A hypothetical SHTF scenario...

a reply to: bigpatato

getting beaten up, robbed or killed by the gangs, and mobs and roam the streets.

Its seems like that's what a lot of you red necks want to believe will happen and so you feel you need guns and stuff etc.

I don't really buy that. Your scenario doesn't sound very realistic.

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
Easy being in the UK we do not have many guns so I will sharpen my Crusader sword,Hand and a half sword and my Arming sword put on my Steel armour and just walk outside and woe betide anyone who gets in my way.
If I meet any decent people we will gear up at the Leeds armories and take over a castle

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Oh and get a horse because I have my first lesson next Tuesday

Charge!!!

THEY'LL PEPPER SPRAY YOU AND TAZZ YOU UNTIL YOU SCREAM N PEE

originally posted by: Tuomptonite
I pity big city residents. May they all rest in peace when SHTF. If you're stuck in the rat race at that point, adios amigos.

The folks with a fighting chance are those in sparsely populated, rural areas, with abundant forests and wildlife. People who grew up fishing and hunting and growing their own crops. Resourceful people who are able to take advantage of nature's provisions.

I like my chances in my small, tight knit town, tucked away in the western Sierra Nevadas. Everybody knows everybody and we tend to look after our own. Outsiders beware, as we don't always take kindly to flat landers. Most guys I know collect guns and ammo. A pistol, rifle and shotgun is the basic starter kit but the more the merrier.

As Hank Williams Jr. once sang :

I got a shotgun, a rifle and a 4 wheel drive and a country boy can survive

We can skin a buck, we can run a trot line and a country boy can survive.

We'll we're gonna get newked anyway. We wont' feel a thing. You'll starve to death over many months. a painful way to go.

a reply to: Tuomptonite

Bosephus was very ahead of his time....he was a prepper before it existed...



-Chris

a reply to: speeddr2000

Why does every one in the UK think people dont have guns. How about the 19 charged with a gun fight at some beach bar. UK has guns and a ton of full auto your news just doesnt talk about it. If SHTF you would be surprised at all the guns that come out.

simply because there isnt.
source
there are 1,809,653 licensed firearms in the uk, with a population of around 60 million, so unless there are literally tens of millions of illegal firearms, they aren't readily available.
the last wahhabi attack here involved running a guy over with a car and hacking his head off, even the terrorists can't get hold of guns.

a reply to: bigpatato

First of all. If there was an EMP how the heck would the city be nuked???
Also, how would I get out of the city? I wouldn't. I would accept my fate and probably end it with a bullet to my own head....

a reply to: bigpatato

Not before I have lobbed their head off!.
Pepper spray HA! I put that on me chips!

a reply to: BlueShaman

You think you're safe living out in the country, but that's where all the city riffraff will flock to in a SHTF situation. Hope you have lots of guns.

Don't need lots of guns and ammo. The riff-raff will do home delivery.

I've lived in a city (as long as I could stand it, about a year). I'll admit the slickers can get pretty bad-ass at times, but they don't know the country ways. I figure at best, 5% of those who spread out will make it this far. Those that do will be the best armed. So I'll spend my cash on self-sustainability and take the weaponry off the carcasses. More efficient.

TheRedneck

I live in a RV that does not have a computer controlled engine and can find the parts to get it running after a EMP pulse.
It has a 450 engine that was built before 1970.
Plus i live in a small town in the desert and have three lakes or rivers within 40 miles.

I have a few guns and two long bows for hunting and bows are good for night work as people do not hear them and no muzzle flash.

Okay here's what I'd do. I'd pack light but take what I could, including a tarp, sheet or tent. Then I'd dress in dark or camo. Then I'd wait to late evening to leave. I'd try and make my way either to any near by raven or if there wasn't any just try and use back alleys. I'd plan a route on a map to get out of the city to the near by countryside. That would probably take the first evening. So by morning I'd hope to be at the outskirts of the city. By that time I'd be tired so I'd set up camp where I couldn't be seen like in some patch of forest, and sleep all day. Then again at evening, wake up and continue out into the countryside. Try to navigate my way toward to final destination. Do that by night. By day pitch my tent and sleep. meanwhile long the way look for abandon acreages or farms. Maybe if you found one that you could tell was fully abandon, maybe get in there at night and see if you could forage for anything. That or else if no one returns maybe make that a short term place to live. At least until you could plan out what you're route is from there. If things went really bad there would be tons of abandoned houses, acerages and farms. One could take over one for a bit and use that as a place to live. Maybe gradually make my way to a lake or the coast. There again find an abandon place, or else just build your own. Then just slowly learn to live off the land. That's kinda my plan.

