Why do women’s groups treat Bill Clinton and Donald Trump differently?

originally posted by: ketsuko
All right, as a woman, I'll explain it.

Thank you. I hope other women will participate as well.

originally posted by: Bloodydagger
Just hope order is restored in 2020 because I think Hillary and Trump both are only one term Presidents. I don't think the Left can put anyone out there in 2020 to contend with the roster that the GOP will have. Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio...one of those three are destined to win in 2020. I think the GOP has 2020 in the bag personally. Sanders wont run again. Hillary is a one termer. Who else does the Left have? The Castro brothers? Elizabeth (LOL) Warren?

Derailing your own thread now?

FWIW, I agree with you about Clinton being a one-term President.

I fail to see how Little Marco, Lyin' Ted or Mr. Speaker Milquetoast are going to be viable.

(Hard line Republicans seem to hate Ryan.)

a reply to: Bloodydagger

So you would discount the possibility that someone will take up where Sanders left off? Because I think it would be odd if there is no one with the will and drive to get it done, in the whole of America, who recognised the fact that Sanders could very well have been the greatest President that the American people never had.

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a reply to: Gryphon66

well remember now, there's been people who've been providing these politicians with lavish parties, drugs, and prostitutes (men, boys, women, girls, adults and minors) for decades and keeping little black books and taping them secretly. it's kind of easy to out these guys....just remind them of that cute little 12 year old that they bruised so badly and tell them it was videotapped and well, the puppet strings are attached!

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Gryphon66

well remember now, there's been people who've been providing these politicians with lavish parties, drugs, and prostitutes (men, boys, women, girls, adults and minors) for decades and keeping little black books and taping them secretly. it's kind of easy to out these guys....just remind them of that cute little 12 year old that they bruised so badly and tell them it was videotapped and well, the puppet strings are attached!

I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Mike Pence will run in 2020 I bet too.

But lets look at Cruz. He came out on stage at the GOP and said basically "Very soon, i'll be able to say I told you so" to the entire GOP. So if hes proven right and its looking like he will, hes going to have a lot of backing in 2020 and be the establishment favorite. Right now, you're having a lot of GOP wish they had the balls to do what Cruz did. Ted Cruz is looking like a messiah to some of these people right about now.

And Ted Cruz had a very good message this past time around. People were just blinded by the Trumpmania.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Bloodydagger
a reply to: Gryphon66

All.

Name me one that isn't.

Reminds me of Sarah Palin.

What people the media and the left did to Palin was inexcusable and her family.

It still makes me see red.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Its yet to be seen. Bernie Sanders types don't come around that often. So unless someone rides Sanders coattails and doesn't mean it the way Sanders meant it, then no, I don't see it happening. Whoever does pick up where Sanders leaves off, has to mean the message and put it out there like Sanders did. But I think some DINO or RINO will come along and faux message us using Sanders terminology and fail at it.

I think 2020 will end up being a very typical/standard election and it will pale in caparison to what we see now.

originally posted by: Greggers
Because most of us lived through the Clinton stuff in the 90s and made up our minds about it a long ass time ago, that's why. Plus, we haven't heard anything new in 20 years, and during that time no further allegations have surfaced.

This is pretty much the stance that I take (and that women like me have taken.) Yes, he was a philandering scumbag but he seems to have kept a low profile on it since then - and there's been many opportunities for him to trip. Additionally, he has not gone around talking about women's worth in terms of their appearance and he is on record for supporting things like the Equal Rights Amendment.

Most importantly, he's NOT running for President. His wife is. If she becomes President, he knows he'll be living in a fishbowl and anything he does that has the slightest appearance of impropriety (like wink at a woman) is going to be splashed all over the tabloids... so he's got to walk carefully. His leash will be held not only by his wife, but by the paparazzi and everyone else out there.

His wife hasn't engaged in "locker room talk" on tape, hasn't bragged about hot men and all the things she's done on celebrity talk shows, hasn't made excuses to go into mens' locker rooms just to ogle them. What she HAS done is talk policy, lay out plans for what she hopes to achieve, stayed on topic and on target in answering questions, has worked politically for a lot of issues I care about (including disability rights and minimum wage raises), and isn't known for cheating hundreds of contractors out of their fees.

