My Silence. Politics. 2016. Trump. Hillary. I Need A Freaking Drink

originally posted by: Skid Mark
I can't wait until this crap show is all over.

It starts right back up again on November 9th with excuse making and laying the groundwork for the next election's repackaged policies and another s****y candidate.

a reply to: Hefficide

Good post/rant ...Unlike Dorothy who only had to endure a feeble old man behind the curtain ,the world is getting a full view of the complete ugliness of it all . The experiment running its coarse and seemingly coming to a end may not be a bad thing .Lessons learned I guess but unlike a leg or a arm infected with a cancer where you can just cut off the bad part the USA may have to die in order for the world to live .

The Donald may be the fastest way for that to happen .The Hill may be a longer and more painful death that allows the experimenters to move to USA 2.0 . Hell of a thought eh ?

The answer to all our problems, and to reunification of america is so simple it's looking us right in the face.

Merge the parties, run a Trump/Hillary ticket.

That would short out a few brains, be good for a laugh IMO.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
I know. It's bad when you start wishing for a giant asteroid or something to put an end to it all.

a reply to: Hefficide

Yep. We're on a tiny Island of Sanity in a Sea of Hysteria. And the tide is rising...

originally posted by: Skid Mark
I know. It's bad when you start wishing for a giant asteroid or something to put an end to it all.

Well, I would settle for a medium sized asteroid that lands on all the candidates.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Skid Mark
I can't wait until this crap show is all over.

It starts right back up again on November 9th with excuse making and laying the groundwork for the next election's repackaged policies and another s****y candidate.

Too true. It will be interesting to see how the congressional races turn out since we've heard nothing about them for the most part. Seeing as how congress has the approval rating of a cockroach infestation, I'm curious to see who keeps their asses in seats.

originally posted by: the owlbear
It will be interesting to see how the congressional races turn out...

It will turn out splendidly if you are a lobbyist.

a reply to: kosmicjack

I check the water level everyday, and you are correct. It's gotten so that I have to move my tiki bar a few feet further up the sand every so often.

Heff.... and please accept a very belated Happy Birthday from me.... may I recommend a new seasonal favorite of mine, Captain Morgan's Jack-O-Blast? Pumpkin Spice Rum. An exquisite morning ..... or any time of day..... coffee additive.

Well, it has been a great run, folks. I've signed up for the Bernie Revolution, so maybe there is hope yet. It's a start, a new start. My Life is great. My kids' lives will never be this good, but it is their job to do battle now, if they so accept.

a reply to: Hefficide
I concur with you 100% and then some. It is so frustrating to be a literate and educated person having to sit back and watch the madness.

Of course people would say to that, be the change you want to be. That's all fine and dandy, but where the heck does one start?

I refuse to vote for the lesser evil as I find that totally senseless. I don't care for either third party, so they are out of the question too. I'm sure as heck not going to run for office.

My vote is very important to me and I truly believe it is meant for the BEST person and someone I BELIEVE in. Obviously I'm not believing in anyone in this race and I'll be damned if I use my vote that many have died for the right for me to have it, and give it to someone that turns my stomach just because...

No, I will not. So.... Here I am stuck, frustrated, and as silent about it as you and others.

All I do know is the world will keep turning weather I vote or not. My little world is so small, I highly doubt I'll notice the difference either way as I will just go about my business as I have all these past years. Mind my own business and just live my life in my own peaceful way.

I do wish there was a way for us "Silent" people to find our own voice though....oddly this is one time it doesn't seem to be speaking louder than words sadly.

And, before I forget, good to hear some of your words of wisdom again fella

a reply to: Hefficide

I have been contemplating making a rant thread also for quite some time, but I couldn't have said it any better !

I remember when an election was about the things the candidates planned on doing.?

I can't tell you what either candidate stands for this time around, the mud slinging and back stabbing is just disgusting. I'm pretty much embarrassed to be an american.

and I've decided I'm not voting for the POTUS. I'll vote for the other stuff, but I'll leave that part blank. Be damned if I get the blame.

I'll join you for a drink in a few hours, Heff

This OP makes sense. The entire situation is bizarre....


....and it gets in your head.

Just yesterday,my mind was blown for a second while watching "Gunsmoke". Heard Festus holler at Matt to 'get the posse' and thought for a moment another Trump tape had surfaced.

Whew.

I'm tempted to lay off the political news for a while.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

He said rum! But your will is good. So I will let it slide... this time!

Heff did you see this??

originally posted by: Encryptor
Only Joking...
You've gotta love some of the signs you see in passing

For those that want a good laugh: ATS source link

Yeah, I know how you feel. I feel your pain. And leave it to mob rules that we find ourselves at this horrible brink. But reading postings like "Google searches for third party candidates soaring" makes me think there are more people out there that think the same way. At least I hope and pray that is the case!

