Project veritas part 2 Rigging the election

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Wait, I thought he's at the head of it? Or was it Putin? You know how Nationalists love to be stooges for other nations. Or is Trump just a Conspiracy Theorist? I can't tell where the clown car starts or stops anymore.

So let's get what is going on in the video straight.

1. Project Veritas has a "fake donor" meet with Scott Foval.
2. The FAKE DONOR, pitches a plan about creating a voter registration fraud by using his company to register people in different states.
3. Scott Foval, goes along with his story and "brainstorms" with him.
4. Scott Foval sends him to Bob Creamer to talk about the "plan"
5. Bob Creamer tells him he has to talk to his lawyers because it sounds like a voter fraud scheme
6. Bob tells Scott, we aren't going to touch this with a 10 foot poll
7. Scott tells fake donor that he should talk to Vargas
8. Fake donor speaks to Vargas about the plan, and he brushes them off for this election and says let's see what happens.

Here's the key element, this "reporter" is pretending to be a donor.

With that in mind, everything that happens in the video makes perfect sense. Entertain the donor's crazy ideas to get his money, while keep pushing him off on someone else. Faking interest in order to get his donation.

In the end, what this video shows are these people REJECTING this fake reporters idea of a voter fraud scheme.

a reply to: Grambler

They'll just do it like they did Hillary. They'll lay it all out and it'll be a textbookcase ready to prosecute, and then they'll recommedn no prosecution because he didn't intend to do anything wrong. He was just a very civic-minded citizen who was super concerned with the well-being of the country!

a reply to: kruphix

Wowie!

Foval was carrying on and on about all his background in staging this kind of stuff. He's boasts being the 20 year veteran in the DNC's 50 years of vote rigging schemes.

But carry on, and on.

EDIT: Nice double post trick btw the way. I see you embrace rank rigging even in the thread about poll rigging.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
I thought they were telling us vote-rigging was false.

From CNN earlier today:

Given the evidence Trump has supplied, we rate his claim that large scale voter fraud exists as FALSE.

Reality Check: Trump's claims of voter fraud

Trump vindicated?

To be completely fair - this video does not prove "large scale" voter fraud is occurring. Only that some voter fraud has occurred and that these democratic operatives are more than willing to do it on a large scale if tasked to.

a reply to: proximo

To be completely fair - this video does not prove "large scale" voter fraud is occurring. Only that some voter fraud has occurred and that these democratic operatives are more than willing to do it on a large scale if tasked to.

That is fair. Agreed.

P2,

a reply to: proximo

However, the mere fact that within hours of the first video's release, the idea that this guy was fired should tell you something.

He was central to organizing efforts for several larger activist groups across a decent sized territory.

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: JacKatMtn

Not to take away from the video, but the GOP have been manipulating voting districts for just as long as Democrats have.

Gerrymandering is an accepted practice on both sides.

~Tenth

true, gerrymandering is well known in Republican dominant districts.

originally posted by: LifeMode

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: JacKatMtn

Not to take away from the video, but the GOP have been manipulating voting districts for just as long as Democrats have.

Gerrymandering is an accepted practice on both sides.

~Tenth

You are taking away from it. Not even commenting on it. Made a B line right in the other direction. Both parties gerrymandering. Obama lost his first election. After that they re-org the districts. Bingo. He wins the next one.

No, it's fair, because people on here are falsely writing as if this is primarily a democrat thing. That's called a lie by omission.

Obama told me that everything is all right.

I don't think video 2 is anywhere near as powerful as video 1.
Whilst there were some admissions of what they do already, there was not a 'bite' on the under cover reporters propositions.
Not really that revealing as anyone with an ounce of intelligence already knows voter fraud is a given in any election. We just don't know the scale and still don't after the video.

The precursor to this video on voter fraud, with the president of the election committee in Manhattan (released a week ago) was much more revealing IMO.

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: JacKatMtn

Not to take away from the video, but the GOP have been manipulating voting districts for just as long as Democrats have.

Gerrymandering is an accepted practice on both sides.

~Tenth

And the award for ATS's best thread derailment goes to Tenth. bravo.

a reply to: UKTruth

Rambo II was not as good as the first either but they still made two more of them. It still makes money.

originally posted by: LifeMode
a reply to: UKTruth

Rambo II was not as good as the first either but they still made two more of them. It still makes money.

LOL, there are actually 4 more to come.. hope it's not just this Foval guy. Maybe they will kill him off in the next film

"Gerrymandering" in reference to busing people around to vote more than once?

I call it TREASON.

Federal Prison is where they should end up.

Need to be made examples of, all these people doing all this corruption stuff. When they know they can get away with it they will get on with it.

originally posted by: UKTruth
I don't think video 2 is anywhere near as powerful as video 1.
Whilst there were some admissions of what they do already, there was not a 'bite' on the under cover reporters propositions.
Not really that revealing as anyone with an ounce of intelligence already knows voter fraud is a given in any election. We just don't know the scale and still don't after the video.

The precursor to this video on voter fraud, with the president of the election committee in Manhattan (released a week ago) was much more revealing IMO.

Yeah, I agree, I was disappointed especially with the way oKeefe was pumping this one up as the bigger deal.

And I also agree, the New York commisioner video was really more damning than this one in many ways.

a reply to: proximo

Yeah, this one was pretty disappointing compared to the 1st video. This series is starting to have the feel of O'Keefe's highly dubious ACORN and Planned Parenthood videos.

We've got the Veritas reporter posing as a donor, pitching voter fraud, and getting his fraud suggestions shut down and/or strung along as a 'possibility' for some future election.

The partisan nature of it also leaves a bad taste from both videos. If one is truly concerned about things like voter fraud tactics, and 'consultant firms' doing the running between PACs and campaigns, then ignoring that both parties use these underhanded methods doesn't serve the greater good. He's not digging deep enough.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Lookie here:

One less snake in the swamp: Crooked Bob Creamer Resigns After O'Keefe Video

Free Republic



James O.Keefe tweet

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Interesting how they all seem to be resigning.
The fact they have been involved for the last year, deceiving people, is the key point though. This guy is a real scumbag in the first video, but at least shows some restraint in the second.

You missed his full quote - he called his conversations 'hypothetical and careless'. Is there any Democrat who is not careless. I am sure if they were caught killing someone they'd say they were just being careless.