Fresno CA May 11th 2012 Sighting, 3 Eyewitness Videos, Case 38176

a reply to: Phage

in that case i really want to know what you consider good UFO footage, if any.

a reply to: facedye
There are any number of videos in which the object cannot be identified.

This one would qualify. The object cannot be positively identified. The primary reason being a lack of information. But because something cannot be positively identified, it does not mean it is anything extraordinary. Nor does it mean it is unidentifiable, given more information.

In this case, there is nothing which seems to say "not a balloon." That does not mean it is a balloon. You are free to not accept that point of view, if you wish.

a reply to: Phage

WHO DO YOU WORK FOR?

a reply to: Phage

With no spectacular maneuvers and the way it reflected the sun
at certain angles perceived. I think the skeptics win another one.


There's also a hint of dishonesty go'n on it seems. Video maker says the wind
is moving the same as camera direction but isn't evident at all on the cam mic.

a reply to: randyvs
Skeptics never win.

a reply to: Phage

Prevail perhaps

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: facedye
There are any number of videos in which the object cannot be identified.

This one would qualify. The object cannot be positively identified. The primary reason being a lack of information. But because something cannot be positively identified, it does not mean it is anything extraordinary. Nor does it mean it is unidentifiable, given more information.

In this case, there is nothing which seems to say "not a balloon." That does not mean it is a balloon. You are free to not accept that point of view, if you wish.

i can confidently say that the footage in my OP shows something that is not a balloon.

what can you show me to substantiate that this might be a balloon?

a reply to: facedye

i can confidently say that the footage in my OP shows something that is not a balloon.

How so. Your "evidence" shows a balloon in close proximity to the camera.

a reply to: Phage

have you come to find that mylar balloons behave differently at far proximity from a camera, or maybe even at high altitudes, when compared to the object in my OP?

a reply to: facedye


Have you pointed out what, in particular, is un-balloonlike about the video in the OP?

Timestamp?
Description?

a reply to: Phage

yes, in that it doesn't behave like a balloon. i've placed a video there for reference (there are many like it), which followed how i thought the object behaved by comparison.

It doesn't wobble, changes direction abruptly but seamlessly several times, does not have random reflections of sunlight due to the wind carrying it. The object distinctly changes shape and holds its new form several times as well.

have you pointed out what is balloon like about it, or can you point to anything for reference to show that this does behave like something we know and see?

a reply to: facedye

The only thing there which may be of interest is the "changes direction abruptly."
Timestamps?

a reply to: Phage

please, just watch it in its entirety and tell me if you don't notice the same thing, when you get a chance. i'm not at a place where i can timestamp it for convenience's sake.

i'd be curious to know what you think.

a reply to: facedye
Take your time. No hurry. I've seen plenty of balloon videos.

a reply to: Phage

well now i'm not inclined to assist you with that at all.

don't be so quick to act on your reservations and your habits.

my line of questioning was direct and sincere. forgive me for not wanting to joke, take lightly or belittle your perspective over the topic of unidentified flying objects.

you put up nothing in this conversation when asked for clarity, and instead provide cold and unfounded speculation.

skeptics, eh? this is the precedent, then? i should expect no substantiation on your part, and instead a litany of off the cuff conversational jabs?

what a let down.

a reply to: facedye

I asked what you find unusual.
You will not answer.

Fine.

a reply to: Phage

ignorance is bliss, i guess.

i answered you in several different ways.

i asked you what you don't find unusual about it, and why.

a reply to: facedye
I said I find nothing that says "not a balloon."

I asked specifically what you find unballoonlike. You won't answer. Fine.

a reply to: Phage

why? based on what?

did you watch the footage in full?

a reply to: facedye



I asked specifically what you find unballoonlike. You won't answer other than, "everything" more or less. Fine, I disagree.
Does my opinion offend you?