Cheryl Mills, BlackIvy, & BlackStone

a reply to: MotherMayEye

im not trying to derail this thread because I think it has a ton of value.

But she was granted immunity???

Do you know what that means? It means that even if the investigation finds there was wrong doing, she won't be held accountable for it, someone else will - there are tons and tons of private companies that employ people with security clearances.

The government doesn't really develop/build weapons they buy products once they are made, or give a discription of what they want, multiple people bid and then the government commissions the company to build for the military/government.

It's like when the whitehouse/pentagon needs to have a contractor from a private company come in and wire the LAN or do electrical work. That contractor might need a security clearance depending on the work they are doing.

Blah blah. - if she has immunity she has immunity

The US Government needs those companies to keep running.

originally posted by: fatkid
But she was granted immunity???

Do you know what that means?

Yeah, I know what it means. I raised that point in the first comment to this thread.

It means that the FBI is complicit in a cover up. It means the FBI granted 'partial' immunity to a web of people to make it impossible to build a conspiracy case.

It means the Oversight Committee charged with overseeing the FBI on this investigation will be denied the opportunity to question witnesses.

It means that the federal government has gone rogue.

a reply to: MotherMayEye


It really bothers me to think our FBI may be complicit in all this. Remember, though, it is the DOJ that actually grants immunity, but the FBI is the one who probably recommended it. I would love to know if there was any conflict between FBI and DOJ on the immunities.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

You said

"First, remember: Cheryl Mills was allowed, at the request of Hillary Clinton, to keep her SECURITY CLEARANCE after Mills left the State Department to found the BlackIvy Group! Let that sink in.

Cheryl Mills continued to have access to classified information regarding US Dept. of State business while she was setting up this group."

And I'm telling you this is 100% normal, it happens 1000 times a day

5-6 million people in America have security clearances at any given time

www.washingtonpost.com... orway/

originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: MotherMayEye

You said

"First, remember: Cheryl Mills was allowed, at the request of Hillary Clinton, to keep her SECURITY CLEARANCE after Mills left the State Department to found the BlackIvy Group! Let that sink in.

Cheryl Mills continued to have access to classified information regarding US Dept. of State business while she was setting up this group."

And I'm telling you this is 100% normal, it happens 1000 times a day

No. I said none of that. That was Queen of Swords.

But I did respond to you by showing how it is standard to suspend someone's clearance when they are involved in an ongoing investigation. As long as Congress is overseeing the FBI investigation..an investigation is still ongoing. Her clearance should have been suspended when the FBI opened their investigation...before then, truth be told.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I would think the page you're searching for can be found in archived pages.
Great work, though. S&F for you, brother.

a reply to: fatkid

???

So, anyone who has ever had security clearance on this level in government does not lose it when they go into the private sector.?

Are you telling us that a Secretary of State or any other high level government official with top secret classification access can sit there and chit chat over coffee with someone who has left government, but who may have had security clearance at one time, and now has a business involved in international affairs, and discuss State business with that person?

a reply to: queenofswords

I have to assume the FBI was ineffective at disputing it, at best. And that they didn't report any conflicts during oversight questioning. It's at this point that I just wash my hands of the FBI.

If they had any issues about how things were being handled, then Comey expressed nothing but pride in how the investigation was handled.

Everyone is playing along. That's how the truth seems to me.

a reply to: fatkid

Under normal circumstances, Mills would have had her clearance terminated when she left the department. But in January 2014, according to the State Department letter, Clinton designated Mills “to assist in her research.” Mills was the one who reviewed Clinton’s emails before select documents were handed over to the State Department, and others were deleted.

Senior Clinton Aide maintained top secret clearance

a reply to: queenofswords

I'm guessing you have never held a security clearance so you think it is some sort of magic, yes you can leave a agency and keep your clearance, it happens all the time....

Seriously it happens every single day........

You should probably focus on something else, this is not a unique situation.

a reply to: fatkid

Having the clearance in the first place - while working at the agency wouldn't give you the right to "chit chat" over coffee, there is this thing called "need to know"

a reply to: MotherMayEye

You obviously don't understand what immunity means either, and when she left the DOS the investigation hadn't even started yet???????

a reply to: fatkid

I doubt she was granted blanket immunity, though if she was, that only reinforces the point I was hoping to make in this thread and that is that Cheryl D Mills is a key figure in the Clinton machine and that all of her other connections show the level of her importance.

Getting bogged down into the minutiae of security clearances is more than a little off topic, though I do appreciate the clarity you're trying to bring to the thread.

I know that generally, once a clearance is granted than it remains in effect until revoked due to a particular circumstance or circumstances. It is not necessarily surprising to me that Mills would maintain her clearance even in the face of an investigation. If she is called upon to view classified materials as part of the investigation, then she would need to requisite clearance.

That being said, I think it safe to say that Cheryl Mills played a role in how the situation turned out, what exactly that role is remains to be seen but I don't think anyone thinks she was merely a bystander in all of this.

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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I agree with everything you said

checked the Wayback machine for littlesis/Cheryl Mills and found 3 saves.

web.archive.org...://littlesis.org/person/68207/Cheryl_Mills

Apologies for posting the full link (running out the door) and didn't check to see if it's been posted already, nor did I check for validity.

