or verifies what he's posted. I don't think he would be involved in anything like that, way beyond him.

Honestly, that attack was beyond most anon and I think that's why Politico was stressing that we don't know who did it and even pointing out that groups will attribute things to themselves erroneously.

I think all Anon info should be taken with a grain of salt as the saying goes.

That said, i gotta admit I have a feeling Assange is taken. These last couple days have been very wierd.
Something really big happened.

I think, the internet outage is a message being sent, by those who what has happend to him.

a reply to: Belgianbeer

I think if he was taken he would release the least juiciest insurance files (or wikileaks would) to establish leverage by showing the nature of the insurance.

a reply to: proximo

Don't most phones have internet access? Wikileaks by the way is not only Julian Assange, there's a few other folks involved.

I really have a hard time believing that cutting his Embassy connection would keep him from accessing the outside world.

originally posted by: jedi_hamster

 

 

I always give stars to anything blocked.

a reply to: Belgianbeer

The insurance files are out and waiting to be un-locked. That would be a stupid move to take out Assange.

The Independent put this up an hour ago.

Lawrence Orans, a research vice president at Gartner specialising in web security and DDoS attacks, agreed with Mr Schneier's analysis. “An attack of this magnitude can’t be executed by a kid in his bedroom,” he said. “It’s more sophisticated than that. A nation state would be a prime suspect.”

The US authorities are thought to be concerned that such attacks could be used in an attempt to somehow disrupt the coming presidential election. The Department of Homeland and Security and FBI were both investigating Friday’s attack, Reuters reported.

Schneier was mentioned in a previous thread today by roadgravel.

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a reply to: Belgianbeer

That's fair. I try to look at all possibilities until there's a verified outcome and it looks like he could be MIA.

That looks like a rational stance until there's a reason to think otherwise.

a reply to: Morrad
That's interesting. For a brief moment during the attack I was able to get on Norse and snipped out a screenshot. If the spin is going to be that it was Russia, I'd like to see some evidence of that. But they won't provide it.

a reply to: Morrad

Well maybe one kid in his basement couldn't pull it off alone, three or four maybe, but I think that we are looking at a large, like minded, highly intelligent and passionate group of people.

Such war mongering should be backed up with hard evidence, not wishful thinking.

originally posted by: Annee
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

When the Rebels start playing God. They become those they rebelled against.

At least they didn't burn down a city and commit multiple hate fueled atrocities against people of other skin colors, assuming it truly was Wikileak supporters causing it.

My guess is that a group has created a huge botnet from a variety of internet connect devices. Every day it seems there is news of more devices that can be compromised and used for this purpose.

I was on the phone with a source, it was someone who has a slot in a organization that deals with national security.

First, 10s of millions of I.P.s (originating) were logged in today's attack.

Here's what struck me as intriguing, "The only entity that had something to gain was the government" and it has......

Secondly, the only entity that has the resources to sustain a attack of this size and scope ( its still under way )
there again is the government.

The Russians and the Chinese were very quick in the AM to deny involvement and the electronic record confirms that.

Are we to believe that a rag-tag bunch of hackers were able to mount a sophisticated attack that is / was far greater than anything that has ever been seen before ???
As well , on a scale greater than or equal to that of nation/state with advanced cyber warfare capabilities.

Gentleman and Ladies, this is a red herring to the Nth degree.

Buck

Here is one of the latest...

This week, the US government-backed ICS-CERT warned that the troubling new generation of computer attacks is powered by malware that can infect cellular modems used to connect automotive and industrial equipment to the Internet.

Over the past month or so, Mirai has infected hundreds of thousands of networked cameras and other so-called Internet of Things devices. It then corrals them into networks that bombard websites with so much data they can't be accessed by legitimate visitors. Mirai is currently one of two known IoT botnet engines that has infected at least 1.2 million devices and is creating some of the biggest distributed denial-of-service attacks ever recorded. The Mirai source code was released to the public two weeks ago, an event that could make the scourge even worse.

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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Annee
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

When the Rebels start playing God. They become those they rebelled against.

At least they didn't burn down a city and commit multiple hate fueled atrocities against people of other skin colors, assuming it truly was Wikileak supporters causing it.

Are you privy to those influenced by Wikileaks?

Hard to say what or how much - - information of this kind - - will have in influencing those who feel the need to act.

a reply to: ghostrager

Interesting.

I don't think Assange supporters are behind the mass-outage...

...or, more precisely, I don't think wikileaks is in a position to state so with any confidence, so soon.

smelly.

a reply to: ghostrager

I just want to make sure I am understanding correctly.

Russia attacks a DNS company that happens to run reddit, twitter, etc. at 7am EST (When A LOT of Americans get up for work)
Russia stops the DNS attack around 9AM EST then restarts the attack at 12PM EST (When A LOT of Americans go to lunch)
Russia downs the internet of most major US cities (See red map)
** Armed men show up at the embassy **

Nothing for 3 hours

Then the tweet "...We ask supporters to stop taking down the US internet. You've proved your point.''

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So the Russian's that hacked our government to interfere with the election by doctoring thee e-mails decided to black out the major US cities around the time when most Americans were getting up for work, and then again, when they were going to lunch?


lol ok

They really think we are stupid.

This is playing out crazy.

Think back to that NBC report 2 weeks ago about the CIA prepping a cyber attack on Russia.

If I were Russia and I wanted to show my contempt for that, I'd be doing something like this as a demonstration of what would happen if such an attack were launched by the CIA.

I'd be extremely impressed if it were Anon or some other Hacktivist group. I just don't think they could pull off an attack so large. It's scale and length of attack seems to point to a nation state.

Thanks for the response RG !!!

The number of devices infected was far, far greater than 1.2 M, we are talking 30-40M or more.

Who has the ability and resources to infect that many devices in such a short time span ???

As well as coordinate such a attack without having any negative effect on critical infrastructure ???

Buck

a reply to: Annee

Your quote there, did you paste that in when people were blocking up highways for hours on end (even jamming up people nearly dying in ambulances), or do you only say that stuff when people slow down the information superhighway?

a reply to: ManufacturedDissent

And how much damage in the end did this cause. Anyone wanting to wage a cyberwar for whatever reason is going to inflict damage. Sending a message is all this was.