Producer Says There's Footage of Trump Saying the N-Word

originally posted by: LSU0408
So if there's really footage of this and it's truly a big deal, why have these producers sat on it and kept it silent for so long? They obviously don't have a real problem if it's true.

We didn't have a racist running for President "before".

Rumors are on twitter there is footage of Hillary saying the same thing, it's supposed to be leaked this month also.

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a reply to: AboveBoard

All I'm saying is that there's no need to be upset with Gambler's comment. The pushback and anger over the ACA stems from the dirtbags getting it subsidized or free while the Middle Class breaks their back to afford it for themselves, and pay for others. I'm pretty certain that people would agree with me in that we wouldn't have a single problem assisting people such as your son. ACA needs to be repealed and we need to come up with a totally new healthcare system. One the backbone of America, and people in your shoes can afford.

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: LSU0408
So if there's really footage of this and it's truly a big deal, why have these producers sat on it and kept it silent for so long? They obviously don't have a real problem if it's true.

We didn't have a racist running for President "before".

We just elected one twice in a row. One that said the n word.

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: Grambler

Reality check.

Imagine Obama said that about someone. How would you feel? Would it be locker room talk and you'd shrug it off? Would it be Presidential?

How does that make you feel?

I would feel the exact same way. I would say, "Eh that is a really crappy thing to say. Anyways, how is his job performance"

Let me tell you a little about me. I never was a ladies man. I always thought my friends that bragged about hooking up with people (both men and women) were dumb. So I never really made comments about my sexual prowess.

But I have made jokes about all sorts of things. Sometimes really vile jokes. My favorite comedian is Doug Stanhope, he is about as vulgar as it gets. I am rarely offended, and I think that my posts on ATS will show that. I constantly say that anyone can make any joke or personal attack they want at my expense, it doesn't bother me at all.

So let me give you a prediction. The precedent has been set with Trump. Now every election will be about digging for any dirty thing you can find that the other candidate said.

Some day it will come out that a democrat engaged in this type of lockeroom talk. And I will be right there saying that I don't think it is a big deal.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: Grambler

Burning it down. For whom?

Angry expression is fine, but this is real life. For example, Trump wins and repeals the ACA. Yay! You cheer!! Me? My very ill son's life will be put in jepordy OR we will simply lose everything and be forced into poverty so he can get Medicaid. Not joking here. So go burn down your own freaking life. Leave me and mine out of it.

right it is just about you. So when the establishment government that has left some many middle and lower class in shambles to enrich the banking elite is further entrenched, you are o with that. You are ok with the thousands upon thousands that die as a result of the establishments and Hillarys nation building?

You are ok with our entire establishment media, FBI, DOJ covering up felonies hillary committed that jeopordized the safety of servicemen?

None of that matters to you as long as you are comfortable, right?

Well if you feel that way, never judge anyone who feels the exact same way about a different candidate. many people feel Obama and Hillary have crushed them financially, and they are losing everything.

So why don't you stay out of other freakin peoples lives.

Stop putting words in my mouth. There are many left behind in the economic recovery. I know that. I understand that. That is what needs to be healed next in our country, no doubt. Along with many other things.

Your attack is based on misperceptions, of me, of my economic status, and my heart. I'm not going to try and unpack your salvo point by point because I think it would not be heard. I won't bother. Suffice it to say I want the world to be fair for you too. Do you want that for me?

I am hardly "comfortable." I am fighting for my kid. I make no apologies about doing that.

I'm angry, so I know I said something harsh. I apologize for my anger and for attacking you with it.

AB

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: Grambler

So I shouldn't be concerned about me and my family? I should just take one for your team? Is that it?

It's about millions of families just like me. So no, it's not just about me.

No you have every right to be concerned for your family. Vote for what you thin is best, no matter what the reason. I respect your right to chose, and even if you choose differently than me, I hope that your candidate does great for you and me.

I said this because you started on me saying to stay out of your life because I want to vote for Trump to bring down the establishment. If you are allowed to be concerned with your family, why do I have to shut up and not be concerned about mine?

a reply to: Grambler

I'm sure they have.

