Where Did Keith Lamont Scott Get His Gun?

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Walk away...I am.

Intrptr is doing what Robert Downey, Jr's, character in "Tropic Thunder" warned never to do, and it's impossible to debate intelligently when someone does that.

a reply to: TorqueyThePig
One carry is legal in NC.

As far as a gun out in public, not as serious as brandishing it at officers directly. Thats a no brainer. What I have trouble wrapping brains around is no apparent threat at the time of the shooting, no brandishing, and no gun visible.

You could point that out to me, if you would, the police videos were discussed right here...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: intrptr

Open carry does not constitute walking around with a gun in your hand (if he in fact did).

If it was proven he had a gun in his hand would you then consider him a potential threat?

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: TorqueyThePig
One carry is legal in NC.

Not for convicted felons...even owning one is illegal.

a reply to: ANNED

No...I am a Homeland Security trained 1st Responder, daily carrier myself, and work for the City-Emergency Management/Police/Fire Search and Rescue.

My Point about the JUDGE...was even her gun was stolen and is now on the streets. That shows how easy it is. If Her Honor could have gotten to it quick enough, it wouldnt be.

I was only stressing the ease of them finding their way into the streets...no matter who has it, or how secure they think theyve made it.

Thank you for replying

MS
EMT/ERT, 1st Responder/ I.C.S-Incident Command
Advanced Life Support
FEMA/Dept. of Homeland Security
Region 2 South, Wayne County Michigan

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Walk away...I am.

Intrptr is doing what Robert Downey, Jr's, character in "Tropic Thunder" warned never to do, and it's impossible to debate intelligently when someone does that.

I know....I should. I often wonder if there are people on this site that actually are paid just to post online wherever and try to stir stuff up. I mean if you look at the number of posts for the amount of time some of the posters here have, it begs to question if this is the ONLY thing they do.

Anywho...I enjoy head to head.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Agreed. I didnt recognize her name in the news, even though she was local to my area...but Im betting she hasnt been a judge long.

And I'd question her ability to make decisions in court if she made the kind of decision as to where to keep her weapon..

Ill bet she feels pretty stupid now...I'd be embarassed to sit up on that bench now if I was her...but anyway...the gun is out there on the streets...got there the same way as a lot of them...

a reply to: TorqueyThePig

Open carry does not constitute walking around with a gun in your hand (if he in fact did).

Thank you... carry on.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: intrptr

You guys are the ones going on he threatened the officers, had a gun, but can't show that anywhere.

Down with forensics, up with accusations.

intrptr out

Forensics is an examination of all relevant data and coming to a conclusion about it.

Fixating on one single element and ignoring all other data is not forensics.

Yah, smoking guns are overrated.

They're nice and all, but not essential. I understand that ATS is rife with people who believe that unless they personally see something, it didn't happen. That's a nice sentiment and all, and makes one the uber-skeptic or whatever, but that's not really an effective way to investigate anything. Literally anything, I mean.

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: intrptr

You guys are the ones going on he threatened the officers, had a gun, but can't show that anywhere.

Down with forensics, up with accusations.

intrptr out

Forensics is an examination of all relevant data and coming to a conclusion about it.

Fixating on one single element and ignoring all other data is not forensics.

Yah, smoking guns are overrated.

They're nice and all, but not essential. I understand that ATS is rife with people who believe that unless they personally see something, it didn't happen. That's a nice sentiment and all, and makes one the uber-skeptic or whatever, but that's not really an effective way to investigate anything. Literally anything, I mean.

Nor is that the way anything in life goes in general.

You'd think some here may believe all police get magic training for sleight of hand or something...

What exactly is the context of the thread question..anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together could figure out in a country with more guns than people..it's not hard to get a stolen gun. This is the cost.
Am I being a dick and missing something here?

a reply to: Shamrock6

Yes, that is the problem with LEO's these days, shoot first ask questions later...

and coming from an LEO,

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Shamrock6

Yes, that is the problem with LEO's these days, shoot first ask questions later...

and coming from an LEO,

Lol that's not what I said, so "coming from a LEO" means dick. Almost pulled that twist off though!

Almost.

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: intrptr

You guys are the ones going on he threatened the officers, had a gun, but can't show that anywhere.

Down with forensics, up with accusations.

intrptr out

Forensics is an examination of all relevant data and coming to a conclusion about it.

Fixating on one single element and ignoring all other data is not forensics.

Yah, smoking guns are overrated.

They're nice and all, but not essential.

At the time officers decide to employ lethal force they better be evident, not invisible. But again I'm discoursing with a cop, who will always take the cops side of things. A man is dead and none of the videos released to date shows a gun in his hand or on the ground after.

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Shamrock6

Yes, that is the problem with LEO's these days, shoot first ask questions later...

and coming from an LEO,

Lol that's not what I said, so "coming from a LEO" means dick. Almost pulled that twist off though!

Almost.

Not in so many words, but you did imply it.

The job does not, once again, have a requirement to wait until an officer is at a disadvantage to take action.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Vasa Croe

You also hear the multiple officers on the scene yelling for him to drop the gun.

What gun?

Since you were there, you tell us.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: TorqueyThePig
One carry is legal in NC.

Unless you're a felon. Scott served 15 months in prison for shooting at police in Texas. Yeah he probably had NO intentions of shooting at these police.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: intrptr

You guys are the ones going on he threatened the officers, had a gun, but can't show that anywhere.

Down with forensics, up with accusations.

intrptr out

Forensics is an examination of all relevant data and coming to a conclusion about it.

Fixating on one single element and ignoring all other data is not forensics.

Yah, smoking guns are overrated.

They're nice and all, but not essential.

At the time officers decide to employ lethal force they better be evident, not invisible. But again I'm discoursing with a cop, who will always take the cops side of things. A man is dead and none of the videos released to date shows a gun in his hand or on the ground after.

Ya man always. Literally always, aside from those instances when I don't.

Get a new shtick. Your jabs are more like pathetic flailing.

There's nothing to take sides over, chief. We're talking about evidence and forensics. That's science. Being law enforcement or civilian has zero bearing.

The most pathetic part of your comment is that you're bitching and moaning about the fact that I like actual evidence more than I like your "if I didn't see it then it didn't happen" method of investigation.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Shamrock6

Yes, that is the problem with LEO's these days, shoot first ask questions later...

and coming from an LEO,

Lol that's not what I said, so "coming from a LEO" means dick. Almost pulled that twist off though!

Almost.

Not in so many words, but you did imply it.

The job does not, once again, have a requirement to wait until an officer is at a disadvantage to take action.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Nope. Good try, again, though.

a reply to: Shamrock6

I like your "if I didn't see it then it didn't happen" method of investigation.

Thank you, considering all we have to go on are the videos that appear to show he has no gun, there is no evidence. Added to the other recent cases like San Diego, (he had a vaping pen), and in Florida, where the guy was shot lying down with his hands in the air?

I'd say right now you guys are batting o for 3. Not good for the civil servant corp. credibility department, is it.