Oh...and she pays taxes and has released her tax forms.

One thing mentioned by women on my Facebook page is that Trump is a "gaslighter." Many of them have seen this kind of behavior in abusive boyfriends/husbands and they find his gaslighting to be very creepy.

a reply to: Gryphon66

have you read about the king/boy's town deal...
where they were exploiting the kids at boys town and yes, they were secretly recorded.
then there's trumps and clinton's friend....he was taping and keeping a little black book or records.

all for blackmail purposes.

lol...those who talk about hillary covering up the alleged rapes of clinton or her threats to them, ain't seen nothing. they investigated the boys town thing, there is an impressive list of people dying mysteriously, investigator, the family member of one of the victim, one of the victims himself, I believe, and oh ya, they threatened the ones who were left standing with jail and actually did send one girl to jail because she wouldn't admit she was lying.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Bloodydagger
a reply to: Gryphon66

All.

Name me one that isn't.

Reminds me of Sarah Palin.

What people the media and the left did to Palin was inexcusable and her family.

It still makes me see red.

What the media did ... you mean giving her (and Bristol) a career that made millions for a few years?

Not bad for gals from Wasilla, AK if you ask me.

a reply to: dawnstar

Its common knowledge that sex rings (of all types) is common within the political realm. There are some dirty men and women in politics.

a reply to: Bloodydagger

Cruz can't attract enough Independents to win I don't think. Pence would have the same problem.

I was actually respecting Ted in his approach to Trump ... until he knuckled under.

"Trumpmania" ... what an exquisite way to put it! LOL. Exactly.

originally posted by: Bloodydagger

originally posted by: Floridagoat
a reply to: Gryphon66

You're a special kind of stupid. Your bias blinder's are absolutely disgusting. I feel sorry for anyone in your circle in real life that sides with your line of reasoning.

I bet you'd be the same as Hillary, defending your spouse even when you know they're deviant and guilty.

That is the Left for you. Defend defend defend, deflect deflect deflect even when smoke, fire, destruction and guilt is going on all around you.

I'm not sure if I can smell desperation or BS whenever you post - tell me, do they smell the same?

a reply to: uncommitted

Desperation of what? I'm not voting for Hillary or Trump.

Here is a picture of Hillary groping a man on stage, where is the outrage

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Floridagoat
a reply to: Gryphon66

Why did Bill's accusers accuse him right then?

Why are Trumps accusers coming out of the wood work 30 years later?

Don't deflect dear, it makes you look unintelligent.

When you have Bill Clinton on tape, admitting to attempted rape and sexual abuse, let us know.

Funny, you deflect by accusing me of deflection. LOLOL.

I think you're confused. I remember hearing on the tape that he "could", not that he "DID".

He never said... "Yeah, I walked right up and grabbed their who has".

I think you're only hearing what you want to hear. I imagine, if he DID and admitted it, he would be in prison right now. It wouldn't just be people claiming he did those things, he would actually be pulled in to court so fast his head would spin.

but... no court cases? No judges? No jail? Hmmm....

With Clinton, he was just protected because of who he was at the time. Must be something about the Clintons that no one wants to get them in court. Oh wait.. the ones that do end up dead, broken. suicided and trashed to the point of no return. As in... literally couldn't get a job at walmart after!

So Clinton's accusers... Nah.. No such thing.

But Trumps accusers... of course!

Wonder what those same people think about Cosby...

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Bloodydagger
a reply to: Gryphon66

All.

Name me one that isn't.

Reminds me of Sarah Palin.

What people the media and the left did to Palin was inexcusable and her family.

It still makes me see red.

What the media did ... you mean giving her (and Bristol) a career that made millions for a few years?

Not bad for gals from Wasilla, AK if you ask me.

What went on at the time was an outrageous

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Here is a picture of Hillary groping a man on stage, where is the outrage

That's so AWESOME! Might have been her way of trying to hide that she really is Lesbian? Maybe she's really Bi?

Oh but this was ok because it was consensual, just like Bill's flings were supposedly all consensual. Yeah, all those ladies were wrong when they screamed rape. Bill couldn't possibly! lol