Well said.

a reply to: Indigo5

I would have to know the context in which he used the word.

The n-word is one that is thrown around in a variety of different ways.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: Grambler

So I shouldn't be concerned about me and my family? I should just take one for your team? Is that it?

It's about millions of families just like me. So no, it's not just about me.

No you have every right to be concerned for your family. Vote for what you thin is best, no matter what the reason. I respect your right to chose, and even if you choose differently than me, I hope that your candidate does great for you and me.

I said this because you started on me saying to stay out of your life because I want to vote for Trump to bring down the establishment. If you are allowed to be concerned with your family, why do I have to shut up and not be concerned about mine?

Obviously this topic hits a nerve for me.

We disagree. I appreciate that.

Peace,
AB

originally posted by: LSU0408
We just elected one twice in a row. One that said the n word.

Yeah, but he was addressing his homies in da hood. Perfectly acceptable.

originally posted by: AboveBoard


I'm angry, so I know I said something harsh. I apologize for my anger and for attacking you with it.

AB

No need to apologize at all, you didn't say anything I took as an attack. I honestly believe despite all of the differences we all have on here, we all want the same thing, for this country to be as good as it can be, and for everyone to have as good as life as possible.

We just disagree on how to get there.

No one is troubled that people are now breaking NDAs in order to divulge private conversations for the sake of discrediting someone running a candidacy?

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: LSU0408
So if there's really footage of this and it's truly a big deal, why have these producers sat on it and kept it silent for so long? They obviously don't have a real problem if it's true.

We didn't have a racist running for President "before".

Are you so sure about that?

originally posted by: olaru12
Trump in his arrogance had his own video crew recording his every word and move. What irony!

It' downright Nixonian. Hoist with his own petard.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: olaru12


Vulgar? I think allowing another man to call your daughter a Piece of
ass is getting very close to perversion...call my daughter a piece of ass and I'll bust you wide open.

Right we know, another person of peace threatening violence over words.

Now wait a minute. I thought the democrats were the party of sexual liberation? They are aall for womens right to be sexual beings. They like slut walks, and encourage women to explore their sexuality.

Yet Trump making comments about his daughter being a sexual being are so disgusting we should not vote for him.

I think maybe you are due back in your fundamentalist church now.

You as usual have made some erroneous assumptions. I'm not a democrat, I'm a Registered Republican and I'm an agnostic.
But I have a sense of honor that a lot of conservative republicans seem to have lost by supporting a man that has none, no character, just a loud mouth pervert. I have no respect for anyone that forsakes their honor for a BS ideology. Should I include you in that catagory?

btw....I'm not voting for Clinton.

Keep up your lame insults...I find them amusing! I'm surprised you haven't brought out the ever popular "people like you"

a reply to: Grambler

Let me just say two things before I say anything else.

1. I'll be very surprised if this tape exists. I wasn't surprised by the Trump tapes that have been released but I'll be shocked if he was THAT careless.

2. Would it be an unfair attack on Donald Trump? You do know that Trump has been shopping this Robert Byrd thing already right? He was doing it back in August:

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump "@DiamondandSilk: Crooked Hillary getting desperate. On TV bashing Trump. @CNN, she forgot how she said a KKK member was her mentor. 11:10 AM - 27 Aug 2016

Breitbart even dutifully published the "Remember that time Clinton said a former KKK member wa sher 'mentor'" article and others have published similar. He's gone after Clinton for "super predator" and the whole of conservative media has gone after her as a monster for calling the women her husband was banging "bimbos" and "trailer trash." I still haven't seen evidence of Hillary hiring people to harass or threaten these women and AFAIK personally, from what I've read, it's her statements that have been used against her the most part to create a narrative of the rapist enabler "attacking" Bill's victims. Let's not forget that Gennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky aren't victims. They were consensual sexual partners.

