Democratic heads roll after video shows agitators planted at Trump rallies

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: Vasa Croe

But Foval and Creamer worked together and Foval stated that he got his orders from Creamer...Foval also stated they set up agitator training all over the US, so Creamer signed off on it.

That's quite the logical leap there.

There is a reason Foval was fired and Creamer is still with Democracy Partners.

Logical leap? As in the director doesn't know what the manager is doing? How is that a leap? When you manage a job do you know what your employees do? If not then you SHOULD be fired and likely WOULD be fired when one of them does something illegal under your watch. Ignorance is not an excuse.

Don't worry...it will all come back around to Creamer....

Have you ever worked in the corporate world?

"Something" rolls down hill...ever hear of that before?

In what world do you think the people at the top take the fall for the activities of those at the bottom?

I never said it didn't roll downhill....that also suggests that you understand that the people at the top know exactly what is going on.

I am sure we will see a statement from Creamer discrediting Foval in the coming days. Doesn't change the fact that Creamer was his boss....

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: kruphix

And no, it's not an admission of guilt either...as you can see in his full statement.

Right, because he was going to "step back" regardless?

I've tried to explain this multiple times, but it seems the concept is more difficult to grasp than I expected it would.

He's stepping back to get in front of a manufactured scandal, not because he got "caught" doing something illegal. They quickly fired Foval and now he is removing Democracy Partners from their role with the campaign.

Where does that leave the manufactured scandal and any further videos O'Keefe is going to release?

It leaves it with nothing to talk about really, the two main subjects they were after have already been removed from the situation.

Anywho...this thread has attained retard status for me....I am out....enjoy!

Why the heck is Fox News doing a segment on this tonight, and referring to the "alleged" disruptors, who "allegedly" disrupted a Chicago Trump rally. They show that undercover video, yet refer to everything as ALLEGED. Are Fox News executives being coerced by the Hillary mob machine also?

a reply to: kruphix

Well obviously it is, because if Scott Foval and Robert Creamer would have just had an ounce of personal integrity and told this potential "donor" that NO we don't operate that way but we can talk other strategies, then this thread wouldn't even exist and Foval and Creamer would still be working with the DNC.

originally posted by: LockNLoad
a reply to: kruphix

You're right I have never had to, but I have worked for executives at a large corporation (executive protection and they would talk to me on a personal level because they could trust that I wouldn't gossip) and yes, they have had to kiss a*s, but if anything even remotely illegal was suggested they absolutely shut that down, and the corporation is still making billions. So yes money can be obtained with out being corrupt.

So you think the billion dollar corporation you work for is all on the up and up? And you think because the executives talk to you personally, that you actually know them?

That's quite surprising really.

But I never said that they should go along with anything illegal. But if a donor has a crazy voter fraud scheme, you don't have to agree with it or implement it...just keep telling them that "it is an idea" and push it down the road. That way, you still get their donations...but you don't ever commit to any of their crazy schemes.

originally posted by: carewemust
Why the heck is Fox News doing a segment on this tonight, and referring to the "alleged" disruptors, who "allegedly" disrupted a Chicago Trump rally. They show that undercover video, yet refer to everything as ALLEGED. Are Fox News executives being coerced by the Hillary mob machine also?

Because it is all alleged.

You don't really think that video is proof of anything...do you?

Corrupt media, corrupt candidate, corrupt system.

It's a miracle the opposition even has a chance.

I give a lot of credit to alternative news in these times.


Hillary is going to start a goddam war and the media is helping her do it.

God save us all.

Remember people were shot and injured during
these rigged, staged protests. Collateral damage,
here in the United States, blood on the hands
of these Democrat Operatives.

originally posted by: kruphix

So you think the billion dollar corporation you work for is all on the up and up? And you think because the executives talk to you personally, that you actually know them?

That's quite surprising really.

Maybe it is to you, but in the 25+yrs I worked there Iv'e seen 2 senior executives forced to resign and many middle management fired over very minor internal ethics violations, and ethics and ethics training is like the driving mantra, well diversity and inclusiveness too. The company doesn't even want to take a chance of having some kind of public brouhaha.

