Don't listen to the liberal MSM: Trump crushed Hillary at the debates.

Back in the real world.... Trump was trounced. Poll your polls if they help you sleep at night. The fact remains that he failed miserably.

originally posted by: intrepid
Back in the real world.... Trump was trounced. Poll your polls if they help you sleep at night. The fact remains that he failed miserably.

^One mans opinion here. For everyone who says he failed miserably, I bet you can find others (in the real world as you say there) who say otherwise.

Hillary appeared to shut Trump down momentarily, when she brought up her accomplishments, and how many countries she has traveled to. She neetly layed out in full public view what she has done. She stacked it up, organised it and put it out for all to see.
Then that Snake-Trump sneakily reached over and pulled the table cloth out from under all her good deeds, by saying " Its all BAD experience." That wasnt very gentlemanlike.

a reply to: Bloodydagger

You are seriously missing something if you think these systems aren't easily hacked.

There is no news coverage, because there is NOTHING there HIDDEN to FIND. It's EASILY hacked, as in, there would be NO PROOF, because it's part of it's default-faulty code.

It WOULD NOT be News, as these Company's hold these Polls as little more than WATERCOOLER conversation. They do not care if it's accurate, they are not an election committee, and none of them seriously would even consider their polls being compromised meaning ANYTHING. They do it for publicity and traffic alone.

originally posted by: Bloodydagger

originally posted by: intrepid
Back in the real world.... Trump was trounced. Poll your polls if they help you sleep at night. The fact remains that he failed miserably.

^One mans opinion here. For everyone who says he failed miserably, I bet you can find others (in the real world as you say there) who say otherwise.

You are correct, but how many of those opinions are based on the actual performance of the people on stage, or is skewed by their political partisanship?

Based on their performance, Trump lost badly.

originally posted by: Bloodydagger
a reply to: imjack

And I seriously doubt anyone sit there for hours and hours clicking hundreds of thousands of times in the same poll and then went to the next website and did the same thing. Remember, the debate was over at 10:30 CST. So if someone manually did this, then you may as well call them Flash (the super hero)

See the DailyDot article link I posted a few pages back - then go diving into the world of reddit and 4chan. You'll find that there is compelling evidence from those sites that are providing links to Trump supporters to skew the polls along with instructions and guides as to how to perform the "multi-voting".

The correlation that those posts exist, and that the online polls are so heavily skewed towards Trump despite the debate performance evidence to the contrary strongly suggests that there is a relationship (considering also that the links to the polls indicated in the reddit and 4chan are also what is showing up in the "image" that is being posted). Does it demonstrate causation? No, but circumstantial evidence in this case strongly suggests that this is the case.

Once the other polls come out from non-online sources corroborating the results then I will conceed that point that the popular opinion is that Trump won the first debate in a landslide. But until those results are corroborated, the conjecture put forth and supported by a predominance of circumstances points in the other direction and that indeed, these polls were manipulated and therefore need to be discarded as false.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Bloodydagger

I don't have to listen to any of the media outlets, because I watched the debate. Donald crashed and burned. But it was funny to watch his real (Joe Pesci, My Cousin Vinny) personality come out.

You could also see that Hillary and Donald have a very old friendship and that they've spared over appetizers before! LOL

This was just the first debate.

Hey, don't forget Vinny came out on top at the end.

originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: Bloodydagger

You are seriously missing something if you think these systems aren't easily hacked.

There is no news coverage, because there is NOTHING there HIDDEN to FIND. It's EASILY hacked, as in, there would be NO PROOF, because it's part of it's default-faulty code.

It WOULD NOT be News, as these Company's hold these Polls as little more than WATERCOOLER conversation. They do not care if it's accurate, they are not an election committee, and none of them seriously would even consider their polls being compromised meaning ANYTHING. They do it for publicity and traffic alone.

I'm quite certain that if these websites were hacked, they'd care and we'd know of it by now.

Would you be all happy and peachy and rosy if your website was hacked?

a reply to: kamebard

I already replied to your silly post.

The specific polls cited by the OP are also cited in this article about Reddit and 4chan users manipulating the polls to favor Trump. This is what "rigged" looks like.

4chan and Reddit Manipulate Online Polls to Favor Trump

Donald Trump supporters artificially manipulated the results of online polls to create a false narrative that the Republican nominee won the first presidential debate on Monday night.

The efforts originated from users of the pro-Trump Reddit community r/The_Donald and 4chan messaged boards, which bombarded around 70 polls, including those launched by Time, Fortune, and CNBC.

