Arms dealer says administration made him scapegoat on Libya operation to 'protect' Clinton

This news is a clear indictment of not only Hillary Clinton, but also the Obama Adminstration and his so-called Department of Justice.

American arms dealer Marc Turi, in his first television interview since criminal charges against him were dropped, told Fox News that the Obama administration -- with the cooperation of Hillary Clinton’s State Department -- tried and failed to make him the scapegoat for a 2011 covert weapons program to arm Libyan rebels that spun out of control. “I would say, 100 percent, I was victimized…to somehow discredit me, to throw me under the bus, to do whatever it took to protect their next presidential candidate,” he told Fox News chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge.

I guess, when they dropped their phony case against Turi, they forget to get him to sign a gag order...

Turi says the Justice Department abruptly dropped the case to avoid public disclosure of the weapons program, that was designed to force the ouster of Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddafi during the 2011 Arab Spring.

Turi came up with the plan, but was then taken out of the loop, so that Hillary Clinton and the State Department could directly run the covert weapons supply program - which contravened UN Sanctions.

...the Obama administration with support from some Republican and Democratic lawmakers explored options to arm the so-called “Libyan rebels” during the chaotic Arab Spring but United Nations sanctions prohibited direct sales. Turi's plan was to have the U.S. government supply conventional weapons to the Gulf nations Qatar and UAE, which would then in turn supply them to Libya. But Turi says he never sold any weapons, and he was cut out of the plan. Working with CIA, Turi said Clinton's State Department had the lead and used its own people, with weapons flowing to Libya and Syria.

And, as has been reported elsewhere, Qatar and the UAE, did not route all of the weapons to "friendly" Jihadists in Libya - some portion of them were sent elsewhere...directly to enemies of the United States.

"Some (weapons) may have went out under control that we had with our personnel over there and the others went to these militia. That's how they lost control over it," Turi said. "I can assure you that these operations did take place and those weapons did go in different directions." Asked by Fox News who got the weapons -- Al Qaeda, Ansar al-Sharia, or ISIS -- Turi said: "All of them, all of them, all of them."

So, Clinton ran this weapons supply program...and then she lied to Congress about who was running it, and where some of the weapons ended up.

The Justice Department decision, weeks before the election, coupled with the now public emails, cast a new light on Clinton's 2013 Benghazi testimony where she was asked about the movement of weapons by Sen. Rand Paul.

Paul: Were any of these weapons transferred to other countries. Any countries. Turkey included?

Clinton: Well, Senator you'll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex and I will see what information is available.

Paul: You're saying you don't know?

Clinton: I don't know.

She must have had another memory short cirucit...

Clinton Lies to Congress About Supplying Weapons to Islamists

a reply to: mobiusmale

It appears that we are being helped from all directions in ending this heinous monsters attempt at getting her finger on the trigger.

There is so much being exposed, truly a time for optimism!

Burn the witch!

She must have had another memory short circuit.

She clearly says another agency was shipping the arms. It's well known and even says in the article that it was a CIA op and they don't say crap. Besides everyone knows if the government wants you in prison then you're going to prison.

Close friend and Turi adviser Robert Stryk described Turi this way to Fox News in a statement: “Marc Turi is a true patriot who served his country in the fight against Islamofascist terrorists in the Middle East. His fraudulent prosecution by Hillary Clinton’s associates in the Justice Department is deplorable as is the fate of the American heroes murdered in Benghazi. Our most loyal citizens deserve better."

What makes this guy a patriot? He sold weapons that were to be used to murder people in nations that are no threat to America.

He didn't sell any weapons to anyone there bud.
you need to get you facts straight.

Marc Turi is a real American

Once a contractor........

Buck

originally posted by: buster2010


What makes this guy a patriot? He sold weapons that were to be used to murder people in nations that are no threat to America.

And so what does that make Hillary? She not only sold weapons to these groups, to Saudi Arabia that sponsors Isis, made millions of dollars fro doing it, and helped the cover up their giving of weapons to Isis?

Surely you place much more blame on her than this guy.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: buster2010


What makes this guy a patriot? He sold weapons that were to be used to murder people in nations that are no threat to America.