But I never said that they should go along with anything illegal. But if a donor has a crazy voter fraud scheme, you don't have to agree with it or implement it...just keep telling them that "it is an idea" and push it down the road. That way, you still get their donations...but you don't ever commit to any of their crazy schemes.

Very Machiavellian, and again maybe that's the problem.

a reply to: LockNLoad

Maybe it is to you, but in the 25+yrs I worked there Iv'e seen 2 senior executives forced to resign and many middle management fired over very minor internal ethics violations, and ethics and ethics training is like the driving mantra, well diversity and inclusiveness too. The company doesn't even want to take a chance of having some kind of public brouhaha.

The only company I can think you work for that makes billions and is that straight would be Disney.

Other than that, I am at a loss.

Very Machiavellian, and again maybe that's the problem.

It's not a problem, it's just how the game is played.

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: kruphix

You see, these people know how to handle a hit job...they don't go on twitter rants or make fun of women's looks who have accused a candidate of sexual assault.

This is called deflection. Generally and indication that you don't have a response to the topic in question.

It's not deflection, it kills the issue.

The video was about Bob Creamer and Scott Foval.

Foval is just dumb, and got fired like he deserved.

Creamer actually didn't say or do anything bad in the video. He actually told Foval to stay far away from the scheme the fake donor was talking about.

But with him stepping back, it makes the video completely irrelevant.

I agree , pure deflection. Know the Alinsky tactics much , do we ?

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: kruphix

And no, it's not an admission of guilt either...as you can see in his full statement.

Right, because he was going to "step back" regardless?

I've tried to explain this multiple times, but it seems the concept is more difficult to grasp than I expected it would.

He's stepping back to get in front of a manufactured scandal, not because he got "caught" doing something illegal. They quickly fired Foval and now he is removing Democracy Partners from their role with the campaign.

Where does that leave the manufactured scandal and any further videos O'Keefe is going to release?

It leaves it with nothing to talk about really, the two main subjects they were after have already been removed from the situation.

Really? We can't talk about the illegal activities they are boasting about because they "lost" their job. sorry that is a lame excuse even for you.

Besides you would have to be an idiot to think these two dirtbags won't surface again, because they were successfully doing their job. In fact I am about 100 percent positive they are still doing there jobs, just for a different entity that is still funded by the dnc.

originally posted by: kruphix

It's not a problem, it's just how the game is played.

See you are a part of the problem, with attitudes like yours governments will continue to get more and more corrupt.

I actually feel kind of sorry for you.

By the way some people react you'd think they work for and adore Creamer & Foval.

a reply to: LockNLoad

Oligarchies survive due to complacency.

Give it 10 more years at most

originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: kruphix

And no, it's not an admission of guilt either...as you can see in his full statement.

Right, because he was going to "step back" regardless?

I've tried to explain this multiple times, but it seems the concept is more difficult to grasp than I expected it would.

He's stepping back to get in front of a manufactured scandal, not because he got "caught" doing something illegal. They quickly fired Foval and now he is removing Democracy Partners from their role with the campaign.

Where does that leave the manufactured scandal and any further videos O'Keefe is going to release?

It leaves it with nothing to talk about really, the two main subjects they were after have already been removed from the situation.

Really? We can't talk about the illegal activities they are boasting about because they "lost" their job. sorry that is a lame excuse even for you.

Besides you would have to be an idiot to think these two dirtbags won't surface again, because they were successfully doing their job. In fact I am about 100 percent positive they are still doing there jobs, just for a different entity that is still funded by the dnc.

Oh, you can talk about it...but it has lost all relevancy to the election.

But feel free to discuss Foval and Creamer all you want.

originally posted by: LockNLoad

originally posted by: kruphix

It's not a problem, it's just how the game is played.

See you are a part of the problem, with attitudes like yours governments will continue to get more and more corrupt.

I actually feel kind of sorry for you.

Governments were corrupt long before people had attitudes like mine.

I don't try to stop the rain on a rainy day, I just use an umbrella. But you go ahead and yell at the sky to stop raining...just don't complain when you are all wet and I am dry.