Could we be in for a shock come November 8th?

KEEP IN MIND, I'm not voting for Trump OR Hillary.

So with that out of the way........

When it comes to elections, the GOP has been faring better against Democrats over the last 7 years, than they ever have previously. In 2010, the GOP took back the House of Representatives with a 63-seat pickup, and also grabbed control of 29 of 50 governorships and gained 690 seats in state legislatures. Then in 2014, The Republicans won 16 seats from Democrats, while only three Republican-held seats turned Democratic. The Republicans achieved their largest majority in the House since 1928. Combined with the Republican gains made in 2010, the total number of Democratic-held House seats lost under Barack Obama’s presidency in midterm elections rose to 77 with the 2014 midterms. Other than Barack Obama’s unimpressive reelection against Mitt Romney in 2012, the Democrats have been losing every type of election imaginable to Republicans…

…The Secret-Trump Vote
Don’t even bother looking at a poll. If they were any accurate or valuable at predicting, then the people who ran them would be billionaires. As we learned from the DNC-WikiLeaks scandal, the Democratic Party and Mainstream Media manipulate polls for nothing other than headlines and talking points, meant to drive narratives and suppress Republican turnout. Instead, think of the facts. In 2012, the voting age population was 235 million, but only 129 million voted. Both parties left a possible 106 million votes on the table. Because of Donald Trump’s candidacy, all the rules have been thrown out. We’ve seen that few of the old political playbook tricks work against him. Money being spent by his opponents have all gone to waste. We saw every single professional political pundit in the country get the entire primary season wrong – on both sides. The media and their phony polling consultants don’t have any clue what turnout will look like. If they did, they wouldn’t have bungled their Trump and Clinton predictions so badly in the primaries. What we do know is that Trump is attracting voters from all over the map and into the Republican fold, just to vote for him. It’s how he unexpectedly massacred 16 opponents in the primary. It’s how he will massacre Hillary Clinton in the general election. When the media tells you that this race is close or that Hillary is leading, just simply laugh it all off.

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Keep in mind, that isn't the first place I have seen this narrative. I've seen it here on these forums too and elsewhere. But I keep seeing this float around. About don't be shocked if Trump wins in a landslide due to a lot of "unknowns" with his supporters and what people call the "silent majority" so to speak and that is what people called the "Trump Phenomena" back during the GOP. So basically, a lot of people are saying to ignore the current polls and just wait for it, because its coming and it'll shock a lot of people when it does happen.

A LOT of people who support Trump, don't do it openly. We see his crazy supporters all the time on TV and whatnot - But what about the ones we don't see?

I mean, look around you. Depending on when you are, you're going to see more Trump supporters then Hillary supporters. Its always Trump. Trump's rally's fill up entire Football stadiums with standing room only and more waiting outside to get in. Hillary barely fills up ballrooms and cafeterias.

*COULD* there be something to this?

*shrug*

a reply to: Bloodydagger

Keep in mind, that isn't the first place I have seen this narrative. I've seen it here on these forums too and elsewhere.

Of course it's not the first time this narrative has floated around. The idea that there will be some surprise upset from the loser in the polls is literally spun every 4 years, yet it never happens. Even Ronald Reagan's resurgence toward the end of his election was reflected in the polls.

I think the surprise will be Utah and maybe another state falling to a third party candidate.

That, plus Trump losing in traditional Republican strongholds.

What won't be a surprise is the near-immediate launch of Trump TV.

a reply to: Bloodydagger

Absolutely there could be something to it. Trump supporters are marginalized as stupid, racist, xenophobic, homophobic and Islamophobic, which could cause people to lie at the polls so as not to appear as one of those.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I agree with his assessment. +1

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

It's being said that there are up to 10 million 'closet' Trump voters. We'll find out soon.

a reply to: ColeYounger

It's being said that there are up to 10 million 'closet' Trump voters. We'll find out soon.

I am still in the closet as a Trump supporter, except around ATS.

originally posted by: ColeYounger
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

It's being said that there are up to 10 million 'closet' Trump voters. We'll find out soon.

I heard that quote too, I forget where, but it also said that number might balloon between now and vote time. It does make you wonder.

Don't forget about the Democrats silent majority. They are out there, in every town, lurking. You never hear from them, but come election day, they will rise from their graves and vote Democrat.

Meme idea.

Picture of a gravestone with an I voted sticker on it.

Everything else aside, knowing what we do now, what does it tell us if this actually happens? To not trust polls anymore ever and the MSM is full of bullcrap? (Which most of us already knew)

But in the GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, what would that tell us if this happens?

a reply to: MisterSpock

How come we don't see them even on the internet?

a reply to: Bloodydagger

You may not be Voting but keep in mind, this could be the last Election where you have a candidate who has power equivalent to the assholes who've run half the planet into hell.

I Vote Trump, and i never Vote.

a reply to: Bloodydagger

The real shock would be if Clinton won, the most unpopular and discredited politician ever...



The polls are rigged to demoralize Republican's into thinking there's no point voting and to try and create some sort of feel good factor and momentum for Clinton, it's not working.

a reply to: Sigrun

That's something else I keep seeing too............

a reply to: Bloodydagger

" A LOT of people who support Trump, don't do it openly. We see his crazy supporters all the time on TV and whatnot - But what about the ones we don't see? "




There are Millions of them , and they will keep their Thoughts on this Election " Close to the Vest " Until they Actually walk into a Voting Booth . Believe it or not , Most People Do not Give a Damn about what someone , who they do not Know Personally , asks them about Anything . You have to be a Member of the " Friendship Club " before you hear anybody tell you anything of Substance you can Believe .

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Bloodydagger

Keep in mind, that isn't the first place I have seen this narrative. I've seen it here on these forums too and elsewhere.

Of course it's not the first time this narrative has floated around. The idea that there will be some surprise upset from the loser in the polls is literally spun every 4 years, yet it never happens. Even Ronald Reagan's resurgence toward the end of his election was reflected in the polls.

And yet, the polls were wrong about Brexit. The polls and media were VERY wrong about Trump through the primaries.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ColeYounger

It's being said that there are up to 10 million 'closet' Trump voters. We'll find out soon.

I am still in the closet as a Trump supporter, except around ATS.

We would like to openly support him, but we're afraid of damage to our house or even violence against us. How screwed up is that?

So forget the October Surprise, could we be in for a November Surprise? It seems like some folks think yes.

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Bloodydagger

Keep in mind, that isn't the first place I have seen this narrative. I've seen it here on these forums too and elsewhere.

Of course it's not the first time this narrative has floated around. The idea that there will be some surprise upset from the loser in the polls is literally spun every 4 years, yet it never happens. Even Ronald Reagan's resurgence toward the end of his election was reflected in the polls.

And yet, the polls were wrong about Brexit. The polls and media were VERY wrong about Trump through the primaries.

How many times are the polls wrong versus correct? You guys like touting Brexit like its the end all be all that disproves ALL polling forever. Yet polls are largely good predictors of the outcome of an election. All the failings of Brexit polling shows is that we need to analyze what went wrong with the Brexit polls. It doesn't allow you to look questionably at all future polling though (especially since the polls done for Brexit and the polls done for this election didn't all come from the same polling companies).

HOWEVER, if you can actually locate some problems with the science of statistics then maybe you'd have an argument about polling being flawed.