What is "Satan's deep secret" referenced in Revelation?

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
unravelled or made known, would be to his ruin and utter destruction.

Thanks.

Not sure if it's related to suppression techniques of the opposite and so projected in said form to keep masculine energy in power.
Or if actually describes opposite yin/yan energy?

Revelation 2King James Version (KJV)

2 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.

4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.

7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;

13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.







14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.







16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.




18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.




20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.







21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.







24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

Also the word NATAS seems related to Ashyitan. So 1 when processing ancient text keeps in mind the data exchanged between humans and non humans and human to human data transfer throughout time may not keep accurate integrity...
This helps to evaluate deeper more objectively of what is going on with many religious and scientific text...
You have to use your instincts to siphon the information collected to build your own personal views & and then try to share when possible.

In Islam, the Devil is known as Iblīs (Arabic: إبليس‎‎, plural: ابالسة abālisah), Shayṭān (Arabic: شيطان‎‎, plural: شياطين shayāṭīn) or Shaitan. He is a Jinn who refused to kneel before Adam.

NAMASTE*******

The Depths Of Satan Is Even More Creepier When You Realize...

Satan, When Loosed, Comes As A Powerful God Who Happens To Have Kings, Princes, Generals, Marshalls, Captain, Knights, And Soldiers. There Are Garrisons For The Marshall, And Armies For The General. They're All Blessed By Him. And Their Tale Is A Short Story.

They All Say:
"Behold! This Is The Land My Lord God Is Giving Me!"

The Unfortunate Bastard Who Has To Deal With That Is Called (secret weapon) "Sacrificial Lamb!" He's Alone! He's On His Own...

But... God Says:
"Behold! Through The Blood (And Yes, There Will Be Blood) Of The Lamb All Things Are Made New!"

Satan... Is Very Mighty. But... Secret Weapon Is Definitely The Trick Up A Sleeve.

Sometimes... If You Can't Beat'em... Join'em!

One uses tricks to lure you
1 waits for you patiently-

Remember

originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
One uses tricks to lure you
1 waits for you patiently
Remember

One doesn't wait. Believe me... I know.
But... tricks are certainly the norm. But... also... there is always the chance to remove the burden from the heart.

They're all just emotions. They can weigh one down heavily. No need to have that as we move in deeper into hell.

a reply to: Pinocchio
Hopefully some can be removed from un peacefulness perceived hells and ascend into more benevolent Heavenly locations...

No need for all to descend into the realms except those going to reflect-

a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Yes...
That would be wise.

For as much as there is a hell.... so too there is peace.

But... the lost word of "Hiram Abif!"... is not comforting to me. His name is the lost word.
Its pronounced "Harem Above!". That is God's mercy for man. He offers them up to my lust. He even promises them as a gift for trials endured. That is heaven...
I would much rather honor the fact that fire and trial by fire putrefies a fool.
Emotions are gone and so too my affections for a god who does not know such a man.

a reply to: Pinocchio

Peace and love ! Satan is the materialist bully of the material , physical realm ! Peace and love from the mystical metal hippie

a reply to: ChesterJohn

but the practices and ways of Satan...such as....
woman teachers

That's why you shouldn't be posting in these threads, you're a dinosaur who hasn't kept up with the times.

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

I would like you to expand.

Brings to mind the box that jews wear on their forehead and also the Kaaba cube in Mecca.
Oh and also Arthir C Clarkes 2001 Space Odyssey - black box found on the moon etc

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

I would like you to expand.

Brings to mind the box that jews wear on their forehead and also the Kaaba cube in Mecca.
Oh and also Arthir C Clarkes 2001 Space Odyssey - black box found on the moon etc

a reply to: MamaJ

but the Garden of Eden is a place within our minds/consciousness where we materialized and became trapped into matter

So basically we could be trapped inside a computer simulation or Matrix -

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

his big secret is that he dont exisit?

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

Hmm.

I don't quite know what to make of your theories but from the length of your OP and statements made in it you seem like a beginner to the Bible and more interested in oral traditions about Satan from Catholicism and Protestant, Fundamental and Evangelical Curstianity.

Biblically Ha Satan began as a member of the Host of Heaven or Divine Council in the obviously mythological tale of Job.

He is subservient and obedient to Yahweh who seems to be under El Elyon here and in other areas but, seperate issue the point is Satan isn't a rebel angel but Yahweh's prosecutor. He is created to tempt and accuse and that's what he does.

He can't be the cursed Serpent of Genesis although he has been conflated with Samael whose wife Lilith was the Serpent of Eve's temptation. Or Samael there are a couple of different versions.

Baalzebul is another conflated with Satan by Christianity, Belial, Mastema, Asmodeus every demon is, to the Christian, Satan.