And so what does that make Hillary? She not only sold weapons to these groups, to Saudi Arabia that sponsors Isis, made millions of dollars fro doing it, and helped the cover up their giving of weapons to Isis?

Surely you place much more blame on her than this guy.

I keep hearing that Hillary Clinton sold weapons to various folks.

I'm wondering if this is just a point of rhetoric, or whether you have actual evidence.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: buster2010


What makes this guy a patriot? He sold weapons that were to be used to murder people in nations that are no threat to America.

And so what does that make Hillary? She not only sold weapons to these groups, to Saudi Arabia that sponsors Isis, made millions of dollars fro doing it, and helped the cover up their giving of weapons to Isis?

Surely you place much more blame on her than this guy.

I keep hearing that Hillary Clinton sold weapons to various folks.

I'm wondering if this is just a point of rhetoric, or whether you have actual evidence.

No, it was huma and mills doing the selling.

For a cut, I'm sure.

It says he was cut out and the State dept (hillary) took over.

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: buster2010


What makes this guy a patriot? He sold weapons that were to be used to murder people in nations that are no threat to America.

And so what does that make Hillary? She not only sold weapons to these groups, to Saudi Arabia that sponsors Isis, made millions of dollars fro doing it, and helped the cover up their giving of weapons to Isis?

Surely you place much more blame on her than this guy.

I keep hearing that Hillary Clinton sold weapons to various folks.

I'm wondering if this is just a point of rhetoric, or whether you have actual evidence.

No, it was huma and mills doing the selling.

For a cut, I'm sure.

It says he was cut out and the State dept (hillary) took over.

Okay, not HIllary Clinton doing the selling then?

Okay, do you have evidence you can share with us?

The story seems to keep changing.

That evidence is exactly what would have had to been released during discovery.

That's exactly why the indictments were dismissed with prejudice.

Buck

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: buster2010


What makes this guy a patriot? He sold weapons that were to be used to murder people in nations that are no threat to America.

And so what does that make Hillary? She not only sold weapons to these groups, to Saudi Arabia that sponsors Isis, made millions of dollars fro doing it, and helped the cover up their giving of weapons to Isis?

Surely you place much more blame on her than this guy.

I keep hearing that Hillary Clinton sold weapons to various folks.

I'm wondering if this is just a point of rhetoric, or whether you have actual evidence.

Well here is a while thread on her acknowledging her the Saudis fund and give logistical support to Isis, and shows her helping cover up their crimes.

It also shows how she was selling arms to the saudis who she knew was giving them to isis, while at the same time getting personally enriched.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You can check it out of you like, but here is one source to get you started.

The Clinton family, through their Clinton Foundation, has received tens of millions of dollars in donations from Saudi businessmen, princes and their friends. The Saudi government alone gave more than $10 million.

Wealthy Saudi citizens such as Mohammed H. Al-Amoudi and Nasser Al-Rashid (the latter who is said to have close ties with the Saudi royal family) have given generously to the notorious nonprofit, which does not publish specific donation amounts but offers rough figures. While Hillary Clinton was the Secretary of State, arms sales worth more than $29 billion were approved for Saudi Arabia, including advanced fighter jets that raised complaints with American ally Israel about the region’s balance of power.

Assistant Secretary of State Andrew Shapiro, a veteran Clinton aide, said at the time that the deals were “a top priority” for Clinton. This was despite State Department documentation of human rights abuses (including beheadings and other draconian legal punishments) and denial of women’s rights in the repressive kingdom. Moreover, even getting the Saudis to take seriously the challenge of combatting terrorism was an issue, according to Clinton herself in a State Department cable made public in 2009 by website Wikileaks.

All told, Clinton’s State Department approved over $165 billion worth of arms sales (including biological and chemical agents and associated equipment) to at least 20 nations whose regimes had given millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation.

www.americanlibertyreport.com...

a reply to: Grambler

So, to be a bit more specific, the United States sold weapons to the same folks we've been selling weapons to for years?

No proof that Hillary CLinton sold a single weapon personally?

Are you saying that these weapons sales referenced here were not approved by Congress? Can you prove that?

I'm not even going into the usual crap with the Clinton Foundation here, not on topic.