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

Plus just to add as soon as it happens I go to my bug out place I have around 4 months rations there fresh water and other stuff.
I plan to wait out and hide the first month so I will miss the initial death traps like supermarkets, I would hope folk around here will band together but I know it will all go to pot when the food runs out.
So when most are either dead or dying or gone all mad max and all the bullets and shells are used up I will emerge in my Gleaming armour....Mad as a hatter demanding shrubberies.
I just got me some better pauldrons btw 14g steel. Gonna fire a crossbow at them to see it it holds.

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

I'm sorry but 4 months is nothing really. It's not long enough. You could go on just water for 4 months easy. Most people would still be alive and well. If everything was down for like 4 years then maybe by that time things would be a bit more like the Postman". Type of thing. But you'd have to stock a lot more food. Plus you could learn to live off a lot less. That or suppliment what you have by trapping or fishing.

a reply to: bigpatato

what utter bollox :

. You could go on just water for 4 months easy

demonstration of this claim required

a reply to: bigpatato

what utter bollox :

. You could go on just water for 4 months easy

demonstration of this claim required

originally posted by: Quauhtli
...Do the majority of hiking at night, most of the gathering and hunting at sunrise and soon thereafter...

...Stay ahead of the game if you want to avoid being a victim...

Where I live everything that eats meat (you qualify as meat in this scenario) wakes up when the sun goes down. Being out as a hunter-gatherer between dusk and dawn is the best way to put yourself on the menu.

Let's see...

((These things are fun!!))

When the events happen, assuming I don't have to get out of the way, I'll hunker down, leaving as little a footprint as possible.

But eventually, I'm going to have to, probably, move somewhere a bit more livable. With either a horse, unlikely, or my trusty mountain bike, much more likely, and a little trailer sufficient to carry all my camping gear, and other odds and ends for shelter building, I'm off to the coast, probably north into Canada, then swing west to the coast. That's from where I am now, which is on the northern edge of the high desert in the NW United States. A bit dry for my tastes.

It'll take a while, but slow and steady wins the race, they say. Small footprint. I don't care to play tag with those who think it'll be easier to take my stuff. No desire to fight, just avoid. So, small footprints.

Reach the coast, I find myself a stand of cedar and build myself a bit of a wickeup.

Something like this.

With a creek/pond nearby, I build some small unobtrusive fish weres, and plant myself some veggies, and settle down and read books.

I can make my own candles. A bit of glass, and you've yourself a stormlamp for even more brightness.

In choosing my bolthole, I'd probably be within a couple days travel of small towns that I can, if careful, scavenge things that I may need and can't make... Nails. Vegetable seeds. Other assorted odds and ends, bits and bobs.

...and I hunker down, and live rather comfortably. I've no desire to rebuild society. If it's come crashing down that thoroughly, there's really nothing worth saving, is there?

Next year, after I've moved to Tennessee and/or regions around? Since I'll have my own bit of property up in the high lonesome...I'll already be out of the way, and have friends in the area with whom I can cooperate should it be necessary. As I'm, by my nature, a bit of a loner, that's not strictly a necessity...but it's always nice to have someone to turn to.

I've a bit of knowledge in my head. Tools enough to build on the knowledge, books, etc... ...and I've got tools to build with that knowledge. All I need is a place safe to do so...and that'll be easy enough to do in this brave new world of ours.

It's impossible for me to lie and say I wouldn't find it quite interesting.

a reply to: bigpatato

Alive? Possibly. Well? Not even remotely.

Certainly not for four months...you'd have any number of health issues to deal with.

a reply to: TheRedneck

yep.

Most of those city dwellers aren't going to have a clue about the area they're flocking to. TheRedneck would be hunkered down in his trees, and well, the story kinda writes itself.

Long bows. Crossbows. ...and, of course, the arrows to go with 'em are easily enough made, and have brought home the groceries for longer than guns have been around...and protected the groceries, too. ...and, as you say, they do home delivery of guns, if they're stupid enough to try.

My family is all dead? I do nothing. Sit in my apartment and wait for the inevitable. Spent my whole life searching for them, and they are gone.

Now, if my family is with me... Whole diferent story...

a reply to: jjsr420

In these scenarios my family is always there.

Not sure what i'd do if they weren't around...a loner sort I may be, but family is important.

Nope, not at all sure what I'd do...