I'll try to follow up tonight after work.

a reply to: fatkid

It was reported that Mills got partial immunity. I understand what that means. I don't know why you are throwing up multiple question marks. I understood QOS comment to mean after the investigation had started, she didn't, she clarified exactly what she meant.

Back to the topic. Geez.

This is a very good thread.
What you have detailed here is the mechanism by which individuals move from "public" service into the semi-private sector. They then use the access, information and political power that they acquired in public positions to build successful private businesses.
Now, normally I would not have a huge issue with this if it followed some specific guidelines and maintained ethical behavior. The problem is these people have no ethics.

If Mills in the capacity of a private business, gained unfair advantage from Hillary Clinton as Sec State (or even from other people still at State after she left) then that is unethical practices.

If that was it then she would be subject to anti-corruption laws or at a minimum a federal corruption investigation.
It however could be much larger than that, because you have to add in the mix of Clinton Global initiative tax free charitable foundation money.
Clinton uses CGI funds to pay Mills for "consulting". Mills takes portions of those earnings and contributes to Hillary for Pres and other campaigns, then you have to ask how much was actually consulting and how much was this simply a way to launder tax free money into political donations?

It disgusts me that just today I had to take an "anti-corruption and influence" workshop and sign a document saying I had completed it because my company is an international government contractor. I would be subject to criminal prosecution if I did these kinds of activities in my job.

Some great research here. It's a goldmine of associations, revolving doors between government and big corporations. Beyond that it is probably illegal, unethical and completely sickening.

When you have paid career criminals in every department working to cover each other's ass the entire system has been corrupted. This is precisely where we are and nothing short of a revolution is going to change the situation.

What role has Cheryl Mills played for the Clintons? When one looks at her past affiliations and how she has served the Clintons one can see that Cheryl Mills is a gatekeeper for the Clintons and part of her role is to help manage the public perception of the Clintons and their scandals.

An example of her gate keeping duties can be found here:

In one instance, her chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, told State Department records specialists she wanted to see all documents requested on the controversial Keystone XL pipeline, and later demanded that some be held back.

In another case, Ms. Mills’s staff negotiated with the records specialists over the release of documents about former President Bill Clinton’s speaking engagements—also holding some back.

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An official dealing with potential document releases described one of them as being “of interest on the 7th Floor”—a reference to the secretary’s office. A colleague replied that the records were set for release but added: “I believe, though, that this is still pending with Cheryl Mills’ office…. The real action, for now, is with Cheryl’s office.” The focus of the request is unclear.

A spokesman for Mrs. Clinton, Nick Merrill, said, “The State Department takes FOIA requests very seriously, and has a rigorous process in place for handling the thousands of requests that come in. Secretary Clinton’s State Department took that process seriously and made it a priority, and to suggest otherwise would be wrong.”

Later, on Tuesday evening, Mr. Merrill added that Ms. Mills—a longtime aide to the Clintons who is on the board of the Clinton Foundation—“did not inappropriately interfere with the FOIA process” and “has spent her career contributing to the greater good.”

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Ms. Mills, this person added, told a records specialist that if he released records she wanted held back, Mrs. Clinton’s office wouldn’t comply with any future document requests on any topic.

Wall Street Journal

I regards to managing the Optics:

Oxygen Media

Business Positions

Oxygen Media
senior vice president (past)

In addition to Cheryl Mills, there have been and still continue to be big names and money involved with Oxygen Media:

The privately held company Oxygen Media was founded in 1998 by former Nickelodeon executive Geraldine Laybourne, talk show host Oprah Winfrey, and producers Marcy Carsey, Tom Werner and Caryn Mandabach (of Carsey-Werner fame). Geraldine Laybourne was the service's founder, chairwoman, and CEO, staying with the channel until the NBCUniversal sale. The company's cable network Oxygen launched on February 2, 2000.

Wikipedia

Pro Hillary bias:

"Women who work on their feet -- nurses, teachers -- strongly prefer Hillary," says Geraldine Laybourne, founder and former chief executive officer of Oxygen Media LLC, now a unit of NBC Universal, who's helping the Clinton campaign. The goal, she says, is to "make visible that women in business support Hillary" in order to build that base.

Wall Street Journal, 2007

Other examples of the revolving door:

Maura Pally
Senior Vice President of Programs

Maura Pally is the senior vice president of programs at the Clinton Foundation. ... Maura joined the Clinton Foundation from Bloomberg Philanthropies ... Previously, she served as acting assistant and deputy assistant secretary of state ... Prior to joining the U.S. Department of State, Maura held several positions in the government and the private sector, including as a special assistant in the Office of White House Counsel under President Clinton and as Manager of Politics and Public Policy at Oxygen Media.

Clinton Foundation

Melissa Prober
Associate General Counsel at Clinton Foundation

Manager of Public Policy
Oxygen Media
2000 – 2002 (2 years)

Special Assistant to the Deputy Counsel / Counsel
The White House
1997 – 2000 (3 years)

LinkedIn

Round and round we go and where it stops, nobody knows.