But it is not so in Judaism. Samael is a satan but not the Satan. There are demons and then angels and Satan is an angel who can be overcome and made to flee.

Really just a metaphor for the desire to do evil and not a being that exists in the physical or ethereal form or any form at all.

The uneducated and superstitious pagan Catholic Romans made Satan. He is, Biblically obscure and mentioned only a few times and he is always working with God doing what needs to be done.

In the Crucifixion myth Judas is dispatched by Christ to betray him, he wants to be crucified. Judas doesn't want to do it but does. He gets scared and isn't going to go through with it so Satan possessed him to force God's plan to fruition.

The mystery is why Jesus wanted to die and why God wanted Jesus to die not why did Judas betray Jesus...he was under orders to "betray" him.

Satan was under orders as well and is Yahweh's goon. He does his dirty work.

How does satan work?

I think we are the once who are doing everything for Satan.

We have buildt a system to live by that is in accordance With how Satan wants it built.

- Satan has put it in Our minds to do his will.

To day it dosent matter if you believe in God, because you still have to live by Satans system to survive or stay out of trubble With the systems set of laws. We are are being educated, groomed and spiritually formed to drift Satans system from when we are small children. It is not just the social system that grooms us to worship satans system. Each and everone of us are also being preped by Our moms and dads to serve the system as loyal subjects.

How many of you have been told that we cant live without a political system? "Democracy"

I bet non of you are educated to know of a better system than a political system set up of People who must rule over you.

originally posted by: spy66
How does satan work?

I think we are the once who are doing everything for Satan.

We have buildt a system to live by that is in accordance With how Satan wants it built.

- Satan has put it in Our minds to do his will.

To day it dosent matter if you believe in God, because you still have to live by Satans system to survive or stay out of trubble With the systems set of laws. We are are being educated, groomed and spiritually formed to drift Satans system from when we are small children. It is not just the social system that grooms us to worship satans system. Each and everone of us are also being preped by Our moms and dads to serve the system as loyal subjects.

How many of you have been told that we cant live without a political system? "Democracy"

I bet non of you are educated to know of a better system than a political system set up of People who must rule over you.

I think "Satan" is actually Yahweh, Allah, or all those other deity's out there that use aliases. Satan is just who Christians use to blame all the world's "ill's" on. The real "god of this world" had it's hand in the Bible, and in owning all of this world.
About a year ago....I had this thought come through my spirit and head (which I know is the HS). It kept saying to me, "WHO is the god of this world"? That thought plagued me constantly. It's what set me on a path of discovery to that answer.
What I concluded was, the "god of this world" is much more than Satan...(which basically just means "the accuser"). What I've realized is that the Abrahamic god was the biggest accuser of mankind there was.

a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

Ha Satan is an emissary of Yahweh.

So anything Satan does has Yahweh's approval.

So they are absolutely one and the same being, Satan is the evil part of Yahweh.

What kind of God is that?

Not the Father of Christ or a God at all but the biggest enemy man has.

The only God I worship is the Holy Spirit.

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

His big secret is he knows redemption is his at the end of the age. Something they never told you about in sunday school.

Yes, the King James Version says: "...as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan." - Revelation 2:24

The "depths" of Satan = deception, evil, conniving, blasphemous, pride, etc. etc. etc. It is simply referring to those who haven't sunken to his level. That is all. No great "secret" about the depths of Satan. 2 Corinthians 2:12 - "Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices."

a reply to: Matrixsurvivor


I think you might be right. Lord God who comes into the Picture in Genesis Chapter 2. Is not the same God mentioned in Genesis Chapter 1.

In Genesis Chapter 1. God never mentiones anything about creating Eden. Or Adam and then Eve from Adams ribs.

Eden was created before Lord God formed his garden eastward in Eden. Even Adam was formed from the dust on the ground before Lord God fomred the garden eastward in Eden. Non of this is mentioned in Genesis Chapter 1. Man was created by God in Genesis Chapter 1 as amale and female. All living Things were created by Earth before man was created, that is stated in genesis Chapter 1. In genesis Chapter 2 Adam was formed before all living Things.

There are also verses in Genesis that might indicate that Lord God never actually formed Adam from the dust on the ground. But rather took Adam (man) from Earth, and took man to a Place called Eden Cherubims. Because Eden Cherubims is the Place which Lord God actually cast them out from. Lord God made coats of skins, and clothed them before they were sent back to Earth.


If you consider how we look at royal bloodlines and such. This might be linked to Adam who were taken by Lord God.

Adam was probably looked upon as a King/God when he returned to Earth With fine clothing, and he was probably educated and knew Things that man on Earth did not know. Because Adam and Eve were cast out because they were now like Lord God and them. And knew of good and evil.....