This election ceased being anything but a war of attrition many months ago. After last night, I'd say this is a no holds barred slugfest that will continue until one of these two clowns is lying unconscious on the mat. If this audio/video exists and it comes out, it'll end Trump and no amount of talking about dead senators is going to undo that. We all know that.

Now is it fair to question Clinton's involvement with Byrd? Sure, why not? But it's never going to have the impact of hearing Trump dropping the n-bomb if he did so in a derrogatory way. (if he was singing along to a rap song, that would be a mitigating factor but it seems... unlikely) Unlike with Clinton's relationship with Byrd, nobody has to explain anything (like who Byrd is and why anyone should care) and it's not some insinuation of being friendly to racists — he'd just be branded an outright racist.

And Hillary knew what the KKK was, and she still chose to have a mentor that was a member. It wasn't just that he used the n word like you are trying to say. He was an active member in the KKK, an racist organization that killed black people. And Hillary knowingly took him not as a friend, but as a mentor, someone who influences her political life.

I wasn't trying to downplay Byrd's involvement in the KKK. From what I remember he wasn't just a member, he was a recruiter for his local chapter (or whatever the Klan calls them) and he was writing letters demonstrating an ideological alignment. So yes, he was definitely an active member of the KKK.

I'm familiar with her "An American original and my friend and mentor" introduction. I'm also aware that when he died, the NAACP had very nice things to say about the man. It seems at least likely that by the time Clinton made his acquaintance, he had turned over a new leaf decades earlier. That hasn't stopped the involvement from being brought up half a million times as an implication that Clinton is probably secretly a racist.

She forgave Byrd because his actions were a long time ago, but she wants to hold Trump accountable for words he used decades ago?

It doesn't matter if Clinton/society forgave Byrd or not. Robert Byrd was a Senator for what? Nearly six decades? That was a decision made by the people of West Virginia over and over again. My father-in-law is from WV and based on my experience, I'm guessing his former KKK involvement probably wasn't much a deal breaker with his white constituents.

Donald Trump on the other hand is trying to become President of the United States in 2016.

Byrd had decades to demonstrate through action that he had changed. Donald Trump has been claiming a lot of personal growth — not least of which is that he is a reformed oligarch — but there's no evidence of it. What there is evidence of from this election is Donald Trump saying things about illegal immigrants from Mexico, Muslims and to a somewhat lesser extent black communities that many people find offensive. There's evidence of him saying things to women/about women that many people find offensive.

My opinion is basically that he chose the identity politics rhetoric he did of his own volition. If it comes out that he did use racial epithets or ethnic slurs and was recorded doing it, then he's got no defense. He's going to have a hard time saying "I've totally changed! I love the blacks now — it's everyone else that you should be afraid of."

He made his bed, live by the sword, etc — take your pick.

Lastly, I will say it again; this election is about the bad things Trump has SAID, vs. the bad things Hillary has DONE.

I think that's a bit of an oversimplification. I've seen the same and similar statements made countless times in the last 3-4 days and to a lesser degree throughout the election. In my opinion, it's a faulty premise intended to wipe Trump's slate clean. How about all the wrong things Donald Trump has done? They don't count because he wasn't in office but his purported business expertise does count? That's not directed at you specifically but it seems to be the de facto position of many supporting Trump. It seems to be something like this to me:

"I don't care what Trump's said or done in the past because he wasn't in elected office but I think he'd be good for elected office because of all the things I like that Trump's done in the past and says now."

What it's about is making a decision about how these two people would perform in office. Since apples to apples comparisons are impossible (and even if they were), I think everything is fair game from either's past.

originally posted by: olaru12


You as usual have made some erroneous assumptions. I'm not a democrat, I'm a Registered Republican and I'm an agnostic.
But I have a sense of honor that a lot of conservative republicans seem to have lost by supporting a man that has none, no character, just a loud mouth pervert. I have no respect for anyone that forsakes their honor for a BS ideology. Should I include you in that catagory?

btw....I'm not voting for Clinton.

Keep up your lame insults...I find them amusing!

