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originally posted by: Doctor Smith
Trump Wins The 3rd Debate!
originally posted by: MrSpad
That debate was a disaster for Trump. The GOP has gone into how do we handle him when he loses if he refuses to conceded mode. They are also now moving full on to trying to save the down races. The GOPs current hope is that if they can win some of the Senate and House battles despite a massive defeat for Trump they can claim Trump was never a true Republican and that will some how cleanse the party of his legacy. Trump took his last chance to try and get back in the race and instead made it worse.
originally posted by: Kapriti
The most extraordinary thing about the Drudge poll is that in the past everyone on DailyKos would visit en masse such a poll even as the Free Republic people did the same. With a passion people would try to figure out how to vote multiple times putting their VPNs to use in service to their ideology.
But this time around no one on the Left seems energised enough to try to create a convincing presence in the online polls. With Al Gore and John Kerry the supporters would never give up like this in a dimension of online presence. It is one of those things -- borrowing from the US entertainer Arsenio Hall -- that "makes you go 'Hmmm...'"
originally posted by: dogstar23
a reply to: Doctor Smith
I despise Hillary, but, is there anyone on Earth who actually sees any value in a Drudge poll of who won a debate? Might as well poll people watching the Cubs-Dodgers game over at the Cubbie Bear which team they would prefer win tonight's game.
I bet it would be Cubs a landslide. And I would totally agree with the poll results, because I'm a Cubs fan. Those polls at the Dodger bars in LA are pure garbage!
russia is on the verge of economic collapse, backs up against the wall and they want to be a player on the world stage a superpower if you will
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: conspiracy nut
russia is on the verge of economic collapse, backs up against the wall and they want to be a player on the world stage a superpower if you will
Quite often i hear this argument put forward about Russia being broke....i have no idea and luckily live a long way away from all this mess.....I am just curious to how you came to your conclusion...
i would like to know how it is you are so sure that Russia is in fact broke and is a failing state ?....Do you live there ?...do you know anyone there ?...
Let’s say I’m wrong about Donald Trump wiping out the other 89 minutes of the debate here in Las Vegas with the one minute that he refused to promise to abide by the election results.
Let’s say the corrupt and dishonest media are blowing this up to deflect attention from Trump’s strongest performance against Hillary Clinton.
Let’s say Joe Scarborough, hardly a Trump fan, has a point in declaring on MSNBC: “How many people in Scranton, Pennsylvania care about what he said in that answer, compared to people in newsrooms that are whimpering and whining with their, you know, soy lattes?” (Hey Joe, wasn’t your show sponsored for years by Starbucks?)
The answer is still inexplicable.
It’s inexplicable because the media-savvy billionaire handed his media antagonists a club with which to beat him.
It’s inexplicable because Chris Wallace gave him a chance to retreat after his initial, defiant answer.
It’s inexplicable because the ultra-obvious question came up in debate prep and that was not what Trump’s team wanted him to say. In fact, Kellyanne Conway and Mike Pence, among others, were out on television saying that their guy wasn’t talking about the electoral system being “rigged,” just the incredible unfairness of the media. They stuck to that line even after the boss seemingly contradicted them by tweeting about heavy-duty voter fraud. And Trump surrogates I spoke with made no effort to hide their disappointment at his debate answer.
Fairly or unfairly, the media verdict has been nearly unanimous. Just check out this lead from the AP:
“Threatening a fundamental pillar of American democracy, Donald Trump refused to say Wednesday night that he will accept the results of next month's election if he loses to Hillary Clinton.”
Politico says that “Donald Trump made the biggest mistake of his life. Like most gaffes, this one wasn’t actually a mistake but an honest statement of suicidal sentiment.”
From the left, Slate’s William Saletan has a crazy diagnosis:
“Donald Trump is mentally ill. After 16 months of campaigning and three general election debates, this has become all too clear. Trump sees himself as the victim of a web of conspiracies encompassing House Speaker Paul Ryan, the FBI, the CIA, and the Iraqi military. He sees events in his life—women who claim to have met him, violence by supporters at his rallies—as tentacles of these plots. He refuses to accept the outcome of the election, and he demands that his opponent be jailed, not because Trump is cynical but because he is paranoid.”
From the right, National Review’s Jonah Goldberg says Trump wasn’t even having such a great debate:
“I agree with the already gelled conventional wisdom that Trump’s biggest blunder came when he said we’ll just have to wait and see whether he accepts the results of the election. Whatever arguments you want to make in defense of the response are irrelevant (and judging from the ones I’ve heard on TV, pretty pathetic). He basically gave the media carte blanche to freak out over his answer for at least a week. Don’t get me wrong, I think his answer was awful. But even if I didn’t, it was strategically stupid — unless the goal is to further alienate his core supporters from mainstream American politics in order to create a television network for the ranks of the disaffected (as part of Operation Destroy the GOP).”
originally posted by: Floridagoat
among those who support that "nasty Woman".