Project veritas part 1 Rigging the election

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Gryphon66

Actually it doesn't lend credibility to anything. Even if he is a creep. Democrats are notoriously spineless and try to shut down anything that makes them look bad, quickly... like just a bit too eager to admit fault. Remember ACORN? The very asshole behind their take down is the same one here. ACORN and the people fired/resigned over that later to be found completely innocent, barely a one Democrat came forward after to try to refund them or compensate for wrongful terminations.

O'Keefe is a lying little weasel and this entire thread is full of ignorant morons for believing him... yet again.

Fair points all.

I'm going to leave y'all to it. Had enough of this post-fact hellscape for a lifetime.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: UKTruth

Trump doesn't deny saying any of these things...

LOL

Highly edited!? Even gasbag doesn't claim this. Did you hit your head?

The Trump tape was edited and clipped. The sex abuse broadcasts have been complete with mood music. They are highly edited.

The people on this video can't possibly deny saying what they said, unless you are suggesting that their voices were digitized and new words replaced. This is not a news paper article. They are on video, conspiring.
It is plain nonsense to close your ears to it just because you don't like the guy who caught them out. and none of that kind of deflection is going to work.

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: kruphix

Oh, so now since you have no leg to stand on you bring up Trump supporters. I asked you, please, show me a video with Trump supporters at a HRC or Bern rally chasing and attacking people outside. C'mon. Where is it????

I excuse nothing. If a Trump supporter hit someone for no reason i would demand they be charged. Unprovoked attacks are not cool. A sucker punch is a scared mans way of fighting.

Like I said, I don't think you watched the video.

The entire video is about them sending controversy protesters in to Trump rallies, and they are guaranteed that the Trump supporters will violently react.

So this entire thread is about Trump supporters violently reacting, and Trump supporters being angry that the Democrats were smart enough to take advantage of this weakness...but it seems you don't want to talk about the actual topic.

So, you're fine with the same tacticts that westboro baptist uses? Like sending instigators into military funerals to start fights? I don't see any difference.

EXCELLENT POINT.
I'd love to hear some responses from Hillary supporters to your question.
Wouldn't the rest of you?

EXCELLENT POINT.
I'd love to hear some responses from Hillary supporters to your question. Wouldn't the rest of you?

Yes and I'd also like some one(preferably Gryphon66, Kuphix, or Kali74) to answer this:


They admit to training agitators and using the mentally unstable to create these atmospheres, is this not domestic terrorism?

How could it not be considered a terrorist act to fund, train, transport and encourage acts of violence against fellow Americans?

originally posted by: ManufacturedDissent
EXCELLENT POINT.
I'd love to hear some responses from Hillary supporters to your question. Wouldn't the rest of you?

Yes and I'd also like some one(preferably Gryphon66, Kuphix, or Kali74) to answer this:


They admit to training agitators and using the mentally unstable to create these atmospheres, is this not domestic terrorism?

How could it not be considered a terrorist act to fund, train, transport and encourage acts of violence against fellow Americans?

Especially considering the actions described above are being used for political ends.

You'll just get more prevarication and deflection. Head-in-the-sandism is a big thing.

originally posted by: EightAhoy
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Something about how candid they were felt odd to me.

Odd appropriately describes my sense of the video.

I know neither the operatives featured in the video, nor O’Keefe and his body of work. My Pollyanna ego wants to believe it is nothing more than a training video. Theater, to demonstrate how easily you can be cornered, compromised, or caught in a trap. After all, how could anyone be so careless to make such incendiary remarks that reveal how the bowels of a campaign churn? Then the cynic in me cries, "Oh, how dark and devious!" And my stomach churns in protest over what the video represents.

Veritas? “The truth is rarely pure and never simple.” ~Oscar Wilde

Very odd. It feels dramatized.

O'Keefe is a progressive radical. So are the people he's 'exposing.' O'Keefe has made it clear he is definitely not a conservative. Link

I don't believe all was as it seemed with the ACORN videos, either. And, again, O'Keefe managed to get some wild stuff on video then, too. You should take a look at them. He's wearing a pimp costume and it's just unimaginable that anyone would fall for what he claims he was doing.

I just can't take this at face-value. 'Too good to be true' leaps to mind.

Is it possible that O'Keefe and his team managed to get these guys to spill their guts in such a heinous way? Sure. But I would think this kind of operation would be closely guarded.