Anything else?

originally posted by: buster2010

She clearly says another agency was shipping the arms. It's well known and even says in the article that it was a CIA op and they don't say crap. Besides everyone knows if the government wants you in prison then you're going to prison.

Close friend and Turi adviser Robert Stryk described Turi this way to Fox News in a statement: “Marc Turi is a true patriot who served his country in the fight against Islamofascist terrorists in the Middle East. His fraudulent prosecution by Hillary Clinton’s associates in the Justice Department is deplorable as is the fate of the American heroes murdered in Benghazi. Our most loyal citizens deserve better."

What makes this guy a patriot? He sold weapons that were to be used to murder people in nations that are no threat to America.

If you want to know more about the true story, check out The Times article.....or this that provides info on what was really going on:

The Obama administration’s “Arab Spring” adventures pivoted westward, reports Klein, when the CIA started helping Arab governments and Turkey obtain and ship weapons to the rebels fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria.

The New York Times reported March 25, 2013, that the covert aid to the Syrian rebels started on a small scale and continued intermittently through the fall of 2012, expanding into a steady and much heavier flow later that year, including a large procurement from Croatia.

However, Klein cites sources saying the airlifts actually began several months before the fall of 2012, including a massive arm shipment from Benghazi to the Syrian rebels in August 2012 days before the Benghazi attack. That massive weapons shipment departed the port in Benghazi and arrived in early September at the Turkish port of Iskenderun, 35 miles from the Syrian border, purportedly to deliver humanitarian aid.

The Times, meanwhile, reported that from offices at “secret locations,” American intelligence officers “helped the Arab governments shop for weapons … and have vetted rebel commanders and groups to determine who should receive the weapons as they arrive.” theinternationalreporter.org... ghazi-story/

U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadis’ Hands
www.nytimes.com...

www.reuters.com...

The United States supported the secret supply of weapons to Libyan rebels while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State according to federal court documents obtained by Fox News.

In a sworn declaration to the District Court of Arizona May 5th 2015, a career CIA officer David Manners said, "It was then, and remains now, my opinion that the United States did participate, directly or indirectly, in the supply of weapons to the Libyan Transitional National Council." The timing matters because in the Spring of 2011 the Libyan opposition was not formally recognized, and the direct supply of arms was not authorized. At that time, the CIA Director was David Petraeus.
www.foxbusiness.com...

Key Findings
• Finding: Senior levels of the Obama administration and U.S. Intelligence Community
organized a “Zero Footprint” campaign of material support to known affiliates of Libyan
al-Qa’eda militias, including direct facilitation of the delivery of weapons to them.
o Source: American citizen FBI Confidential Informant with direct access
o Source: Retired USN Rear Admiral businessman with direct access
o Source: American citizen arms dealer with direct access, currently under sealed
indictment by the Department of Justice
o Source: Forensic investigation on shell casings, mortar fragments, and any
weapons or weapons parts recovered from the Special Mission Compound and
CIA Annex (subject of CCB FOIA request)

www.aim.org...

Do some research. It's all related and Obama and Clinton don't want anyone to connect the dots back to them.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

So, to be a bit more specific, the United States sold weapons to the same folks we've been selling weapons to for years?

No proof that Hillary CLinton sold a single weapon personally?

Are you saying that these weapons sales referenced here were not approved by Congress? Can you prove that?

I'm not even going into the usual crap with the Clinton Foundation here, not on topic.

Anything else?

Well again there is a whole thread on how Hillary knew that the saudi were sponsoring Isis and took money from them and sent her people over to help cover it up, but you and all the other people trying to defend Hillary have ignored it.

As far as personally selling weapons, you are kidding right? Hahaha! So we cant blame Assad for say attacking people, after all he didn't personally attack anyone. Putin never personally hacked the US, Gaddaffi never personally killed people, etc. Bush didn't personally invade Iraq, so no blame on him. What a joke.

While she was in charge of the state dept. she sold billions of dollars worth of weapons to the saudis. As the source I provided you says, it was a top priority for her.

Even if they were approved by congress (which I will check into) the fact is that she knew these weapons were going to Isis and it was still a top priority for her to sell them.

As far as the Clinton Foundation getting money, fine you can ignore this if you want. She also personally received a half a million dollar necklace from the saudis and other gifts.

