The elephant in the room, and why you shouldn't trust anything from wikileaks

Oddly enough everything is probably one massive scam to get the peasants to accept a new world (outsider) leader like the antichrist.

After all Luke 8:17 is now coming true 'For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed...'

So technically the world has been shown that the entire elite cannot be trusted. Then low and behold, the antiChrist steps in, locks them all up in their mansions and the world loves him.

Anyway, who can trust a Klingon (Hillary Klinton) who uses violence first then asks questions later after sending in a drone to take out rigged Truth Sayers in Embassies ?

a reply to: Davood

Good luck with that.

a reply to: network dude

Exactly!

originally posted by: Davood

julian assange is focused on disrupting the United States.

How exactly ?

Something we don't know is if material has been sent to WL but discarded because it doesn't fit an agenda.

Given the internet platform, there are many ways to release information. It may point to WL being something other than what it is claimed to be. What appears on the site doesn't seem to be a wide of range of information.

a reply to: Davood

Reading into the first several replies, I can agree with both the OP and the replies. I believe the leaks are real, but there's a very good chance Assange is a state actor, or even being used / manipulated as one.

The more true content is released, the more easily believable complete fabrications will be if they were to be released. I've believed for a long time that Wikileaks is not quite what it seems.

a reply to: Davood

You sure sound like a shill,I know we get them in here thru the years from the State dept,I say keep your opinions because they don't play out right

OPs: Other people are bad, so we shouldn't look at our own issues.

Doesn't work like that. I like to think that people like Julian are doing a great service by allowing us self reflection. the average patriot in the US likes to tout how we are number 1 (at...stuff). Well, the only way to git gud is self improvment, and no, I dont see anything wikileaks can do that will destroy the country..it will help overall in transparency and oversite..maybe have our politicians think twice before getting into scummy practices.

And the overall effect may be influencing other countries rife with corruption to also start checking themselves else they find themselves one day under their own target.

Assange may have political goals, and may in fact be targetting the US specifically (the US is the punching bag for the world...the rich guy always takes the flak of course), but that will (hopefully) make us tougher...that which does not kill you and the like...

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: Davood

You sure sound like a shill,I know we get them in here thru the years from the State dept,I say keep your opinions because they don't play out right

Are you addressing the ops, or the person who made it?
how does this relate to the opinion presented?
Do you have nothing to say about the thread?

a reply to: dogstar23

He's not in control of what gets leaked to WikiLeaks.

He can't post documents on North Korea et al if nobody sends him any.

Meanwhile, the US not falling into Total Tyranny is tantamount to planet earth. So he should be motivated to ensure the darkest globalist geopolitical force isn't heralded in here lock stock smoking phalanx by the darkest most sinister creature in US POTUS history.

a reply to: Davood

There are no people that value the freedom of speech more highly than in the USA. That may explain why the USA may naturally have more information leaks in comparison to Russia, where they really don't believe in the freedom of speech at all. Russians may believe if you share a state secret showing the commission of a state crime, you should be punished. Certainly we know in Germany there was someone sentenced to jail for her speech that the Holocaust never happened.

Even in the USA, hardly anyone believes 100% in freedom of speech. Even Americans in general believe you should not be able to copy certain words without permission from the government. So, if you see someone sing, you can't also sing something similar without permission of the earlier singer. We also have a system where judges have full authority to sent someone to prison for life for remaining silent on specific topics. In the USA we have a system where judges can send you to jail for swearing, without a trial about the swearing. In the USA you have hundreds of MANDATORY reports as business consisting of speech to the IRS and hundreds thousands of other mandatory forms, which are mandatory speech.

So I expect the people most offended by censorship are the same ones to offer the most leaks. Make no mistake... our rights to free speech are violated even in the United States in a systemic way.

originally posted by: Davood
Let's all agree that corruption, criminal neglect and mishandling of situations exist. And that at least some of the information being dribbled on us is actually legitimate.

julian assange is focused on disrupting the United States. Why not Russia ? North Korea ? China ?

Have you even searched wikileaks for this? Didn't think so...

SMH you've obviously never spent even a minute on Wikileaks before.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: dogstar23

He's not in control of what gets leaked to WikiLeaks.

He can't post documents on North Korea et al if nobody sends him any.

Meanwhile, the US not falling into Total Tyranny is tantamount to planet earth. So he should be motivated to ensure the darkest globalist geopolitical force isn't heralded in here lock stock smoking phalanx by the darkest most sinister creature in US POTUS history.

My point (though maybe not very clear) is that Wikileaks can post real leaks for years. Nothing is stopping them from also leaking false information and having it accepted as true.

It's possible that all of this which has been going on is to build confidence and eventually it could be a very powerful propaganda tool - it could even be a US propaganda tool. Years of building confidence and then a release about Putin experimenting on and molesting Russian children. It's possible -thus, like any information, we shouldn't blindly assume whatever is leaked is real, even if it consistently is for years.

originally posted by: roadgravel
Something we don't know is if material has been sent to WL but discarded because it doesn't fit an agenda.

Given the internet platform, there are many ways to release information. It may point to WL being something other than what it is claimed to be. What appears on the site doesn't seem to be a wide of range of information.

Right.

Do you believe people aren't sending him info on Trump?

a reply to: dogstar23

Okay. We can do endless what-if's on any given subject. meanwhile, if you've been closely following the situation the past couple months as I have been, its increasingly painfully obvious these leaks are real emails, and the Regime is going out f its mind over it.

originally posted by: Annee

Right.

Do you believe people aren't sending him info on Trump?

The MSM does all the anti-Trump trash.

Assange doesn't have to does he.

a reply to: Davood Personally I think the reason we don't see any Trump related material is simple... no one expected him to be a candidate thus put effort into hacking him. Many of the hacked emails are several years old, Hillary has been a juicy target for years. By the time Trump got into the game the threat of being hacked was well known and one could probably assume much emphasis was placed on secure communications right from the getco in their camp.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: roadgravel
Something we don't know is if material has been sent to WL but discarded because it doesn't fit an agenda.

Given the internet platform, there are many ways to release information. It may point to WL being something other than what it is claimed to be. What appears on the site doesn't seem to be a wide of range of information.

Right.

Do you believe people aren't sending him info on Trump?

No, i don't think people are sending him real info on Trump. Wikileaks is not wikipedia, you can't just submit anything you want. It does go through a verrification process. If you do not believe me, try to submit something yourself.

a reply to: Lice000

Which points to agenda...