I dont care what party you are in. I am saying that it is mostly democrats denouncing him for this, and they are the party of slut walks and sexual liberation.

Look, you get as outraged at his comments on Howards stern as you want. Thats your right.

You can also show us what a tough person you are by showing us that if someone said this about your daughter you would hit them. But we know, you are a person of honor.

You can include me in any category you want. I would put myself in the "Not going to go hysterical because a guy made lewd comments on a shock jocks radio show" category.

And congrats on not voting for clinton!

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: Indigo5

I was once with a group of black guys and as the only white guy in the group I was shunned and felt disrespected so I dropped the N-bomb. They soon paid attention.
Needless to say, they are my friends to this day.

Words are just that, WORDS!

I have done the same among black people too when having a laugh, and it actually brought us closer. By calling them that in a humorous way (dark humor, it exists), you are saying that you don't give a crap about all the pc-correctness and you don't want to be watching every single word you say. You are also saying that the other guy can say whatever he wants about you without you ending up with your feelings hurt.

This is how I see Trump's comments on the bus. As soon as he got off the bus (back into real life), he treated that woman like a gentleman. It was Billy Bush that got all excited and couldn't keep his eyes off her.

There is more to communication than words. Intention is a big one.

soulwaxer

Really dont want people to forget any of these.

You cant name 1 baby boomer that has never said the N-word. White or Black.

#1 – In 1974, after Bill Clinton lost his bid for a Senate seat, Hillary lashed out at campaign manager Paul Fray calling him a, “f*cking Jew bastard!” This outburst was witnessed and confirmed by 3 people, so it definitely happened.

#2 – As First Lady, Hillary called young black men “super-predators” indicating that she thought all young black males were violent criminals. She also said, “We have to bring them to heel,” like young blacks are the same as dogs. Despite thinking this was incredibly racist, blacks still support Hillary.

#3 – While serving in the US Senate, Hillary tried to make a joke that disparaged a civil rights icon and demeaned all people from India. “I love this quote. It’s from Mahatma Gandhi. He ran a gas station down in St. Louis for a couple of years. Mr. Gandhi, do you still go to the gas station?” asked Clinton.

#4 – In 2005 Hillary said, “I am adamantly against illegal immigrants.” She also, as a Senator, voted to construct a wall between the US and Mexico. Considering the main “proof” of Trump’s racism is that he opposes illegal immigration and wants to build a wall, isn’t it odd that Hillary gets off for having said the same thing?

#5 – During the 2008 democratic primaries Hillary Clinton’s campaign started the “birther” rumors, questioning Obama’s US citizenship. They even circulated the now famous picture of Obama in full Muslim garb. Somehow Trump’s campaign to get Obama to release his birth certificate is racist, but Hillary’s role in starting the birther movement is not.

#6 – Also during the 2008 presidential race, Hillary’s husband Bill said this of Obama: “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.” Hillary didn’t say this one but her husband did and she certainly never disavowed it.

#7 – Shortly after announcing her candidacy, Hillary said “all lives matter” in a black church. I don’t think this one is racist, but lefties, black activists, and Hillary herself all do, so it makes the list. Plus as is the case with most of this stuff, if Trump had said it liberals would freak the hell out.

#8 – In November of 2015, Hillary called people in this country illegally “illegal aliens.” Trump is a racist when he says “illegal aliens,” why isn’t Hillary?

#9 – In April of this year, Hillary joined NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio on stage at a democratic fundraiser for a scripted joke about how lazy black people are. The two liberals made reference to “colored people’s time” which is a super-racist way of saying black people are chronically tardy and lethargic.

#10 – April was a great month for Hillary’s racism, as she also made a comment disparaging Native Americans. She said she had experience dealing with wild men when they “get off the reservation.” In essence she said Native Americans are savages who must be segregated from the rest of society.

As a bonus:

#11 – On a black radio show, Hillary pandered to black voters by claiming she always carries hot sauce in her purse. It was racist when Donald Trump pandered Hispanics by eating a taco bowl, but not racist when Hillary pandered blacks. How does that work?