Sorry OP, but like the others in this thread have been saying... Hillary won big last night.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bloodydagger

originally posted by: intrepid
Back in the real world.... Trump was trounced. Poll your polls if they help you sleep at night. The fact remains that he failed miserably.

^One mans opinion here. For everyone who says he failed miserably, I bet you can find others (in the real world as you say there) who say otherwise.

You are correct, but how many of those opinions are based on the actual performance of the people on stage, or is skewed by their political partisanship?

Based on their performance, Trump lost badly.

And how many people hate Hillary enough to not care how Trump did? Something else to consider ~

originally posted by: Bloodydagger

originally posted by: intrepid
Back in the real world.... Trump was trounced. Poll your polls if they help you sleep at night. The fact remains that he failed miserably.

^One mans opinion here. For everyone who says he failed miserably, I bet you can find others (in the real world as you say there) who say otherwise.

You know what else is in the real world?



If those "others" think Trump won, they should get out of Anaheim.

To be honest Hillary look like she was gonna cry like a little girl..... Trump whipped her good, and he was just pointing his finger at her for being naughty.

originally posted by: SKMDC1
The specific polls cited by the OP are also cited in this article about Reddit and 4chan users manipulating the polls to favor Trump. This is what "rigged" looks like.

4chan and Reddit Manipulate Online Polls to Favor Trump

Donald Trump supporters artificially manipulated the results of online polls to create a false narrative that the Republican nominee won the first presidential debate on Monday night.

The efforts originated from users of the pro-Trump Reddit community r/The_Donald and 4chan messaged boards, which bombarded around 70 polls, including those launched by Time, Fortune, and CNBC.

Sorry OP, but like the others in this thread have been saying... Hillary won big last night.

Oh sure. Lets trust the word of the 4Chan /b/ script kiddies. They are attention whores who crave attention.

a reply to: Bloodydagger

I'm now certain based on the conversation direction you just don't understand computers.

You're confusing 'needing to hack' with 'not needing to hack'.

What part of it's their own default system don't you understand?

Yes it's susceptible, do they care? No. Why? It's a gag.

Facing the truth that most polls are incorrect is just a truth to face.

originally posted by: Bloodydagger

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bloodydagger

originally posted by: intrepid
Back in the real world.... Trump was trounced. Poll your polls if they help you sleep at night. The fact remains that he failed miserably.

^One mans opinion here. For everyone who says he failed miserably, I bet you can find others (in the real world as you say there) who say otherwise.

You are correct, but how many of those opinions are based on the actual performance of the people on stage, or is skewed by their political partisanship?

Based on their performance, Trump lost badly.

And how many people hate Hillary enough to not care how Trump did? Something else to consider ~

True. It's sad that people would hate someone so much that they would deny reality and what actually happened on that stage.

They hate Hillary...therefore Trump wins.

a reply to: ksiezyc

So you don't cote examples you just beg the question.

There was plenty of questions Trump wasn't asked about either.
www.theatlantic.com...

Oh and if the fact check about the stop and frisk is what you are talking about, it was correct. Sorry hw got called out on a bs line.

originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: Bloodydagger

I'm now certain based on the conversation direction you just don't understand computers.

You're confusing 'needing to hack' with 'not needing to hack'.

What part of it's their own default system don't you understand?

Yes it's susceptible, do they care? No. Why? It's a gag.

Facing the truth that most polls are incorrect is just a truth to face.

You're the one who said these websites wont care if they are hacked, not me. If they were hacked, believe me, they'd care and we'd know it by now.

a reply to: DBCowboy

My bet is there isn't anything should could say that would sway you, you have been pretty adamant about your feelings, which I am not saying you shouldn't have, towards Hillary.

originally posted by: Bloodydagger

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bloodydagger

originally posted by: intrepid
Back in the real world.... Trump was trounced. Poll your polls if they help you sleep at night. The fact remains that he failed miserably.

^One mans opinion here. For everyone who says he failed miserably, I bet you can find others (in the real world as you say there) who say otherwise.

You are correct, but how many of those opinions are based on the actual performance of the people on stage, or is skewed by their political partisanship?

Based on their performance, Trump lost badly.

And how many people hate Hillary enough to not care how Trump did? Something else to consider ~

Ding, ding, ding. We have a wiener. That's exactly it. The Hillary hatred is so strong in many that reality no longer matters. Up is down. Cats are dogs.... as long as Hillary loses.