The only thing I know for certain is that come election day I will NOT have rum for breakfast, I will find my ID and voter's registration card, I will march my fat @ss down to the votey place, and I will not choose either one of the top candidates. If only because I have a brain and I know when I am being placed in a no win situation so that my last act of defiance is one large middle finger to the establishment. Then back to the rum and watch the fall of once a great nation.

It is really sad seeing what seems like normal, relatively smart, people being lead around by their noses by MSM. *SMH* If ever there was a time for the country to wake up it is now!

Thanks for the post and giving voice to what appears to be many other's disbelief. And to all, "Stand up and be counted" was true when AC/DC sang it and it is true now. Please vote.

Be excellent to each other...
...and party on DUDES!!

originally posted by: Hefficide

I've also entertained the passing notion that maybe I stroked out or had an embolism, died and am now wandering through the pits of Hell. Say what you will - but look around... it's not a totally insane thought.

That brings up some interesting questions:

Does Hell have internet access? If so, it's probably dial up with 300 baud acoustic modems.

Would being a resident of Hell put shipping restrictions on my eBay purchases?

Would parental blocks prevent me from accessing porn sites? Probably not. Watching porn at 300 baud would be Hell.

I can say nothing constructive to alleviate your dismay and terror. I can only say I share it, and that you're not alone.

It has indeed become utterly impossible to broach or discuss the things about both candidates which I earnestly believe do warrant discussion on a conspiracy themed website (or, as you said, even in my personal life with dear friends,) because along with the singular, nuanced, lone aspect of the tapestry you wish to drill down on and discuss, comes the whole ball of wax that is propaganda, exaggerations, hyperbole, and sensationalism.

There are things about both candidates that terrify me - their affiliations, their words, their policies and the fickleness thereof, and yes, while I agree that a lot of the Benghazi and email 'stuff' has been hyperbolized, even some of the things those leaked emails suggest (most recently the Podesta Saudi ties.) But they are so buried in or tangled up in all of the rest, and talking about any of it makes people so hyper-polarized, it renders discussion paralyzed.

And that's not even taking into account my social anxiety and abhorrence of conflict. >_< Talking to people right now is like a minefield, no matter how careful you are to point out that you respect everyone and harbor no one any ill will.

I can't decide which is scarier: That this might be intentional on both campaigns' parts, to obfuscate, confuse, entrench, and polarize, to deflect... or that there's no hidden hand on the steering wheel, and we're just witnessing an emergent behavioral CF the likes of which we have never seen in this country's political history to date. That we're, as a people, finally completely losing the plot.

I know it's a tired refrain, one I've made on this site since I joined it more than ten years ago... and I also know I'm not a particularly visible member (by choice) so it likely doesn't have much effect... but we have to be able to talk to each other. Nothing will ever change if we can't do that simple thing - just sit and talk to one another. Entertain one another's positions even if we don't embrace them. Respect one another, hear one another out, understand what it is that's aggrieving one another. And then care about that. (Yes. Actually care about it. Call me crazy.)

But our ability to really do that hasn't increased, despite the internet and the "information" age. When it comes to these particular topics and dynamics... it's declining.

On a lighter note...

I've also entertained the passing notion that maybe I stroked out or had an embolism, died and am now wandering through the pits of Hell. Say what you will - but look around... it's not a totally insane thought.

My friend and I actually considered briefly that a halfhearted attempt we made a little over a year ago to shift realities (on a lark, not serious) while possibly in an altered state, had actually succeeded lol. Yes, it's that crazy currently.
Peace.

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
He said rum! But your will is good. So I will let it slide... this time!

I have a feeling Stern-O would work.

Does anyone else think we are screwed either way?.
I'm gonna be fine though just bought a longbow n arrows.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yeah it probably would. Even without matches to set the whole thing off!

Sweet, sweet, Stern-O...

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

I do. Both sides are funded by the same corporations that way who ever wins they know who their friends are. Meanwhile the people that are supposed to be represented get short changed. Then bills are introduced to limit us even further... by those corporations looking out for their best interests, not ours. Either way, we lose.

D@mn, now I need a drink!

originally posted by: Hefficide
I do my best to abstain... Even though doing so absolutely guts me.

So, who are you votin' for and why?

LOL

Well done Heff, couldn't agree more.

It is impossible to have a conversation with either side without logical fallacies ruling the day. Essentially, it is as if dialogue has given way to ideology with both sides screaming past the other without regard for logical discourse. Both sides are shouting at the top of their lungs that they are the bigger victim, and it is the other side who is victimizing them. I have no idea what to think about this anymore.