You can put this off by saying everyone does it all you want. The thread I provided shows just how unique this is for Hillary.

But even if we have been doing it forever, you are willing to give HIllary a pass for it? Instead of condemning her and any other politician that knowingly arms ISIS to brutalize gays, women and whoever else they want, you choose to spend your time discussing Trumps lewd comments.

Bravo.

a reply to: Grambler

There's a "whole thread" authored by you ... yes, I know.

I would mumble something about using yourself as an authority, but I won't, as I can see it doesn't matter.

Here's the thing ... arms sales (of the levels you are pointing to) are approved by Congress ... aren't you aware of that fact?

Arms Export Control Act

So, now ... perhaps you'll explain again how "Hillary Clinton sold arms" when these deals were approved by Congress?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

There's a "whole thread" authored by you ... yes, I know.

I would mumble something about using yourself as an authority, but I won't, as I can see it doesn't matter.

Here's the thing ... arms sales (of the levels you are pointing to) are approved by Congress ... aren't you aware of that fact?

Arms Export Control Act

So, now ... perhaps you'll explain again how "Hillary Clinton sold arms" when these deals were approved by Congress?

I answered this before.

Even if congress approved the deals, we know that A) Hillary knew that these arms were going to people that armed ISIS, B) She was given tons of money from these groups and the arms manifacturers C) This was a top priority for her.

So her big prority was getting weapins to ISIS. Now you can blame congress too, but how does that answer the above facts?

And can you show me proof thatcongress knoew that the government of Saudi Arabia was arming Isis?

But I can show you proof that Hillary knew that. And still pushed for arm sales. And still kept their money. And still sent her people over to run PR to cover up the connection to Isis.

Something tells me when Hillary was pushing this arms deal to congress she didnt let them know that the saudis arm Isis and other Islamic terrorists.

So basically your defense of Hillary and her behavior with the saudis who she knew were sponsoring Isis is,

1. She never personally sold any arms (HAHAHAHA!)

2. Other people (like congress) were ok with selling them arms.

Neither of those absolve Hillary of any responsibility.

a reply to: Grambler

Yes, you "answered" it ... but you're still trying to make political hay with it (as are the right-wing blogs that serve as your backup.)

That doesn't change the fact that these deals were approved by Congress. They were not "done" by Clinton. You don't have an issue with that level of misrepresentation, and that's fine.

Clinton knew, as Congress knew, as we all know that Saudi and Qatar have their own agendas in the Middle East. In fact the only emails you can show regarding Clinton's knowledge regard bringing pressure to bear on those two countries regarding their illicit activities.

She was not "given tons of money from these groups." You know that's not true.

Your whole presentation is the general false equivalency and subtle phrasing I've come to expect.

When you can demonstrate that Clinton acted without the knowledge and oversight of the US Congress, I'd be interested in that.

Clinton has no need to be "absolved" from the BS political theatricals you and the wingnut blogosphere specialize in.

All we need are the facts, and the fact is none of these arms deals were done in secret; all were approved by Congress.

a reply to: Gryphon66

You are in utter and complete denial.

If the deals were approved by Congress then why did she lie about them to Rand Paul at the Benghazi hearing?

Why didn't she just respond to senator Paul by telling him they were approved? And why would he even ask the question if he already knew the answer?

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: Gryphon66

You are in utter and complete denial.

If the deals were approved by Congress then why did she lie about them to Rand Paul at the Benghazi hearing?

Why didn't she just respond to senator Paul by telling him they were approved? And why would he even ask the question if he already knew the answer?

I'm in denial? LOL. Do a bit of actual research and get back to me.

Learn about how your government works.

PS: What question did Mr. Paul actually ask Secretary Clinton? Start there.

a reply to: Gryphon66

She was not "given tons of money from these groups." You know that's not true.

So Saudi Arabia didn't donate 20 million to the Clinton Foundation?

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: Gryphon66

She was not "given tons of money from these groups." You know that's not true.

So Saudi Arabia didn't donate 20 million to the Clinton Foundation?

The Clinton Foundation is not Hillary Clinton, and is not the topic of this thread.

Do you have any points that aren't wingnut MSM based?