I am leaning toward controlled-opposition on this one.

a reply to: ManufacturedDissent


I remember saying at the time that these protesters were domestic terrorists and sparking lots of debate. The fact we now know they were trained and organised for the specific purpose of inciting violence and disrupting a political event just strengthens the view that yes, they are domestic terrorists.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

He's wearing a pimp costume and it's just unimaginable that anyone would fall for what he claims he was doing.

I can imagine it.
With all of Hillary's baggage... people still think she cares about them.

a reply to: ManufacturedDissent

And with that you validate the Patriot Act.

As for the question posed by woodcarver: I'm not a Hillary supporter but I guess I'm fine with any legal tactic, even in Westboro style, because it is a product of freedom.

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

YEp, our military's advanced weaponry worked SO WELL in afghanistan...Please come back to me when you know something about military tactics and weaponry. I was military intelligence for many years.

Jaden

To all you who wont let go of the source guy, keep bringing up some old tape he did, please do make transcript for this one. As you play it, where you can see cuts jot them into the thing, post it up and we can all 'finally' see for ourselves.

a reply to: apoc36

By reading all of your comments, you think it's ethical and you condone them paying people to organize protests to cause violence and harm among Trump supporters?

No where in the video does it suggest that they are paying people to cause harm to Trump supporters. If anything, they know by protesting that the Trump supporters may cause harm to them.

But yes, I do condone them paying people to organize protest. There is absolutely nothing unethical about that.

Those ignorant Trump supporters that happen to be passionate about their country are just dumbed down people who deserve it huh?

Deserve what, to attack protesters at Trump events? Because you do know that is what is happening right?

a reply to: Woodcarver

So, you're fine with the same tacticts that westboro baptist uses? Like sending instigators into military funerals to start fights? I don't see any difference.

I see a huge difference, specifically the subject matter they are protesting.

It's not the tactics that make Westboro protesters vile, it is their beliefs.

Ffs, they are not protesting you daft idiot.... they are solely there to pick a fight. How is that ok?

But of course this machiavellian attitude of the clinton machine is becoming very obvious. The ends justify the means.... #facepalm democracy, really.

I dont give s about Trump, he's a fool. But Im sickened to death by the Clinton side closing their eyes to ALL this bs from their side. What the # is wrong with you? Have you no moral code? No self respect?

I hopr none of them wins and I hope that whatever it is Clintons is suffering from medically will claim her life sooner than later.

a reply to: [post=21389421]kruphix[/p

Like I said, it's not their fault that Trump supporters can't control their emotions.

How funny. I tell you something kruphix, you are likely to see a little more than uncontrolled emotions if the criminals you support keep pushing and winning through unethical practice. Like a pushy selfish child, the agitator is always surprised when the belt comes off.

originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

YEp, our military's advanced weaponry worked SO WELL in afghanistan...Please come back to me when you know something about military tactics and weaponry. I was military intelligence for many years.

Jaden

We didn't use by any means the full power of our military.. It wasn't a full scale war, nor on our own soil. Apples to oranges. But you would know that, if you were "military intelligence."

originally posted by: Fools
a reply to: [post=21389421]kruphix[/p

Like I said, it's not their fault that Trump supporters can't control their emotions.

How funny. I tell you something kruphix, you are likely to see a little more than uncontrolled emotions if the criminals you support keep pushing and winning through unethical practice. Like a pushy selfish child, the agitator is always surprised when the belt comes off.

unethical practice?????.....how about republicans gleefully using private STOLEN information from a foreign source?.....I hope ALL OF YOU REPUBLICANS have your most personal information hacked and put out on the internet

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Fools
a reply to: [post=21389421]kruphix[/p

Like I said, it's not their fault that Trump supporters can't control their emotions.

How funny. I tell you something kruphix, you are likely to see a little more than uncontrolled emotions if the criminals you support keep pushing and winning through unethical practice. Like a pushy selfish child, the agitator is always surprised when the belt comes off.

unethical practice?????.....how about republicans gleefully using private STOLEN information from a foreign source?.....I hope ALL OF YOU REPUBLICANS have your most personal information hacked and put out on the internet

Boohoo.
I'll take a thief over the criminality of the democratic party any day.

Wikileaks includes a document showing one of the people in the video being paid by the Hillary for America PAC.
All doubts removed.

Second video released in 20 minutes time.